Comments on: Breaking Bread and Shedding Blood: The Truth About Thanksgiving

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:11:22 +0000

as a matter of fact. one of my favorite complaint’s is welfare. or public assistance.did some ranting about it in the penny saver.
well some crazy’s daughter just happened to be getting it. well he some how managed to track me down by phone. called my wife some choice word’s. and had a few kind word’s for me. since I retrieved his phone number I was able to determine who and where the caller was. that ended his calling quick. maryland is still lagging behind.trying to find solutions to welfare. I suggest get a job and keep it. by all right’s I’am 100% percent disability ( congestive heart failure ) I work every day. my brother is on the heart transplant list. he work’s every day. and we thank those employers who allow us the right too work. so we do not have to ask for assistance. sem -per fi.

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:07:32 +0000

true so true. but what makes the dagger’ unique.is you don’t have to wait two week’s to get trounced.it takes a week to print. then a week’ to get a reply useing the tried& true method of the press.

By: Dell

Dell — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:01:07 +0000

vet,
at least we can discuss something on this forum other than the you-know-what that you-know-who is doing down there in you-know-where. It’s refreshing.

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:34:40 +0000

dell I will stand corrected’ I do recall reading and article.the pilot’s were vietnam vet’s & mercenary’s. the incident was black hawk down. I also agree’ another tragedy.

By: Dell

Dell — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:26:38 +0000

I think if you check the records you’ll find that those pilots were Regular Army, members of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR). The ground element was comprised of Army Rangers (10th Mountain Division) and Delta Force(1st SFOD-D). Two Delta snipers, Shughart and Gordon, were posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. No contractors.
A Bill Clinton botch job from the get go…travesty.

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:39:20 +0000

dell the pilot’s,were mercenary’s…. better known as contractors. a cleaner term. & more often used since the 90’s.
human just the same. and it set’s a stage,as to where insanity begin’s.
with no end in sight.
cry ‘havoc’ and let slip the dog’s of war.

By: Dell

Dell — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:24:54 +0000

The 90’s equivalent was the spectacle of seeing our soldier’s bodies dragged through the streets of Mogadishu, Somalia.
With the advent of the 24 hour news cycle, those that would do us harm are coming up with new and more gruesome ways to exploit the media for their gains. How about the internet postings of beheadings by Islamic extremists? All efforts to shock the country’s collective conscience and weaken our resolve.
History repeats…

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:38:14 +0000

very well said mac.it only take’s and incident or atrocity to turn well trained troop’s in to psycho’s. 1st battalion 9 th marines.were takeing head’s as trophy’s.
need less to say’ the (NVA) north vietnamese army did’nt take too kindly to that fact.and ambushed the unit. nearly slaughtering, the intire company.bayoneting the wounded.there fore carrying the name for ever more as the walking dead.booby trap’s were used on both side’s.grenade’s were booby trapped by unscrewing the spoon.and scrapeing off the delay.that was done by removeing the blasting cap.scrapeing the powder off of the fuse. reasemble mark and x under the spoon. drop it just off of a trail.just so it can still be seen.along comes charlie.attempt’s to use said grenade,BOOM sorry charlie we removed the delay.defective rifles were a common C.I. A. trick they blew up in there face. and the list goes on . the officers as a rule did not condone such behavior.but then officer’s ( grunt ) seldom lasted more than 3 month’s.they were being killed off so fast.they only had to do 3 month’s, in the field. compared to our. inlisted men ’s tour of 12 month’s & 20 day’s.which left us with in experienced officers.
sem-per fi

By: Mac

Mac — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:48:14 +0000

Being of a military background, I am a geek for the study of warfare, both ancient and modern. I believe one can learn an awful lot from the people who have gone on before them. Anyway….

The taking of heads from your enemy has been around since the dawn of conflict. Scalping came about because logically it is easier to carry the scalp of your enemy than his entire head. Especially if you have a lot of enemies!

Personally, I believe scalping /beheading was done for it’s profound physiological effect on both the victor and victim (or their people). As civilizations become civilized though it is looked upon as barbaric. It is still practiced throughout the world and even broadcasted in the Internet a time or two. I must say, it had a very profound effect then.

But warfare is barbaric by nature and as long as we have two people who have a difference of opinion we will always have conflict. Conflict, more often than not, results in warfare (sadly).

By: vietnam vet

vietnam vet — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:05:59 +0000

no less than takeing’ ears in vietnam. more commonly’ done when and enemy soldier or soldiers were killed in ambush etc. of which it would be difficult to carry said body. back to the L Z or command post.it was not a practice well accepted in some circle’s. after all civilian ears’would suffice as well. there was a big stink in 1969on operation meade river.
when the korean marines’ started butchering prisoners.
these guy’s are bad to the bone.it was first believed our unit,
was responsible.but we were cleared of all charges. ear’s fingers,scalp’s etc includeing head’s.were typical trophy’s.not uncommon to see a skull on a pole being carryed as a staff. skull was highly polished with tooth paste until it turned a bright white. there’s ugly’ in every war. semper -fi.