The 2014 race for Harford County Sheriff is off to an early start, and with more than two and a half years until Election Night, it could be a rematch.
Sheriff Jesse Bane, who won a close race in November 2010 over Republican challenger Jeff Gahler, said Friday that he plans to run again. Gahler himself stopped short of a formal announcement of his candidacy, but gave strong indication that he planned to face off against Bane once more.
In a wide-ranging interview, Bane said recent verbal sparring between the two men over statistics concerning the number of deputies available to protect public safety was the first, early skirmish between the likely electoral opponents.
“Mr. Gahler is going to run for sheriff. He’s already said he’s running for sheriff and they’re already having their campaign meetings,” Bane said. “This [Gahler’s first letter to the editor about the statistics] is one of the volleys that has been put out to discredit the sheriff of Harford County. Between in now and the election in 2014—-my God, I’m in the second year of my term, and I’m already having to worry about a guy out there campaigning against me, doing whatever he’s going to do. You will see more things [trying to] discredit the sheriff of Harford County as time goes on.”
Gahler said he planned to retire from the Maryland State Police after 28 years of service in the coming months.
“Although any formal announcement is still premature, I have made no secret of the fact that I would run for the Office of Sheriff in 2014 if the administration currently in place failed to put the needs of the County first and foremost,” Gahler said in an e-mail to The Dagger Sunday night. “Since election day in 2010 through today, there is little doubt that is the case.”
In the 2010 primary election, Gahler emerged from a field of Republican challengers which included Steven Bodway, Jack Meckley, and Roger Sheets. Bane claimed a close victory over Gahler on Election Night, claiming 51.6 percent of the vote to Gahler’s 48.2 percent.
Bane is running for County Executive and will lose.
Jeff Gahler will be our Sheriff in 2014! Should be our sheriff now!
Harco, where did you get the idea that Bane was running for county executive. Are you for real?
100% for real!
Harco, you are letting your imagination run away.
Think again, Jesse wants that job.
I heard that rumor to. I think he realizes he is not smart enough to do that job.
I like Ralph. Ralph would be a good sheriff. Ralph should be sheriff right now or at least dog catcher, is that job open now?
Is this election ever going to stop? I cannot believe that Gahler is running already. I guess he is worried that he won’t have a job when he retires.
Monster,
Yes, it does seem very early. Hell, Jesse Bane is already running for another term and he is the Sheriff!! The article above states that Bane has announced for another term and Gahler didn’t rule out another try. Bane retired from the HCSO as a Deputy, and immediately entered the race for Sheriff. Do you think he was worried about not getting another job?
I think the only reason Bane is announcing about running again this early is because of all this political bullshit that Bodway, Gahler, Marc Eaton, and all the other anonymous people spouting off decided to stir up 2.5 years before the next election.
While I think they have some valid points, I hope we’re not going to go through 2+ years of increasingly nasty political garbage. It got nasty enough during the last election and that really only went on for a couple months. It just amazes anyone would actually want the job (or any political office for that matter.)
George,
I concur, no need for political garbage. Sometimes the truth smells just like garbage. Having read many of the postings, I believe Mr. Bane could have spared himself this call to action by simply doing the right thing and not overruling the results of his own written policy on the promotions process.
Sheriff Bane can be a much better man than he has been with regard to the treatment of his employees. And he should waste no time in getting started.
George,
Go to work for Jesse and you will learn that he is neither a leader, manager, or supporter of his men and women. He has no decision-making skills and his office is known as the “Black Hole”. He has continuously misled the public as to his qualifications. His vindictiveness is legendary. He advocates the “Hug-a-thug” mentality. His track record for wasting your tax dollars and mismanagement of his office is public record. If find it appalling that you and other unknowing persons come to his defense.
I’m not defending him, just pointing out why I think he’s declaring that he’s running for re-election more than 2.5 years before the actual election.
Unlike most of the people posting on here I don’t have a blind dislike for Bane, nor do I blindly support him. Based on what some people are saying on here you’d think he either had a halo and wings or stalks through the corridors of 45 S. Main St with horns, a spiked tail, and carrying a pitchfork. Neither image is particularly accurate.
Pitchfork, horns and spiked tail is probably an accurate description if you ask the two Sergeants who placed first and second on the Lieutenants promotion list, and were passed over by Sheriff Bane as political retribution for their support of another in the past election.
George, it is not bullshit when it cane be backed up with facts. I am not supporting anyone for Sheriff in 2.5 years. This is not about an election, it is about a vindictive mean little man who thinks he is above the law.
Bane was replying to Gahler’s attack on his statistics. Maybe Gahler ought to take a statistics course and spend some time studying the Sheriff’s duties before campaigning again. As far as Bane is concerned, he retired as a high ranking deputy who knew the duties and the constituency. A career MSP does not have a clue the differences between state and local agencies. Care to debate this?
Time will tell if someone from the MSP understands how local policing is administered, and that decision will be left up to the voters should Mr. Gahler be a candidate again for Sheriff.
I would agree that Mr. Gahler probably didn’t understand the internal politics of the HCSO was well as he should have the last time around, and hopefully that has improved. Sadly, internal and local politics has more to do with getting elected Sheriff than does knowledge of effective policing methods and fair and equitable treatment of the agency employees.
You just said the voters will decide. They did.
As they do each and every four years. What does that have to do with the way Sheriff Bane treats his employees?
Monsta – reading your posts and it really seems like you have either little integrity, a general lack of intelligence, or maybe a combination of the two. You are either one of Mildred’s Bane supporters from the hood, a really dumb blinded by the light union deputy, or possibly a misguided family of someone employed by Bane. Do us all a favor and go away…..
YGI, my name is Monster not monsta- you are obviously an uneducated street punk. Are you angry at Bane for something you did on the streets?
Monster sounds like Jesse. Let’s ask a question.
Jesse, Can you provide any examples where you have demonstrated one or more of the 10 principles of leadership?
Monster, remember Sheriff Ted Moyer? Retired Trooper ran the department for many years. Sheriff Joe Meadows? An assistant States Attorney no police background rand the department. Being an outsider is not a bad thing and it doesn’t mean you can not be Sheriff.
WAY too many articles in a row.
I do not blindly follow the police or any public official. I’m happy to have a professional and courteous neighbors keeping our county safe. I’ve met Mr. Bane and while I do not know about the minutia inner workings of the HCSO I’ve found him to be a very charismatic and pleasant person and I can say the same for every HCSO officer I have ever seen or encountered.
The Sheriff was ELECTED and his opponent LOST less than 16 months ago. I believe that we live in one of the lowest crime areas in the Mid Atlantic . The approach from oppositon is exhausting distraction and is making itself a public nuisance to the police service that I pay for. The endless stream of complaints is a feels like a childish rant, and by now, discredits any foregone legitimacy that your concerns may have once had. The disregard for electoral results and refusal to let someone do their job is a display of the ugly side of law enforcement. Arrogance and entitlement is not part of your oath. Your behavior tarnishes the efforts of the many who work very hard for respect. If you worked in the private sector a CEO would best serve all the employees of the company by treating you as a poison to moral and dissecting the rot.
@Voter,
The start of your letter appears to be against Mr. Gahler concerning the past election. Since the current sheriff is already running again and has hosted at least one fundraiser, 5 months ago no less, how long do you think Gahler should wait to get started? If he lets the sheriff campaign unopposed until the day before the election is that okay with you because being an independent advocate for “active voter” (play on your name, like it?) interest, we all know you must be a voice of reason (and that is called sarcasm). So yes, I trust the person who met one of the candidates once and has admittedly no idea of the working of the office sought, but will throw his (uninformed) vote out there anyway (more sarcasm). You are the prime example of what is wrong with this Country and one I hope is to embarrassed by his own comments to repost with this username.
That said, the main points of your letter, “Arrogance and entitlement is not part of your oath” and “Your behavior tarnishes the efforts of the many who work very hard for respect” are certainly what Jesse embodies and what he is guilty of. It is likely the reason these stories have so much of a following.
@ ONPOINT
Mr. Gahler is of course able to have his own fund raisers at any point. Does your definition of “get started” mean: condone public insubordination, petty bickering and mud slinging? That does’t always have the desired effect and often makes the opponent look unstable. Like it or not, this is what most of the “uninformed” know of Mr. Gahler from the recent “advocacy” attempts. Sour grapes. If he wants to protect and SERVE Harford County citizens I would appreciate hearing his positive input more than how a crony got passed over. If the best he has is this and what numbers Mr. Bane uses during a public outreach meeting, Gahler 2014 sounds like more wasted money for supporters.
I think that the reason that these stories have “so much of a following” is because of a very few individuals that post under multiple pseudonyms (perhaps in addition to their real name.) Your goonish thug-like suggestion that I be embarrassed to re-post seems to speak more to the arrogance and entitlement than I ever could. Thanks. The name “Active Voter” simple conveys that I get to the polls EVERY TIME. The only embarrassment I have is that I may have paid to train you as an officer. Your supposition a sad testament to your investigative prowess.
Active Voter,
Please point the post or article comment where Mr. Gahler addressed the issue of passing over someone for promotion. I have not read Mr. Gahler’s thoughts on that subject, but would welcome them should he choose to address that issue.
Mr. Welsh,
Respectfully, I read carefully over my post and I don’t believe that is said that it is my knowledge that Mr. Gahler directly commented on promotions. With so many posts from Gahler supporters concerned with this issue and no refutation from Gahler himself, it does plant the concept …much like my post did.
Mr. Gahler is running for a political office and for better or worse, he is painted by the brush of his supporters unless he distinguishes himself from that of his fanatical base here on the Dagger. The good news for him (and it seems maybe you) is that it’s early and he has time to make adjustments that will leave this forgotten by many voters in 2014.
My point is simply that the direction I’ve seen him associated with in the last few days is not that of a winner. I wish Mr. Gahler luck in a dignified campaign. For the next 2.5 years, I’ll repeat my earlier thought -If HCSO were in the private sector the CEO would best serve all the employees of the company by dissecting the rot that is a poison to moral.
Active Voter,
I have posted on the Dagger many times, and I am not currently supporting Mr. Gahler, nor did I in the past. I do listen to what Mr. Gahler has to say, as I would any of the people making comments, including you. However, I do not consider what Sheriff Bane is doing, with regard to his political retributions to people in the HCSO as being acceptable behavior. In fact, I detest that kind of thing, as do many of my friends.
Apparently you see many of the negative posters as being pro Gahler people. I don’t see it that way. My take is, many of these people (probably current Deputies) are outraged with Sheriff Bane and his actions with the promotion process. These Deputies realize that this same thing could happen to them, they know it’s not right, and they resent it. If you think that this discontent is only among a few individuals, you could not be more wrong, it is widespread, and rightly so.
I must agree with most of what you have stated. As another dedicated voter who never fails to go to the polls I have to think that most of Harford County will make a decision about Sheriff Bane based on experiences with his department over the time period before the election.
My experiences with the Harford County Sheriffs have been very positive, particularly in light of the unfortunate incidents that necessitated them. I have been treated in a respectful manner, offered resources to assist me, and cautioned with restraint and tact about not putting myself in similar situations in the future. Also, response times were fast.
The many posters on the Dagger than seem to have such strong dislike for Sheriff Bane have every right to their opinions, but I read subtext in may posts that tell me they preferred the old way of doing things and could not adapt to a more inclusive and community oriented approach in Harford County. One poster in particular registered his outrage when, as a member of the department, he presented to a call in Edgewood and was outraged to be informed that the community stated to him that the sheriff had told them reports would be taken when they called. Why the outrage?
Billyjack, good questions and I’ll take a stab at some of your points:
1) The “Old” Way: what is meant by this is respectful treatment of victims, law enforcement towards violators, respect for employees. That is what is lacking. The current sheriff views gang members and their ilk as victims, not as criminals. He and his staff are quick to squash any suggestions of crime suppression initiatives, modernization suggestions or moving forward. Past sheriffs updated radio systems (bane has changed them 3 times, half-azz’d each time with issues) computer systems (again, dormant under bane or half-azz’d and cost you the taxpayer more money.)
2) “Community Policing:” the issue the folks here spoke of is promising someone reports when one may not have been warranted. Not every call requires a written report, and promising someone a report ties the responding officers hands. if the law required a written report for every call, they would have no discretion. community policing has nothing to do with generating unnecessary paper.
Hey Active Voter,
Extrapolate out Bane’s wish list and you’ll find out he wants to increase an already burdened Taxpayer by another $30 Million. You should be thanking Jeff Gahler.
Do your homework.
Active Voter,
Well since you have established this comparison….If Jesse was a CEO he would have been terminated years ago for his mismanagement and wasting of the company funds. He would have been sued by several employees for creating and maintaining a hostile work environment. He would have been lambasted by shareholders for their negative returns. “His” company would be on the ropes for failing to keep up with the technology that is driving progressive agencies. His failure to implement new strategies offered by his commanders and deputies would display his incompetence.
As a citizen, you, I and everyone else deserve a Sheriff that is not insecure, does not fabricate facts and qualifications, and who above all will give 100% of his or her their waking moments to “serve and protect” the citizens of Harford County. It is the year 2012 and we no longer need a Sheriff who is self-serving.
No disrespect to anyone. There really should be “term limits” for our elected officials. Two terms as Sheriff is plenty for anyone. While we are at it, two or three terms as MD Speaker of the House or President of the Senate is more than enough time to be in office.
Is there a way for Citizens to get a term limit bill on the ballot via a referendum?
There should be term limits for elected officials and law enforcement commanders who seek aditional pensions.
Term Limits for All!
I think term limits are good also, however, the topic here is Gahler vs. Bane. You Gahler supporters should remember that it was Gahler who started this argument because he cannot interpret statistics. This political garbage goes on all of the time during elections in the Sheriff’s Office. But, we are two years from the next election. So, find something else to do besides nit pick statistics. Our Sheriff’s Department has and continues to do a great job.
Monster, how right you are. Maybe someone in Pikesville should look at the anticipated candidate’s work product at where he is currently reaping tax payer dollars. Instead, like his leader, he is looking for his retirement job.
Voter and Monster, what misleading statistics are you talking about? As I have pointed out previously, Mr. Gahler’s letters and figures are well documented with the references right there to see. Bane’s figures are not supported by any reference and are obviously his own calculation that so far, he has been unable or unwilling to produce. I can tell you that it is not Gahler who needs the statistics course. It is the sheriff who needs to learn that there is nothing more important than the truth.
@factchecker,
You could not be more correct in your assessment of the facts. Hell, even Bane agrees that Gahler was citing correct figures. Citing means he was referencing data and information on the topic. Bane could not say what he was citing and that appears to be because he was making it up. Back to the point of the entire discussion, a matter of integrity, not a matter of statistics.
factchecker and onpoint,
What the hell are you two talking about? Gahler wants to include the incorporated police forces in the formula for how many deputies the Sheriff controls. The Sheriff does not have control or power over the incorporated forces. You two cannot be police if you don’t understand this. Integrity is important, why don’t you all get some.
Monster,
Obviously you did not take the time to look at the link provided in Mr. Gahler’s first letter. It took me right to the Uniform Crime Report that had the entire county broken down in number of officers. Do you get it? This is the Uniform Crime Report – “uniform” in that all agencies report in a uniform fashion. IT SHOWS that his county (as a whole) is right there with the average for the entire county population. Sheriff Bane wants to use the overall number as a goal, but dumb down the officer number to give an incorrect and deceptive picture of available police officers. Obviously, he has dumbed it down enough for you. Really, I do not think you are that dumb, just trying to allow Sheriff Bane’s lie to live on.
Onpoint:
Seems to me Sheriff Bane would have access to crime stats in his jurisdiction. However, on who’s dime and what resources were used to by an potential opponent to garner that informationfor an possible upcoming political challenge?
Larry,
Not sure what you are asking. What is your question?
Not sure I understand either. Sheriff Bane has already conceded that the UCR is correct, however he wants everyone to disregard the UCR and understand how he arrives at his statistics. I tried to follow the Sheriff’s thought process in his interview with the Dagger but it was extremely hard as he was all over the place.
OnPoint,
What you sent doesn’t make sense either. I know about the FBI Uniform Code. Duh. What is objectionable is that Gahler would say that we need to count the incorporated jurisdictions in the number when we look at the population count. The Sheriff does not have control over them. His point is he needs more deputies. Tell me, do you understand that? When we talk about dumbing things down, you could be the poster boy. Are you in line to get a big promotion if Gahler wins?
Monster,
Not in line for a job or a promotion, but if there is a line, I will be well in front of you. Your words from the above post: “What is objectionable is that Gahler would say that we need to count the incorporated jurisdictions in the number when we look at the population count” That is what Bane is saying, not Gahler. Bane wants to count the population of the county INCLUDING those areas with their own police departments. You were disagreeing with Bane’s admission, now you are disagreeing with yourself.
Gahler supporters and others who hope to benefit,
Reread what Bane said in his response to Gahler. If you can’t understand that I hope you don’t carry a gun or have car keys. It is hypocritical the way you throw around the words integrity and honesty, and spread the bull that you do. You have the right to believe what you want, and so do I, but I will challenge your bs every chance I get.
Monster,
Did you write out Bane’s notes for his rambling interview. He sounds a lot like you………is that you Sheriff?
No, it isn’t the clerk at the MSP who counts inventory either.
Good to know, doubt you could do that tough of a job.
Yeah, taking inventory is a tough job. Did you run out of facts or what you want to represent as facts?
Monster,
The bs you are trying to challenge is the Uniform Crime Report which Sheriff Bane has already conceded is correct.
Mike Welsh,
No one is disputing the Uniform Crime Statistics. What is disputed is the interpretation. Get real.
Gahler talks about doing basic math, well garbage in and garbage out. Why would he count the MSP with the Sheriff’s Office. We all know the MSP should be the Highway Patrol, and the Sheriff doesn’t have control over them anyway. Further, how many deputies are serving court orders- Civil Division. Gahler is desperate and he knows the mood is one of let’s cut. He is trying to capitalize on it, and many of you know that.
Monster,
It’s over two years until the next election. Why would Mr. Gahler be desperate? Mr. Gahler has not even decided if he is going to be a candidate for Sheriff in 2014. Speaking of desperation, I’m beginning to detect desperation in your posts. Good Grief Monster, get a grip!!
I suspect more in yours. Are you telling me that he hasn’t decided yet. Come on, you are full of bs.
Isn’t Gahler a mechanic with a gun? Move that big rig up to the scale….Filler up sir!
Yeah, and I would be willing to say that taxpayers paid for his education.
Mike Welsh,
What Bane does to employees? Is that why the Union supported him?
Eddie Munster: You are kidding, right? What does Bane do to employees? Try reading the 400 posts on here to see exactly what he does. Mind you he DOESN’T do the same things to his supporters or those he finds to be artistically inclined.
Just Sayin, maybe to you reading these words says that there are many deputies who don’t like Bane. How scientific of you using this as fact. Neither I or you know how many deputies voted for Gahler or Bane. But, I will ask again, why did the union support him.
After a time you will see similarities in writing styles, especially by people using pseudonyms. For instance, both Onpoint and another poster have used Simpson references and the word sanctimonious to describe me. Not the sort of thing you’d normally see from two different people. Plus when you couple the fact that the Dagger Forum is easy to fool with different names, the thumbs down or thumbs up options become very attractive to someone or a few someones that just want to make it seem like their point is extremely popular. I knew a girl like this, she liked to use aliases. As it turns out this was one of several markers for a psychotic personality. The kind that craves attention, even of the negative sort, has volatile interpersonal relationships, has trouble holding a job, lacks empathy, and has little regard for the rights of others. In fact their entire existence is focused on the manipulation of others to believe that they are superior – at least in their own mind. These also tend to make up a good portion of the prison population, and a few pursue careers in law enforcement to satisfy their need.
The SANCTIMONIOUS know-it-all veritable fountain of misinformation David A. Porter is at it again. You are truly a renaissance man–you know so little about so much.
And others just post on the Dagger using the AKA David A. Porter.
Hey Porter,
Why not educate us on Bane’s Fuzzy math. Bane clearly stated Jeff Gahlers facts were accurate. Is Bane confused or is he cherry picking statistics to cover up his poor policing leadership?
Why not educate us on Mark Forwood? Jesse Bane did hire him as the number 3 in charge? Jesse Bane did leave him on the payroll with no job responsibilities for seven months, is that correct?
Have more inmates died under Jesse Bane’s watch at the detention center than any other Sheriff?
The Sheriff’s budget increased by approximately 40% or $18 million under Banes 1st term?
On Jesse Bane’s behalf, the Union Leadership spent approximately $60,000 plus of Deputies union dues to reelect Jesse Bane.
Porter – what have I forgot? I doubt if you address any of these points because you are a coward that will not address the truth.
You guys are marvelous. Keep posting. An intelligent person can figure out what you are doing. Just after I comment about how the Thumbs Down can be manipulated, three of you post negative comments towards me – not the concept and my comment gets seven thumbs down. Let’s just call you what you are: Disenfranchised. I hope you stay that way.
David Porter, I agree with you. It is the same old bs where a few of Gahler’s henchmen use multiple names repeating a bunch of crap. They repeat the same information and don’t bother addressing Gahler’s interpretation of the Uniform Crime Statistics. They are a bunch of deplorable want to be’s.
Porter,
Still waiting for you to address Jesse Bane’s obvious flaws and blunders. I told you that you wouldn’t and you didn’t. Everyone knows the game that you and the Monsta try to perpetrate. You try to deflect the real issues and have the readers bogged down in your petty rants that add nothing.
Porter, you are a disgrace and a coward.
What does artistically inclined refer to, in terms of Bane’s giving preferential treatment?
B Jack: “Artistically inclined” refers to the video that 2 correctional officers at the Detention Center filmed, in which they portray themselves to be gang members, emulating the very people they are guarding behind bars. You can find it on youtube and there is an entire article about it on The Dagger. Instead of doing anything about it, Bane is allowing them to use their “artistic expression”. But if you put a campaign sign on your lawn without his name on it, that is not “artistic expression” and you won’t get promoted and you will get transferred to midnight shift.
Monster,
I am not a member of the Deputies Union. I really don’t know why they chose to support Mr. Bane vs Mr. Gahler. I have spoken with several current Deputies who are union members and not happy with the fact that Sheriff Bane chose not to promote either the first or second ranked person on the Lieutenants promotion eligibility list.
If you are saying that the Deputies Union supports Sheriff Bane not promoting the top two people on the promotion list, then that would indeed be news to me. I am hearing just the opposite.
The union endorsed Bane in the last election. That is a fact. Continue to shower me with your empirical evidence “I have spoken to several deputies…” What the hell does that matter, so have I. Obviously, I didn’t get the same response. Most deputies understand that this is the Sheriff’s Office every four years and that Gahler has chosen to make an issue out of it because he doesn’t have anything else.
Eddie Munster, I’m sure the deputies are going to confide in you and tell you how much they disagree with Bane. Yeah, right. There is no deputy other than the chosen ones who think that creating new policies just to screw over someone who didn’t vote for you is the right thing to do. So no, Eddie, you are not going to get the same response. Donate money to Bane’s campaign if you want to be an insider.
just sayin, my response that you have responded to was to tell posters to use facts and not empirical evidence. How many deputies support Bane and how many support Gahler, who knows? You certainly don’t either. So stick to the facts. The Union endorsed him and supported him-that is a fact. Why did they donate to him? It is rather obvious that they believed him to be the best candidate for the Department and deputies. Now why don’t you watch a good tv show that matches your intelligence-can you find one?
The Union supported Sheriff Bane in 2010. That’s a fact. It is not a fact that the Union supports Sheriff Bane today. Get your facts straight.
You are wasting your time with Monster. Once again, he is arguing with himself. He talks about the deputies having supported and endorsed Bane in the last election. He doesn’t even understand that the “ed” means past tense and that is exactly where Bane’s support remains, in the past. Some how Monster writes in past tense, but believes it to be current. Again, I guess the fingers are too far from the brain to be on the same page.
Bobbie P, and how do you know they don’t. Cite some data for me. And, by the way, I respond in one name only. How many do you use?
I use only mine. Wake up, its 2012, not 2010.
I think I’ll sit back and watch you and your Uncle Fester chew lightbulbs, Eddie Munster.
just sayin’,
I think the Munsters are over your head. The 3 Stooges may be better.
Please take Bobbie P with you. Now get one of the other Gahler henchmen and you will have your own 3 Stooges.
Monster,
Have you recently suffered blunt force trauma to the head? You are not making sense. Your posts are becoming incoherent.
Mike Welsh,
If my posts don’t make sense to you, that should be a clue to you that aren’t too bright.
“that should be a clue to you that aren’t too bright”
Hmmmm. I rest my case!
If only you were bright enough to rest your case.
Porter you are a fool. Are you one of the chosen few that got a $30,000 raise or position that the job description was written just for you? Do you really think that the 800 comments on here in the past week are all full of fluff and full of bs. You however know that there is merit behind these complaints and you have a personal vendetta to support the sheriff. I do not blame you if I got a job for which i was not qualified for I would support Ol L Jesse too! And for the record I do not support a sheriff in 2014, so dont try your bs.
No sweety. I’m an engineer. I work outside HCSO. And I don’t need a $30,000 a year raise to object to your negativity or to be able to navigate through your behavior issues. I like what someone else posted here, I believe they suggested that if this was a private company, the CEO would eliminate the rot to preserve the moral of the rest of the employees.
I wish the CEO of the Dagger would eliminate your rot, David A Porter.
Just sayin, I wish you would remove yourself.
Just about three years until “D-Day”.
I joined the dagger after a friend sent me a request last year. The Police Department in this area is in bad bad shape if this is the truth. I hope that people who work there are not being treated this bad. I hope that you all are wrong.
April, Our police do a great job. It is difficult to believe that they are mistreated except by the people they arrest. Don’t believe all of this crap that comes from some of these posters.
April,
By and large the policing agencies in Harford County do a good job. That said, it has nothing to do with how they are treated within their work environment, specifically by the Sheriff. You can read the many posts throughout the various articles and discern for yourself if the allegations are accurate.
One very telling thing about the many posts is the number of people who are willing to post using their real name. You will note that even those who post making favorable comments about the Sheriff do not use their real name if they are a current employee of the Sheriff’s Office. That should speak volumes about the morale within the HCSO.
April, the morale at the Sheriff’s Office is lower that it has ever been due to the poor management, acrimony and randomness of Jesse Bane’s attacks. The Deputies’ Union will be taking a vote of “no confidence” at one of their upcoming meetings. So the deputies have no confidence, yet the David A. Porters, Monsters and others on this website think they know better than the actual deputies. Pathetic. Yet through all of this, the deputies continue to do their jobs the best they can with courage, honor and intergrity. Too bad their boss doesn’t do the same. Many of you on here say the deputies are whiners & complainers, but this job is so stressful as it is. You never know if today will be “the day”. Additional stress from the boss on top of that is not only affecting the deputies, it affects the citizens too. Ask Jesse Bane about the attrition rate at the Sheriff’s Office. Wait, he can’t add, ask someone who can. Due to deputies going out on medical stress leave, retiring because they’ve had enough of his crap, or just turning in their resignations, maybe Lionel would have more of those deputies he complains about needing. Yes, every place of business has problems, but police officers are a different breed and it definitely affects them when the boss is the one out to get you, just as much as the bad guys on the streets are. So the next time you want to criticize and say they are whining and complaining, they probably are, but they are only doing so because they want to do the jobs they were trained to do and which theydo so well–protect the citizens of Harford County, without the remorseless and vengeful Jesse Bane always on their case.
No, you have it wrong. If you are speaking for the deputies and identify yourself as one – WITH YOUR REAL NAME – then maybe we can take you as something more serious than a shouting angry little man with a grudge. You’ve manipulated this forum for your own ends citing how you have massive numbers behind you and yet most of those numbers are from a few irritated angry people like yourself pretending to be multiple personalities. Again, a sign of severe psychosis. The help you need will not come form denigrating Bane or elevating your importance with your imaginary friends. It will come from intense counseling to get to the root of your anger issues.
Porter, I thought you stated that you were an engineer. Do you have a degree in psychiatry as well? You are very familiar with the signs of psychosis, so much so that I suspect you are the one with mental illness. You’re the one talking about imaginary friends, not me. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand so please refrain from diagnosing me and suggesting treatment; however, I believe you would benefit from therapy for your delusional thoughts of grandeur and bogus enlightenments.
David, we both know that if they use their real names they might as well resign before they post it.
Every organization has problems. To what extent are those problems? Tea Party members went after Bane because of spending, forgetting that he was building a much needed addition to the overcrowded jail and a new building for the Southern precinct. His opponent saw this as an opportunity to paint him as a big spender and possibly defeat him in the election. Well, it didn’t happen, and just like the confederates in the civil war, they have vowed to “rise again.” That is why we have an election every 4 years. I personally think the Sheriff has done a good job in this county.
Harley,
It is not the citizens of Harford County that suffer from the day to day actions of Sheriff Bane, it is the employee(s) of the HCSO that suffer the wrath of Sheriff Bane.
Might I add that the jail expansion has been completed for quite sometime, however, current staffing is inadequate to open expansion.
If the citizens of Harford County are happy with the job the sheriffs do then it is very likely Bane will continue in his current job. After all, that is why we elect a sheriff, to have a staff that keeps us safe, responds to our requests for service, and does the job competently and effectively. That appears to be happening in Harford County.
We do not elect a sheriff to keep his staff happy, fulfilled, or filled with job satisfaction. In their jobs, as in my own, if I do not feel my needs are being met, I have the option to move on.
My experiences with Bane’s staff have been overwhelmingly positive. For that, I thank them, and I also thank him for a job well done. For those of you that are retired from the force and just plain hate Bane, run for the job yourself or actively support another contender. Fomenting dissension in the ranks for your own gratification seems awfully petty to me.
Bill Jack,
Do you believe that the retired Deputies are responsible for Sheriff Bane passing over the first and second highest ranked Sergeants on the Lieutenants promotion list, and promoting the third highest person on the list? Dissension among the ranks of the Sheriff’s Office was not caused by, or stirred up by, retired personnel. Jesse deserves credit for that, he has certainly earned it.
If there was a legitimate avenue for Deputies to address their grievances at work without severe retribution from the Sheriff, then most of the conversation on this venue would not be necessary. The current Deputies use their retired brethren as an avenue to address wrongs that they can’t do themselves for fear of retribution.
If you were Sheriff, would you promote someone you thought worthy of a promotion? One of your guys who you trusted and thought you could better work with? Promoting someone just because they are next in line doesn’t seem to be a great idea. Look up Eisenhower.
Mr. E,
They call the promotion system you suggest the ‘good ole boy’ system. If that’s the system Mr. Bane wants then why have another system in place (which he does) and then disregard your own system.
Sheriff Bane should be up front. Tell his employees, promotions in the HCSO are NOT based on merit, they are based on who I like, who I think I can trust, and who I can (nod your head yes) best work with. He should also tell them outstanding performance of duty, exceptional knowledge of policing techniques or other duties within the HCSO, committment to the organization, are not what gets you promoted. Its about whether I like you!
Yes Mr. E., that will certainly get the morale and spirits up for all the employees in the HCSO!!
Mr. E.
This (Welsh above) is exactly right and so telling about the integrity of Sheriff Bane. He can throw the whole process out and just promote who he wants as you suggest. Such good judgement on his part promoted a now convicted felon (and Bane campaign contibutor) to one of the highest positions in the Sheriff’s Office. Instead of following the well establish process, he plays games with people’s lives and careers while wasting taxpayer money on a process he disregards the results of. Seems obvious to me that Bane’s judgement can’t stand up to the results of the independent board.
Quit demonizing the TEA PARTY. They are saving the country from financial ruin. Of course, you are too ignorant to see that, Harley. You must be a tax and tax and spend and spend liberal.
Yes of course. The Tea Party are the sole purveyors of salvation in this country. If you listen to them long enough and loudly enough they will convince you that they are not driven by hate. Just ignore every other word they speak and they will seem lucid and willing to work together for a better country of their own choosing.
Actually Barry, I wasn’t putting down the Tea Party. I even attended two of its rallies in Bel Air. I just don’t think that Bane has been protrayed fairly as a tax and spend liberal. I use my own thinking processes and not what someone else wants me to believe. That is what I think. Now, Barry, why don’t you do some thinking.
Thank you for the responses I did not expect that. It seems to me that there are more negative comments about this sheriff then there are positive. I hope that things get better in the police department, I have called the police twice and always had the situation fixed. I am grateful of the police officer’s in this county. Thank you for your service.
Look I disagree with alot of comments that have been put on here. BUT I also have seen good people in this department whos reputations have been completely tarnished just because you can. In my opinion if decisions are made out of fairness and not based on alerior motives then so be it. But if decisions are made behind closed doors and have an alterior motive, well thats just plain not right.
Jessie,
You need to RETIRE. Time for some younger, fresher blood. I never trusted you after the corruption in your office conveniently came out after the election.
GAHLER 2014!
And Barry Z is a new poster of the same genetic strain as all the others. Drink his Koolaid please.
An engineer, a psychiatrist and a geneticist! Wow Porter, quite a resume you have there. I’m sure Jesse Bane would hire you because your BS is right up there with his.
Just Sayin, Monster and David Porter…. I think all 3 of you need to grow up and quit acting like spoiled rotten little brats with all the name calling and demeaning, self-righteous comments. It really takes away from the seriousness of the issues currently taking place at the HCSO. It is only making the whole thing into a 3 ring circus (JS, M, and DP). PLEASE, these are very serious accusations and if we are to resolve them, your rants are not helping the case, on either side. I am sickened by the most recent comments and am going to stop reading the Dagger Press if it continues!
Craziness: You choose not to read the Dagger any longer because it hits you in the faith with truth. Too bad you can’t accept that. I’m sure The Dagger will be reeling from the loss of your readership.
@ Active Voter… You have said a lot about rants, but have you read the interview with Bane? Now that is what I call a rant! It was incoherent, rambling, and nonsensical by the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of Harford County. This forum and the facts that are being presented against Bane are exposing the fraud that he is to the public.
Let’s look at what a man he is and what he has done as Sheriff that’s full of lies, deceit, and misdeeds.
1. Removing a friends warrant out of the NCIC system (Harford County puts all their warrants in MILES/NCIC) so he is not arrested.
2. Having thousands of dollars in leave and overtime fraud in his School Policing Unit and then transferring the Sergeant that uncovers the fraud.
3. Take computers and phones out of property before they are processed and return them to their owners.
4. Keep confiscated items in his desk drawer and then give them back to Deputy and tell him he can now charge. (Chain of custody?)
5. When Friends of Jesse ( FOJ’S) call during an investigation; contact Deputy as call is taking place and try to influence/nullify charging on behalf of FOJ.
6. Lie about Major Forward’s right to LEOBR and continue to pay a criminal for month until he victimizes Home Depot again. Forward could have been fired immediately because he had no rights in LEOBR.
7. Force a Deputy to resign for lying on a summons service, transfer and demote a Corporal from School Policing (same person involved in previous leave /OT fraud) for lying and move to the road. What was different between forced to resign and transfer. First deputy informed he could never testify in court because of his lie. What is the difference between the Corporal’s lie? Could it be campaign funding?
8. Transfer employee of 17 yrs. with cancer because she supported another candidate.
9. Harass a Corporal with an illness who still has sick leave. But allow a female Deputy to work for months and call off without pay because she had no sick leave left.
10. Nullify the promotional process and skip the two top candidates because they supported another candidate or their brother has brought suit against you. These two Sergeants were picked by an outside board on merit. Do you want another decision made by Bane alone? His past personal decision making brought Forward and caused him to bypass several competent candidates for Major this last time!
11.”Stat Gate” by the Sheriff! You cannot just take sworn officers out of the equation because you chose to put them behind a desk. They all count towards manpower and maybe it is the mismanagement by Bane. In 2006 he said he was going to civilianize several positions and put more deputies on the road. While in fact he has created more units that remove officers from the road.
12. A deputy committed tax fraud by failing to report secondary income to the IRS. The deputy was not reprimanded internally nor was this reported to the IRS, even though Bane had full knowledge. For his deception, the deputy was rewarded by being named as a Detective in the criminal investigations division by L. Jesse Bane.
13 .A deputy with 19 years of service diagnosed with breast cancer was forced to retire. Bane would not let anyone donate sick leave to her, as he felt she abused her leave previously. Her co-workers who wanted to donate their time were told that they could only donate one day. As a result, she was forced to resign short of 20 years of duty, thus limiting her retirement benefits.
14. An evidence collection analyst was forced to resign after chastising Bane for contaminating a crime scene. Bane walked into the area where the deputies were collecting evidence. After the deputy asked Bane to remove himself from the crime scene, Bane told her this was “his” crime scene and he demanded her forced resignation shortly thereafter.
15. Bane committed insurance fraud by allowing an ex-employee to remain “on the books” so she could continue to get medical benefits even though she was no longer working at the agency.
Everything listed here is fact and was done by Bane. Yes, this is embarrassing stuff for the Deputies, but this is what the agency has become under Bane’s “leadership”. The only positive is that HCSO Deputies are professional and continue to do their jobs in spite of Bane’s mistreatment and mismanagement.
Earth to Bane….. Being a leader because you have the sharper spear is not being a true leader. You are a fraud and after reading your rants we all realize that you are truly unbalanced.
Cold, Hard Facts, In your list you mention fraud a couple of times. Fraud is against the law. If, as you say, that these are facts, why haven’t you taken action? If you know for sure that this is fact, then I would say that you aren’t doing your job. Or are you just BSing?
Monster: Some of the deputies have attempted to take action. The county and state will not get involved because everything, even fraud, is “at the will of the sheriff” and the sheriff’s office is an entity all it’s own. On the rare occasion that an outside agency does make an effort, Bane circles the wagons (his chosen ones on the 2nd floor of the ivory tower) and has them lie for him. Monster, I know you and others are at odds with me over this, but Cold Hard Facts is not making any of this up. This is what we are dealing with on a 24/7 basis. I think the reason there is so much resentment and frustration on this website is because there is absolutely nothing that can be done and the Dagger is giving us an outlet to vent. No one is making anything up. Several people have commented that they “like” Bane. Being likeable does not make someone a good manager. I hope those who do say they care for Bane think twice after reading Cold Hard’s truthful statements. The worst thing is that Bane truly is messing with people’s lives and by that I don’t mean what shift they are on or what unit they are placed in. He is messing with THEIR RIGHT TO LIFE because the stress he is putting on already sick people is weakening them physically and no one can possibly think that is likeable or gentlemanly. It’s nothing but disgusting.
BS to you again, Just Sayin. You need to go to the State’s Attorney’s Office and produce your proof, if you have any. The SA is a Republican, he would be happy to take Bane on with real facts and information. Also, quit using so many names when you post. Juan Valdez, really? You can do better than that.
Call the FBI, ask to speak to the Agent in charge of Public Corruption Section. They will listen. After reading Cold Hard Facts I can tell you this all can be backed up with facts.
FBI Baltimore Field Office 410-265-8080. Public Corruption Unit. Bane has to answer to someone, he is not above the law remember that.
Marc Eaton, you believe this after reading a post by one of Gahler’s supporters. How smart are you. I already challenged this post, and I will be happy to help and go to the State’s Attorney’s Office in this County. As you should know, the SA is a Republican who I am sure would be happy to help a fellow Republican win the Sheriff’s Office. So, if he isn’t BS ing it is his duty.
Dear Monster, I know where the States Attorney’s Office is. I have been there many times. As far as my being smart….I will leave that up to you. That was a question right? Mr. Monster, if I close my eyes and read the words ” I will be happy to help and go to the States Attorney’s Office” I can hear Jesse Bane saying that. Not the States Attorney part, the ” I will be happy to help you”. I think these guys are right, you may be Bane. No, in this case I would call the FBI, they have a Public Corruption Unit for guys like Bane.
Cold, Hard Facts was dead on with his post. Bane you may not remember, but I to was on the other end of one of your humiliate the deputy productions. I know if I posted the long story you may or may not remember. So I know how these guys feel to have to go back and have the FOJ card displayed to them. Only back in 1986 I didn’t know it was the FOJ card. If you are Bane you name fits you perfectly.
marc0189@verizon.net
Remember people call the FBI with your complaints, some of what Cold Hard Facts wrote about do need to be looked into.
530 to Harford County.
Don’t forget Bane’s misuse of Task Force Funds. He used money to pay for a private entity to have their fingerprints and background checks done. He later lied to the Union and said he used his own money. (Oh Jesse… there is a copy of the TF check that can be produced) :o(
He also wanted to turn over criminal history information directly to them when it is a clear violation to do so. He just did not understand even after multiple commanders told him it could not be done. And the kicker is…he ran the Records Unit for years and did not understand the law…he was clueless then, just as he is now.
Cold, Hard Facts.
1. I was at a party two weeks ago up in Pa. I was talking to a couple, one of which I went to school with. One of her complaints was about warrants being removed from the computer or not put in at all. She also stated that the Sgt who runs the unit will call people and tell them they have warrants but will hold off on putting them in the system to avoid an arrest over the holidays. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
2. The leave fraud involving the School Policing Unit. This same Corporal who was involved with that is also a part of # 7 in your post. Maybe I should just put his name on here. He lied in a Staff investigation and was demoted and moved back to Patrol. I guess if you donate enough money to a campaign you get transferred and not fired.
3. I know of an incident involving people with an FOJ card having property returned to them. This was ordered by the Sheriff also. Do you know how demeaning this must be for a cop to have to return evidence with suspected CDS residue in it.
4. & 5. I have talked to a deputy who was asked not to charge a person because FOJ card was played by a family member. The request for not charging came from Bane. Who is the Sheriff to decide who should be charged or not. We used to call the States Attorney and ask them, I guess Bane got his law degree at some point.
6. I am still fuzzy on the LEOBR for Forwood. I was schooled by someone that I was wrong on that. I to thought he should have been fired.
7. 530 to Harford County.
8. Pure politics! One of the nicest people I have ever known. To put that added stress on her is just typical Jesse Bane, little mans syndrome.
9. Know about it, I guess he should make a video of his illness then he would be okay. Maybe the Major should read up on the ADA?
10. Again, pure politics again. The number three guy is a good man but Betz was more qualified for the position at the CAC. Bane puts political vendettas ahead of what is good for the CAC.
11. Stat gate, I remember the red light camera program and meetings we had on it. Once Bane gets a thought in his head you can not change his mind. Back then he was so sure you had to have a certified police officer handling these tickets. Even when he was given the law to read, he refused to change his mind.
12. Heard the story today first hand, Uncle Sam would like to have his hands on that money. Lets go to the Waffle House.
13. This deputy now struggles to make ends meet due to her retirement. Again, a breast cancer survivor. Worked with her and she was always in a good mood and wonderful to be around. Worked several warrant details with her in my day, she was good at her job. Apparently she was accused of abusing leave. She should have worked for 530.
14. This one is the worst. This lady was the best in her field. This incident involved a homicide. Bane who knows nothing about securing a crime scene wanted the body covered. It was in Edgewood, I wonder if it would have been in another area of the County would he have even been there. This is where the “hug a thug ” started. I guess you would rather compromise your crime scene for votes. In Bane’s defense he was never a real cop so he would not know how to secure an actual crime scene.
15. Don’t know anything about this one, I will have to ask around.
The men and women who are in the cross hairs of Bane and his Major work a very stressful job. The majority of the stress comes from within. It is not the job on the streets, it is the BS of the head hunters. I have no agenda and nothing to gain from this. I do not know many of the people who have worked there since I retired in 2002. They deserve to be able to do their job without the added stress of a select view who make their lives miserable. If they want to contact me and tell me their story I will put it out there. All they have to do is call. marc0189@verizon.net
Mr. Eisenhower: If you are going to promote someone just because you bond with them, then why bother with the farce of a promotional process at all? Those who test are forced to read books, study the entire policy book, then take a written exam and an oral exam. If Bane is just going to promote who he wants, then why is he putting the deputies through this process? Because he is a sadist.
Mike Welsh, Just Sayin, other Bane haters
you guys keep up the good work we want him out of officed
Audrey,
For the record I do not hate Sheriff Bane. I dislike some of the things he does, especially the way he treats many of his employees. The “fear my retribution” management technique is never a truly effective management principle.
get bane out edgewood
Like Mike Welsh I also do not hate the sheriff. What I hate is the fact that several people are being singled out just because “they” can. Other things have and are happening even if the only thing you read on here is about the two people that were skipped on the promotional list. What about the two people that were transferred to evening shift for no real reason and now they barely ever see there family. What about the person that was transferred to midnight shift after attending another canidates campaign meeting in the last election. What about the person that is sick and in the fight for there life right now and has to worry about if they have a job next week. What happened to taking care of your own? What everyone may forget at times is that if it isnt you now it will be you next. Everytime something happens one can only pray that it does not involve you and as long as it isnt you well then your ok. But really people should be supporting each other becuase it may not be you today but it may be you tomorrow. I know two of the people that this has affected, the person that is sick and one of the people transferred to evening shift. Both of them are good people and would do anything for me and that is why I will stand up and support them if they need anything. Please Please Please stop ruining peoples lives its just not fair.
To the deputy that is sick. I know that you cannot talk right now and I respect that. But just know that we are watching and that you are not alone. I am sorry that you are going thru what you are going thru and I wish you a speedy recovery. You have been in our thoughts and prayers and will continue to be.
How could anyone give a thumbs red thumbs down to this comment. Your Police Officer is sick, I was trying to be postive but I am starting to wonder about the Police Department in this town. You have a girl/guy who is sick why are you being mean, he/she should be supported. My mom was sick and went through alot. Be nice to this person, I am really wondering about people on here.
April some things cannot be explained. I know when I go to church tomorrow I will pray for this officer. I think that it is crazy to be negative against a sick person but everyone has their right to be negative. Does this make it right? No but my husband and I will still pray for this police officer.
April, see Juan for coffee and relax. Lots of people are ill and work, and many times the job may be the reason for the illness. But, I don’t believe that you or Juan really exist, but are a figment of just sayin, Mike Welsh, and many other of the want to bes.
Monster I am a resident of Edgewood. My mother died of ALS and I watched her suffer. I was just trying to make sure that police officers knew that they were appreciated. Why are you picking on me?
Monster is picking on you because his/her thought process is appropriate for the name they chose to use when posting on the dagger.
April, if you are from Edgewood, it would seem to me that you would be a big Bane supporter. This site is loaded with phonies and I believe that you are a creation of one of them designed to show how unsympathetic and vindictive the sheriff is supposed to be. That is why. If you are real, then you need to look at the facts and not the empirical information being supplied by Gahler supporters who repeat the same information over and over.
@ monster- I am not sure what your point is? My husband and I are only supporting issues that were brought to light on this website. I am not against Jesse Bane in fact both my husband and I voted for him in the last election. I was just sending a get well prayer to a police officer that was sick.
read the comment written to April; if your husband is a Baltimore City Officer, ask him about his morale. Once again I think you are a made up character.
Oh my goodness… I didn’t know anything about someone being sick. Is this a deputy or a HCSO civilian ? That is a shame! In what way has this sick person been harassed by the almighty powerful Bane? Whatever it is I sure hope that the sickness is treatable and not something terminal or incurabul.
There is a corporal who has been sick for months and Bane is on his case. He went from being assigned to Southern Precinct to Northern Precinct to Property in a matter of 4 days. His crime? Well that’s for someone else to write about. There is also a civilian who has breast cancer who was recently transferred from day shift where she has worked all 17 years of her career and Bane put her on midnights as punishment? Her crime? Her son runs this website. Putting stress on deputies and employees who are already sick and at risk is just plain inhumane. This is your Sheriff, people.
The corporal you are talking about is one of the best supervisors that I have ever worked for. Not becuase he let us do whatever we wanted but because he had expectations but was fair and impartial. Get well brother we need you back!
Bane is bane. I know fing well Bane is a bought man by the dirty no good for nothing rich ppl thinkin the paid his ticket in to office. About the him running again that’s bs he’s the most stupidest person ever hell half the police isn’t doing there jobs
Stress can make so many medical conditions worse, that is for sure. Is the civilian currently receiving chemo or radiation? That, in itself is enough to have to go through, without being picked on at your job. I know this from personal experience. But, thank goodness, I have been in remission for almost 5 years and am so happy to be declared cancer free. I wish the same for that civilian employee. I hope in 5 years she will be in my same situation and not have to deal with the physical and emotional stress of cancer treatments. Of course, picking on someone who has recently had to deal with a cancer diagnosis is inhumane. Shame on Bane!
PETD, that deputy can email me at marc0189@verizon.net. All emails and calls are confidential, but a thorn in the side of Bane and the headhunters.
I did not know that a police officer was sick. I hope that he/she feels better soon. Again thank you to all the Police officers for their service.
get bane out of office we are tired of harassment
he not good sherriff
sherriff pick on family for no good reson
Dominick, please explain how he harasses your family.
On Behalf of my husband and I(My husband is retired Baltimore City Police) we pray for the sick Police Officer. When you sign up for this job you sacrifice alot and as a wife of a police officer I know that. Fortunately my husband had a sick/injury free career and I am grateful for that. I still pray for you that you get better and that you can protect and serve us. May God be with you and your family if you have a family.
I hope that I am reading this wrong and that this is all a joke. Government employee or not this is a bad situation. Pick on two people that are sick. Wow is all I can say, I am speechless, this has got to be wrong, there is no way this is true.
Really, it is true. In more then one case. This is done to force a person to resign. How would you like to file a complaint against a ranking member of Bane’s administration and then have to work for them? Now you in ill health and have that stress added to it. People think that this is made up, it is true. The men and women of the HCSO have had enough and are starting to speak up. As they do more will come forward and speak up. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Wow! There is a lot of true insider information being posted here. I only hope there will be an official forum for this to be heard and a bonifide investigation into what has been going on. It really boils down to the candidate you support. I’ll bet if you look at the disaffected deputies, you will find most, if not all supported another candidate in the last election. The ones spared, who have committed crimes ordinary citizen go to jail for, probably supported Bane or one of his buddies.
To the community reading this: Understand we will provide you with the utmost professional service as best we can despite the constant pecking many of us receive. Maintaining our focus on providing a safe environment is what is important and why we took the job in the first place.
Marked, if you really believe all of this, then you also are derelict for not reporting Bane’s fraudulent activities to the States Attorney who is a Republican and runs for election every 4 years. You would have to be a fool to believe that he wouldn’t be happy to go after Bane in order to help a Republican, if for no other reason. Everyone of you who posts that Bane is committing fraud is not living up to their oath.
You all need to stop talking about my friend and respect him and his family’s wishes. He is going through enough and would not appreciate people writing things about his personal health on here. If you have any questions call him as I have. This is not the place to be posting anyones personal health information. Leave him alone.
I totally agree with you Bill. I don’t think these two people appreciate it that their personal health information is being published on here. The deputy’s condition sounds recent, and he is probably still trying to deal with the diagnosis. Actually, the civilian’s condition doesn’t sound like a recent occurence. If this is something that happened years ago, I’m not sure what it has to do with any recent treatment at her job anyway.
Whatever the medical health is of these 2 people, I’m sure they don’t want personal information made public. Let’s respect them , please and not write any more medical details. Some people are private and don’t want the world to know what they are going through.
Why doesn’t everyone just give all this negativity a rest for a day and enjoy the sunshine and appreciate what you DO have. Believe me, your lifes could be much worse.
BettyB, is your last name Bane? I have been a reader up until now, but I had to respond to your repulsive post. I’m a good friend of the civilian who is a breast cancer survivor. Read that last word–survivor. How dare you so lightly brush it off as though it was nothing. She will be on medication for the rest of her life. The medication has side effects which she will deal with for the rest of her life. She had lymph nodes removed so her immune system will be compromised for the rest of her life. Stress and lack of sleep such as she experienced being reassigned to midnight shift wears your body down and compounds an already devastating health issue. God help you if you are ever diagnosed. People like you make me sick.
Dove I lost my mom in 2004 to this decease. She fought so hard to live and she was fortunate she was able to retire. I remember seeing the many bottles of medication, and her having to take them at certain times with food. Taking her to her treatments, watching her loose her hair….twice. Sitting with her as the doctor read her last bone scan showing her how the cancer had spread. Then watching for two weeks as her life slowly passed from her body. A moral and good man would do everything in his power to help someone with this curse. He would make her life as stress free as possible. Part of being the Sheriff is taking care of all your people, not just the ones who voted for you. What kind of a man would do this to someone? How does he sleep at night? Karma is a bitch. Jesse, how do you live with yourself?
Marc Eaton, I am not Jesse Bane. It is now time for you to put up or shut up. Go to the authorities, please. If you feel more comfortable with the FBI than the elected States Attorney, go ahead. If I were Bane I would welcome an opportunity to sue some of you.
Jesse or Monster……why didn’t I think of that? Thanks. Can not sue people for stating facts. Open that can of worms please? If you are not Bane you both swim in the same shallow gene pool!
Marc Eaton, No you can’t be sued for the facts, but you can when you use the word fraudulent as has been used by some on this site. I say to you again, go to the authorities and show what you have. Then, come back and give us all the information about what will happen. Otherwise, you are running off at the mouth and not doing anything. Some of the other posters (who are probably you or someone of your ilk} who KNOW that all of Just Sayins facts are true (fraudulent activities}also need to do likewise, otherwise they aren’t doing their duty, now are they? You are upset with me because I challenge you and the garbage that is spread. I will continue to do so until you prove the facts and take some real action.
Marc Eaton, one more thing- I would rather swim in a shallow gene pool than a deep cess pool like you do.
Monster, be patient.
Your still a coward that hides behind a fake name. Why is that? Your not secure enough to make any statements for your pro Bane position so you hide behind a fake name. Show some courage and use your real name. You have my email coward use it. I won’t put your name on here I promise. Marc0189@verizon.net. None of you Baners have the guts to email me!
I used my real name during the election. I was harassed privately until I finally threatened a couple. So, no I don’t use my real name anymore on this site. As far as not having the guts, I meet you anywhere you wish to discuss this, but I will not give out my name.
Something big happened at the jail today involving a change in command. Someone apparently stepped down, anybody know what happened?
I made a call to someone who works there, and was told that the Major who is the senior commander at the DC has abruptly decided to quit, retire, whatever you call it. The person I talked to did not have any details. They did say there were big problems at the jail, people being fired, investigated. The Deputies there are very down right now.
The definition of “Monster” is:
Monster
Noun: An imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly, and frightening.
e-nuff said
With a handle like yours I find it amazing that you would be concerned with mine. Why should anyone take you serious?
To our Brothers and Sisters assigned to the DC. We will stand by you keep your head up and continue to do what you can. We feel your pain and just want you to know that you are not going through this alone. We are having the same problems that you have and have a mutual respect for your issues. STAY SAFE!
Mike Capasso, a good guy. Retired from the Detention Center.
I hear, out of the three senior commanders, Capasso was the only one who knew what was really happening at the Detention Center, and had any true leadership skills. He probably couldn’t put up with the Sheriff’s crap anymore. Can’t wait to see which one of the Sheriff’s do nothings he puts in a leadership role at the HCDC. He will probably hire into the civilian warden position now. When I read the article about Dehaven retiring and Bane not replacing him, supposedly to save money, I knew it was a bunch of crap. Bane just wants to get one of his cronies in that job.
Mike Capasso retiring is a shot to the heart for everyone. He was an Officer, Supervisor, and an Administrator that always wanted what was best for the people. Fortunately he did his 25 year sentence and is able to draw a pension. The vast majority cannot; we are in a sad state.
One of the posters mentioned the Unions. It would be better than great, if both Unions would stand strong and together; however the perceptions will probably always hold us back. For the record, we know you don’t want to be us. We don’t want to be you. If we did we would have applied for that type of job. Has the separation barrier been breached? One can only hope.
I have also read the “You are a bunch of whiney, crybaby Deputies.” To those posters, I wish you could understand that we live and breathe this. We are passionate about what we do, the Deputies we work with, and for the communities in which we serve. Ask yourselves how you would react if put into a similar environment.
Stay strong, work together, be proud of yourself, and those you work with.
To my new friend Monster. You can not intimidate me or keep me from doing what I am doing. I will complete my goal, to see Jesse gone before 2014. I am not alone in this as you can see. You my friend are in the minority! You have my email you coward, use it.
Marc,
How exactly do you plan on accomplishing your goal? So far I just see a web site pi55ing match. Don’t get mad at me for saying that, after looking at the stream of comments here I can’t imagine how you (or monster, or Walsh, et. al.) are trying to get anything more than the last word here. Go out tomorrow to the Wegmans, Wal Mart, or just about anywhere more than two blocks away from the precinct and see how many people know about what you are saying. It does seem reasonable to say “…what now?” I think that everyone here is smart enough to know that (while being a great place to refine your position) this is a VERY select viewing audience. Unless it has some legs, your posts are a tempest in a tea pot. I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong just that most folks that are not employed by HCSO are going to move on if you don’t have something else. I’m not trying to sound fickle or unfair, just pragmatic. Best wishes to all.
@ Mark- thank you trust me people appreciate what you are doing. @ PETD- well said things are really bad on both sides right now. @ monster- you are a sad person, peoples lives are being ruined and we have had enough.
To the unions on both the Law and DC side, Do not turn your back on each other. Support each other, we will not see peoples lives ruined while you sit back. Those days are gone.
I think Monster is realizing that the tide is turning and the men and women of the Sheriff’s Office have had enough of this. They realize if they stand together on this they can not be silenced anymore.
Monster, do you really think I am that stupid that I would go to the States Attorney on this. You know me, I was a better cop then that. Your Vulcan mind probe did not work. I have my things in order. Stay tuned. Take a look at Cold, Hard Facts 15 point post. Can you pick out the violations that have to do with abuse of power. I wonder if anybody else saw that post? I think there is a change coming.
I already answered you- put up or shut up
Monster. Mark Eaton has posted nothing that cannot be backed up by the facts. If your a real man then file a lawsuit against him and your real name will come out. When you do we will support him 100% of the way. He is just saying what we cant say
BS
If you a deputy, then it is your job not mine. I hope you don’t carry a gun or have a license.
Hey Monster and Liberal where are you? Oh your probably at one of Bane’s community “everythings going good” “crime is down” meetings.
I have nothing in common with Proud to be a Liberal. How do you draw such a conclusion?
Blue Folder, I know I am not the brightest crayon in the box. You will just have to trust me on this okay. That is all I can say. More is happening then you think. lt is sad that the local paper if that is what you want to call it and the other news media will not pick up on this. Not for my lack of trying, this to will change. People are starting to pay attention though……you did.
Thank you Lion King and everyone for your support. I appreciate it very much, and so do the rest of the people who can not speak for themselves.
Marc Eaton,
you are so good to spend your time on this site telling us about the evils of bane. I just know that you are trustworthy and believe you. Those who dont are just negative people. You hang in there and dont stop because we need you to tell us what is going on. you should run for office.
Libby, I am trying to help my brothers and sisters who have no voice. I am trying to make a difference for them. I am a nobody and I am not looking for a pat on the back, this is not about me. I remember what I was taught in the academy and by my Mom. I see none of what I was taught about ethics and integrity in the Sheriff. We were always a family, Law Enforcement and Corrections. You help one another and stood by each other. Even if you didn’t really like the person we were still a family. This is gone it seems. The actions of some of the people that I worked side by side with I find hard to accept. Others not so much. When I came on back in 1982 Sheriff Moyer was my first Sheriff. We were known back then as one of the best Sheriff’s Office’s in the state. No head games, no back stabbing and we loved our jobs. This will come back with the right Sheriff. Not with Bane. The Office of Sheriff is not a man, it is the men and women who put their lives on the line everyday. The Law Enforcement and Corrections together. The bad seed is Bane and a few mindless followers. I am proud to be a retired Deputy from Harford County. The people who are on the other end of Bane feel the same way. The people who do his bidding I don’t know where they are coming from.
Me run for Office. I am not politically correct enough to run for Office. I am cursed with an a– hole gene. Now watch many will no speak up and agree with that statement. I worked for some really great supervisors and leaders. When you stick up for your people when they are right or wrong they appreciate you and will do a good job for you. I took my share of lumps and I deserved everyone of them, never had them held against me and my supervisors encouraged me to move on and do my job. I did. I could not imagine working for someone who would throw me under a bus like this Sheriff is wiling to do. Bane does not realize that he works for the people of Harford County. He also has a responsibility to give his people a stress free work environment. I think being the Sheriff of Harford County would make a person feel pride would do anything to show his people he appreciates them and supports them. Good or bad, they have to no there are no grey areas and everyone is treated equally. Not pick and choose who will be punished and who will not but what sign the had in their yard during the last election.
You and others keep the kind words coming, the people who are starting to speak out get encouragement from them. Thanks again.
I have never been one to care what people think of me….another flaw I guess.
I agree. I am tired of the time that Bane spends in Edgewood.
yeah get bane out of edgewood. you cant do nothing withjout someone hasslin you
do we have to waite til next election?
No, Mark and his brothers are going to take care of legally. Just watchj.
Someone please do something SOON. Its sad when someone loves the job so much and gets nothing but hassle at work.
yeah the sheriff hassles us civillians get him out go to falston