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		<title>By: BPB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BPB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collin- Explain to me Law Enforcement’s refusal to deal with the problem?? Is there not an Edgewood Substation right off of 40 right where all of this shit happens at? There are multiple patrol units as well as specialty gang units that spend most of their time in the high crime areas of Edgewood. The police cant predict crime. The chances of a patrol unit driving down the road and running right into a random act of violence are slim. So if the people that live there and the landlords aren’t the problem then who is the cause of the crime?.

The crime is caused by the people in that area, and it is supported by a large group of people in that area who dont trust or want the police around. The people that dont support crime never speak out and obviously dont call the police to deal with it, even when they hear gunshots. The police cant respond to a crime if they dont know it’s happening. Police have rules too. They cant just run around Edgewood and grab people up in hopes of preventing a crime, Reasonable Suspicion and Probable Cause, Look those definitions up.

You are quick to blame the police but accept no responsiblity as an Edgewood resident, and you also offer no solutions. Tell me what exactly you want the police to do to improve the patrol tactics in that area. Keep in mind that the Sheriff’s Office has little support or cooperation from residents or Landlords in that area. Remember “Dont Snitch” either, thats a community state of mind now, not just a drug dealer guideline. Its certainly not the Police’s fault that people in this area commit crimes, thats just an asinine observation on your part. Really , learn to identify gun shots. c&#039;mon? Are you and JM the same person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collin- Explain to me Law Enforcement’s refusal to deal with the problem?? Is there not an Edgewood Substation right off of 40 right where all of this shit happens at? There are multiple patrol units as well as specialty gang units that spend most of their time in the high crime areas of Edgewood. The police cant predict crime. The chances of a patrol unit driving down the road and running right into a random act of violence are slim. So if the people that live there and the landlords aren’t the problem then who is the cause of the crime?.</p>
<p>The crime is caused by the people in that area, and it is supported by a large group of people in that area who dont trust or want the police around. The people that dont support crime never speak out and obviously dont call the police to deal with it, even when they hear gunshots. The police cant respond to a crime if they dont know it’s happening. Police have rules too. They cant just run around Edgewood and grab people up in hopes of preventing a crime, Reasonable Suspicion and Probable Cause, Look those definitions up.</p>
<p>You are quick to blame the police but accept no responsiblity as an Edgewood resident, and you also offer no solutions. Tell me what exactly you want the police to do to improve the patrol tactics in that area. Keep in mind that the Sheriff’s Office has little support or cooperation from residents or Landlords in that area. Remember “Dont Snitch” either, thats a community state of mind now, not just a drug dealer guideline. Its certainly not the Police’s fault that people in this area commit crimes, thats just an asinine observation on your part. Really , learn to identify gun shots. c&#8217;mon? Are you and JM the same person?</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin,

Do you really want a police chief who is a political appointee (who do think &quot;hires&quot; police chiefs?) rather than a sheriff who is elected by the citizens of Harford County?  

In any case, we can&#039;t have an officer sit on every street corner in the county 24/7/365.  When there is a problem, people need to call.  When we&#039;re not on calls, most deputies are driving through neighborhoods, stopping suspicious people and known gang members/criminals, investigating cases, stopping cars (and recovering CDS, guns, arresting DUI&#039;s,  finding driver&#039;s with suspended licenses or no licenses, etc), handling motor vehicle crashes, and then catching up on paperwork from those law enforcement actions.

This particular incident happened between 11 pm and midnight.  During that time is shift change so evening is still in the area and midnight shift is coming on so there are plenty of officers in Edgewood available to respond to a shooting...but someone needs to pick up the damn phone and call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin,</p>
<p>Do you really want a police chief who is a political appointee (who do think &#8220;hires&#8221; police chiefs?) rather than a sheriff who is elected by the citizens of Harford County?  </p>
<p>In any case, we can&#8217;t have an officer sit on every street corner in the county 24/7/365.  When there is a problem, people need to call.  When we&#8217;re not on calls, most deputies are driving through neighborhoods, stopping suspicious people and known gang members/criminals, investigating cases, stopping cars (and recovering CDS, guns, arresting DUI&#8217;s,  finding driver&#8217;s with suspended licenses or no licenses, etc), handling motor vehicle crashes, and then catching up on paperwork from those law enforcement actions.</p>
<p>This particular incident happened between 11 pm and midnight.  During that time is shift change so evening is still in the area and midnight shift is coming on so there are plenty of officers in Edgewood available to respond to a shooting&#8230;but someone needs to pick up the damn phone and call.</p>
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		<title>By: sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really try to be nice on here but Colin you are a very ignorant person. Do you really expect police to be in that neighborhood every second of the day?The police rely on residents to help them when they are patroling elsewhere. I don&#039;t know of any officer that minds checking out a siuation even if it was firecrackers. Those residents need to be calling in these things or else they have no right to complain. There isn&#039;t enough officers on shift to sit around in each neighborhood. I encourage you to ride along with an officer one day and see what they do. It&#039;s not an easy job, especially in edgewood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really try to be nice on here but Colin you are a very ignorant person. Do you really expect police to be in that neighborhood every second of the day?The police rely on residents to help them when they are patroling elsewhere. I don&#8217;t know of any officer that minds checking out a siuation even if it was firecrackers. Those residents need to be calling in these things or else they have no right to complain. There isn&#8217;t enough officers on shift to sit around in each neighborhood. I encourage you to ride along with an officer one day and see what they do. It&#8217;s not an easy job, especially in edgewood.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their job, that&#039;s what I want!  No more excuses!  If you do not perform in the private sector you are removed, someone is found to do the job!  It&#039;s not wrong to place blame at the feet of the Sheriff&#039;s office!  It is not wrong to demand that the police keep us safe!  I do not feel that I need to provide solutions, I expect the professionals to do that.  Maybe that is the issue, maybe electing someone every for years is not the most professional way to handle law enforcement.  Why not hire a police chief, who is held accountable everyday not every four years!  My mother thought she heard firecrackers!  She should not have to learn to identify gun shots, but she does now!  Thank you Harford County law enforcment, Job Well Done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their job, that&#8217;s what I want!  No more excuses!  If you do not perform in the private sector you are removed, someone is found to do the job!  It&#8217;s not wrong to place blame at the feet of the Sheriff&#8217;s office!  It is not wrong to demand that the police keep us safe!  I do not feel that I need to provide solutions, I expect the professionals to do that.  Maybe that is the issue, maybe electing someone every for years is not the most professional way to handle law enforcement.  Why not hire a police chief, who is held accountable everyday not every four years!  My mother thought she heard firecrackers!  She should not have to learn to identify gun shots, but she does now!  Thank you Harford County law enforcment, Job Well Done!</p>
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		<title>By: native, not naive</title>
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		<dc:creator>native, not naive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, any suspects yet? Probably not, since the ones who were awake and heard the shots didn&#039;t bother to call 911. The body was likely cold and maybe even rigored by the time detectives got there. There&#039;s a firehouse right up the street, and a police station not too far either. I don&#039;t know what kind of wound the victim had, but help could have been on scene in less than 5 minutes. Somebody has lost a loved one, a community has lost it&#039;s heart and soul, and a killer walks amongst all. It&#039;s really hard to believe that I grew up there, now I live 9 miles away, in a town that has seen 1 murder in almost 30 years. I am truly heartbroken for my friends and their loved ones that are still trying to raise their families there.

  Our county as a whole has contributed greatly to the Edgewood area. Perhaps it is time for more than a handful of Edgewood residents to contribute to Edgewood. 

Dear Edgewood Residents,
  It is time to take some responsibility. Pony up. Incorporate. It will be a long hard process, much like growing pains. What would you prefer; growing pains or dying pains? You already know what dying pains are, can you handle it much longer? Are you okay just sitting there while your community turns into an American war zone? It doesn&#039;t have to be this way, but the rest of the county can&#039;t do every thing for you, as you can already see. Edgewood is right on the line of the point of no return. As I see it, you have two choices; shrivel up and die the rest of the way, or rise up and meet the challenge.
 
P.S. The challenge involves both work and money; pony up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, any suspects yet? Probably not, since the ones who were awake and heard the shots didn&#8217;t bother to call 911. The body was likely cold and maybe even rigored by the time detectives got there. There&#8217;s a firehouse right up the street, and a police station not too far either. I don&#8217;t know what kind of wound the victim had, but help could have been on scene in less than 5 minutes. Somebody has lost a loved one, a community has lost it&#8217;s heart and soul, and a killer walks amongst all. It&#8217;s really hard to believe that I grew up there, now I live 9 miles away, in a town that has seen 1 murder in almost 30 years. I am truly heartbroken for my friends and their loved ones that are still trying to raise their families there.</p>
<p>  Our county as a whole has contributed greatly to the Edgewood area. Perhaps it is time for more than a handful of Edgewood residents to contribute to Edgewood. </p>
<p>Dear Edgewood Residents,<br />
  It is time to take some responsibility. Pony up. Incorporate. It will be a long hard process, much like growing pains. What would you prefer; growing pains or dying pains? You already know what dying pains are, can you handle it much longer? Are you okay just sitting there while your community turns into an American war zone? It doesn&#8217;t have to be this way, but the rest of the county can&#8217;t do every thing for you, as you can already see. Edgewood is right on the line of the point of no return. As I see it, you have two choices; shrivel up and die the rest of the way, or rise up and meet the challenge.</p>
<p>P.S. The challenge involves both work and money; pony up.</p>
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		<title>By: BPB</title>
		<link>http://www.daggerpress.com/2009/11/27/police-investigate-thanksgiving-homicide-in-edgewood/#comment-31229</link>
		<dc:creator>BPB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from not capitalizing because I&#039;m in too much of a rush, I found no grammatical errors at all in that paragraph.

So you are saying that I should be empathetic to the drug dealers that are not able to overcome their hardships such as you have?? What the hell does that have to do with ethics? Maybe you and your family need a little lesson on ethics, let me educate you. 

Good ethics would be doing the RIGHT thing, even when no one is looking, and when it would be easy to do the WRONG thing. Example: The right thing to do when you hear gunshots outside of your house at night is to call the police, even though you might be afraid. The WRONG thing is to convince yourself that it&#039;s just firecrackers because you are too afraid to call, when you know deep down that it&#039;s gunfire, and you know deep down you should do something. That is why your family feels regret, because they know they could have done something and they didn&#039;t.

Maybe next time the &quot;black&quot; drug dealers will accidentally injure a &quot;white&quot; homeowner, since as you say, that&#039;s all that live there, or even worse, a child. Maybe those bullets will miss their target and go right through your kitchen. Will you call 911 then? Or will you convince yourself it&#039;s a ricochet from the firecrackers?  I don&#039;t have to feel sorry for you or empathize with anyone to the right thing. The gang member on the street bleeding from a gunshot wound gets the same care that the poor old lady who fell down the steps does. That&#039;s ethics. You do the RIGHT thing because it&#039;s RIGHT, it doesn&#039;t matter what the age sex, sex, race, gang color, or social status is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from not capitalizing because I&#8217;m in too much of a rush, I found no grammatical errors at all in that paragraph.</p>
<p>So you are saying that I should be empathetic to the drug dealers that are not able to overcome their hardships such as you have?? What the hell does that have to do with ethics? Maybe you and your family need a little lesson on ethics, let me educate you. </p>
<p>Good ethics would be doing the RIGHT thing, even when no one is looking, and when it would be easy to do the WRONG thing. Example: The right thing to do when you hear gunshots outside of your house at night is to call the police, even though you might be afraid. The WRONG thing is to convince yourself that it&#8217;s just firecrackers because you are too afraid to call, when you know deep down that it&#8217;s gunfire, and you know deep down you should do something. That is why your family feels regret, because they know they could have done something and they didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Maybe next time the &#8220;black&#8221; drug dealers will accidentally injure a &#8220;white&#8221; homeowner, since as you say, that&#8217;s all that live there, or even worse, a child. Maybe those bullets will miss their target and go right through your kitchen. Will you call 911 then? Or will you convince yourself it&#8217;s a ricochet from the firecrackers?  I don&#8217;t have to feel sorry for you or empathize with anyone to the right thing. The gang member on the street bleeding from a gunshot wound gets the same care that the poor old lady who fell down the steps does. That&#8217;s ethics. You do the RIGHT thing because it&#8217;s RIGHT, it doesn&#8217;t matter what the age sex, sex, race, gang color, or social status is.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused...are you saying that there are only black drug dealers and gang members in Edgewood?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused&#8230;are you saying that there are only black drug dealers and gang members in Edgewood?</p>
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		<title>By: J.M.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I really dont think the majority of the people are afraid to speak, i think they just dont care. These are their friends and relatives that are dealing drugs and creating violence. This is just a way of life for them, and i think a good bit of them enjoy it. most are proud to be hustlers, gang members and drug dealers.&quot;

Loyola may not include a course in &quot;common sense&quot;, but at least they taught us proper grammar. This quote also clarifies the reason why I included the fact about race. You may not have come out and said it, but people can make clear associations with whom you are talking about. Not being able to understand other people&#039;s circumstances is what causes the ignorance and lack of empathy that would help change the world. It&#039;s okay though, I&#039;m sure at UMD they don&#039;t teach a thing called ethics. 

I don&#039;t associate myself with any political view so that is completely irrelevant. Yet another problem with this country that draws people apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I really dont think the majority of the people are afraid to speak, i think they just dont care. These are their friends and relatives that are dealing drugs and creating violence. This is just a way of life for them, and i think a good bit of them enjoy it. most are proud to be hustlers, gang members and drug dealers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Loyola may not include a course in &#8220;common sense&#8221;, but at least they taught us proper grammar. This quote also clarifies the reason why I included the fact about race. You may not have come out and said it, but people can make clear associations with whom you are talking about. Not being able to understand other people&#8217;s circumstances is what causes the ignorance and lack of empathy that would help change the world. It&#8217;s okay though, I&#8217;m sure at UMD they don&#8217;t teach a thing called ethics. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t associate myself with any political view so that is completely irrelevant. Yet another problem with this country that draws people apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavel314</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavel314</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edgewood tried incorporating about ten years ago and, had the instigators not gotten too greedy, might have succeeded. The problem was that they tried to incorporate too much non-Edgewood land to build their tax and population base. Had they stopped at the railroad tracks just beyond Route 40 as their northern border, it might have worked, but when they tried to absorb the area along Route 7 and beyond I-95, the residents in that area mounted a fierce oposition and stopped them. They were aided by a lot of Edgewood residents who realized that in an independent Edgewood, the Section Eight group would be proportionally larger so the polititians would cater to them, eventually turning the whole place into a Section Eight city to get more federal grant and aid money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edgewood tried incorporating about ten years ago and, had the instigators not gotten too greedy, might have succeeded. The problem was that they tried to incorporate too much non-Edgewood land to build their tax and population base. Had they stopped at the railroad tracks just beyond Route 40 as their northern border, it might have worked, but when they tried to absorb the area along Route 7 and beyond I-95, the residents in that area mounted a fierce oposition and stopped them. They were aided by a lot of Edgewood residents who realized that in an independent Edgewood, the Section Eight group would be proportionally larger so the polititians would cater to them, eventually turning the whole place into a Section Eight city to get more federal grant and aid money.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does that have to do with anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does that have to do with anything?</p>
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