The Harford County chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has accused Aberdeen police officers of “harassment, disrespect, foul language, kicking and stomping of one young lady, and other acts of brutal punishments” that violate the civil rights of black residents of the city.
During a press conference held Tuesday afternoon, NAACP leaders described a near-riot stemming from a Feb. 11 incident in which Aberdeen police arrested several black citizens – allegedly by taking “the law into their own hands by threats, viciously and forcefully attacking our African American citizens for no reason and certainly without justifiable cause.”
The incident unfolded when Aberdeen Police Officer J.R. Adkins approached a man who was standing outside of a convenience store in Aberdeen. Adkins and the man, believed to be Troy Maye, had been engaged in previous encounters. Adkins asked him what he was doing and Troy Maye said he was waiting for his daughter.
A verbal altercation ensued, attracting the man’s sister, believed to be Trashel Maye, and female cousin, believed to be Jasmine Brooks. The officer ordered Troy Maye to go across the street, and he and his family members complied. Adkins then got into his cruiser and pulled across the street.
It’s unclear what happened next, but Adkins called for back up as he arrested Troy Maye. At least one of the two female family members asked why Troy Maye was being arrested and both of them were arrested.
The 19-year-old female, Brooks, was allegedly knocked down and kicked, although it’s unclear which officers were involved. At some point Brooks’ blouse was torn and she was arrested in her bra.
Jerome Foster, Vice President of the Harford County NAACP, was not an eyewitness, but said Brooks was “abused, assaulted and humiliated.”
The young woman’s brother, believed to be Deon Brooks-Anderson, who had appeared on the scene and witnessed his sister’s arrest, then allegedly threw a trash can at police officers and ended up arrested himself.
Sgt. Fred Budnick of the Aberdeen Police Department, would confirm only the rough details of the incident.
“We did make several arrest in the 100 block of [E. Bel Air Avenue] on the 11th, the arrested generated some concerns by the NAACP, the HCSo has been asked to review the incident,” he wrote in an email.
According to Budnick, in that Feb. 11 incident, Troy Maye, 29, of E. Bel Air Avenue was charged with 2nd degree assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. Three others were charged with 2nd degree assault, resisting arrest, hindering a police officer and disorderly conduct. They include Trashel Maye, 26, of E. Bel Air Avenue, Deon Brooks-Anderson, 18, of East Bel Air Avenue, and Jasmine Brooks, 19, of Perryood Drive.
As a result of the complaints and accusations from the NAACP after the incident, the Harford County Sheriff’s Office is conducting an internal investigation of the Aberdeen Police Department and the officers involved.
Here is the press release from Zilpha P. Smith, president of the Harford chapter of the NAACP:
HARFORD COUNTY NAACP PRESS CONFERENCE
TUESDAY FEBRUARY 24, 2009This press conference being held today by the Harford County Branch NAACP is to bring awareness to an incident that took place in one of our residential communities here in the City of Aberdeen. This incident involved members who are officers of the Aberdeen Police Department. We believe that the incident fell short of near riot conditions on February 11, 2009, which resulted in confrontation between several African American citizens and the Police and later having charges placed against them and jailed.
The NAACP and the citizens of Aberdeen commend our police department for the service that they give to the community and the majority of our police officers, regardless of race and gender continue to assist in making sure that Aberdeen becomes drug free and gang free. We continue to work with our Police Chief Randy Rudy and we want to continue a healthy relationship between the police and the citizens in all of our Aberdeen Communities.
However, acting on the behave of our African American residents in the Church Green area, we received many complaints of harassment, disrespect, foul language, kicking and stomping of one young lady, and other acts of brutal punishments coming from police officers. These are our officers who are paid by the tax payers to protect and defend us. These officers felt the need to take the law into their own hands by threats, viciously and forcefully attacking our African American citizens for no reason and certainly without justifiable cause.
We have made a request, that our Chief of Police seek an independent investigation of various officers of his department in reference to the incident Wednesday February 11, 2009. We also have requested under the Maryland Freedom of Information Act, copies of arrests records made by his officers on African Americans and copies for each officer in reference to the number of arrests. The Chief has assured us that he will request an investigation by the Sheriff Department of Harford County. We also will be requesting that other complaints filed at the Aberdeen Police Department be investigated where it involves certain officers.
We stand strong to our commitment in assuring that our African American citizens and others are treated fairly and that their will be no violation of their civil rights. As of Thursday February 12, 2009, the Nations oldest civil rights organization became 100 years old, and yet we continue to see prejudice toward people of color and other minorities.
The Harford County Municipal Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 128, which represents Aberdeen police officers, reacted quickly with a statement of its own questioning why the NAACP would hold a press conference on the matter before the internal investigation has been completed:
February 24, 2009
The Harford County Municipal Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge 128, who represents the men and woman serving with the Aberdeen, Bel Air, and Havre de Grace Police Departments understands that the local chapter of the NAACP held a press conference today regarding an incident that occurred in the City of Aberdeen this month at Boys and Girls Club.
It’s our understanding that the incident is being investigated by the Harford County Sheriff’s Office Internal Affairs Unit and the results have not yet been concluded or made available. Therefore, it concerns the lodge that the NAACP would hold such a press conference condemning the actions of the officers on the date in questions.
This lodge will continue to support the mission of the Aberdeen Police Department and its highly trained dedicated police officers.
Sincerely,
Jason Neidig
Vice President
Sgt. David Betz, public information officer for the Harford County Sheriff’s Office, would confirm only that Aberdeen police Chief Randy Rudy had requested the agency conduct an investigation into the matter.
“I can tell you that our agency is conducting an internal investigation as requested by Chief Rudy,” Betz wrote in an email.
Unbelievable says
I did a quick search on Judiciary case search on the so called victim from the WBAL story. All I can say is WOW. Wonder if the NAACP or WBAL will issue apology’s when the investigation is cleared………..
K8lynn says
I watched this entire incident from my front porch… I was outside playing w/ my son when it happened and from what I could tell, JR (the officer in question) was totally in the wrong. I’ve also heard rumors that he beat up a pregnant woman… Clearly something should’ve been done.
Lance says
I call bullshit on you. Four of the five have plead guilty already. The other, Troy, hasn’t because he only wants to do 90 days in jail and not 12 months. These people have admitted they are wrong. The whole incident is on tape. If you say the officer is wrong, then you are condoning criminal acts. That just means you don’t know right from wrong!! You heard rumors he beat up a pregnant woman (LOL), give me a break, what crackhead told you that. Bet if you heard that there was free money at city hall you would show up. Another story I call BULLSHIT on you!!!! What should be done, is that the people who make the east side unsafe from the people who are trying to prosper, should be tossed over to Iraq and they can act like terrorists over there and not in there own neighborhood!!! Keep your BS to yourself unless you know the facts!!
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
Sorry I missed that town meeting,I would have recommended officer Adkin’s for and award for his loyal service in reduceing crime in the aberdeen area.
RichieC says
Does anyone know of the INCEDENT ? According to the NAACP this seems to be a spontaneous attack on citizens by police. I am curious to see what this is all about…I may have another comment as I put the pieces together. One cannot wonder if this is more than a spontaneous attack by police…”because they can”!
Go Dagger !
Steve says
Is it prejudice towards people of color, or prejudice towards someone who has over 30 items listed in case search and is currently serving a 3 year probation after being sentenced to 4 years in jail 2 years ago. Of course, all but a month or so was suspended.
Maybe the NAACP should hang out at the little shop where this incident occurred, which is neighbored by an elementary school and boys and girls club and give us a report on what they find.
Also, let’s not forget that this is the same shop that was tagged with threats against city officers last summer…
vietnam vet says
I personally Doubt our police officers. are out and about disrupting any one’s civil’s right’s. resisting arrest etc could be looked upon by the person as a personal attack.
If they had done what they had been asked, they would’nt be crying the blue’s.
Brenda says
Many years ago the NAACP made a fuss over an arrest in HDG and the boy in question turned around a short time later and murdered two people at WAWA in Aberdeen. I would think that the NAACP should maybe investigate these incidents a bit before making accusations. Complaints like this only stir up racial unrest and then they just disappear from the media when they turn out to be unfounded. This only leaves people with the opinion that the police were wrong in the situation, somehow the media and the NAACP never make the results public when the incident is unfounded. I am sure there are times when the incidents are a result of racial profiling, but let’s not assume that each and everytime that they are. The officer in question has been an officer for a long time in Aberdeen, I would think his reputation is much better than someone with a long record. As someone else said he is currently on probation. Let’s think a moment, if he doesn’t want to serve that original term then he must think of someway to show he wasn’t guilty. THAT”S IT ….Let’s call in the NAACP to cloud the issue.
It is time for the public to stand up and say ENOUGH! The criminalsl have more rights than the law abiding public and I for one am tired of it!!
vietnam vet says
Brenda our thought’s are running on the same line’s. Steve gave us a head’s up on this criminal. now the officer is going to carry a stigma around until the dust settles.
HDGReader says
I work in the neighborhood where this incident took place. The man in question is a fixture in the local police blotters and has an extensive criminal record, including alleged domestic violence. He should have never gotten out of prison. His sister, who was also charged, is no angel either. Apparently this entire family is no good. I’m sure he and his sister only took this to the NAACP because they figured they wouldn’t care about their criminal records, only that a police offer allegedly made racial slurs and used excessive force. Get the focus off their behavior, so all we care about is the officer’s behavior.
There is a history of gang members and other lowlifes constantly loitering and causing trouble in the neighborhood. We’ve had to chase people off our parking lot where I work from time to time, especially during the summer. The officer accused has been out to our property quite a few times to handle complaints. I have never seen him act out of turn, but that is just from my personal experience.
The problem in this neighborhood is that loiterers won’t take no for an answer because most of them have been in and out of jail. They know they won’t be behind bars for long and aren’t afraid of police action. It’s like we’re fighting a losing battle.
Al J Thong says
A couple of observations before any discussion about what actually happened. First of all I am a member of the NAACP and its been quite some time since a complaint of this kind has been filed. Under the past city administration, the Mayor attended several of our meetings and in fact hosted our organization at city hall for a special meeting. Keeping the lines of communication open goes a long way in sharing enough information to short stop problems like this from becoming filed complaints. And second, isn’t there a live camera feed aimed at that store and apartment complex? I know that there was and since it is bought and paid for why not continue its use? That area where the incident occurred has been one where numerous arrests and hundreds upon hundreds of calls for service have come in for the Aberdeen Police Department.
vietnam vet says
That area still atract’s low life’s. the only thing you can do is support the officers that came out for the call. I hope the Naacp can ”See” what is going on here. just another criminal trying to cause more trouble.
TheObserver says
Since Obama got elected the NAACP needs something meaningful to do. After all, since a person of color got “advanced” to the highest office in the land, elected by the people, what argument does the NAACP have in this Aberdeen case besides the fact that the person in question is guilty as hell. Come on people. Slap the officers on the wrist for getting emotions in the way, but don’t make them gunshy about doing their job.
In my opinion the NAACP would garnish a lot more respect if they showed support for civic organizations (especially before an investigation is completed) than contempt. Same deal with the New York POST cartoon….I would respect the organization much more if they just dismissed the cartoon as bad judgement rather than demand an apology and call for the cartoonist to be fired.
matt says
So, Al — what about this particular incident? As an African American (who lives in/near Aberdeen?) do you think the NAACP is taking the right approach? Are you suggesting that if the current administration talked to the local NAACP more, this complaint wouldn’t have been filed? And, do you think it’s ok for the NAACP to flatly accuse the APD of misconduct rather than just asking for an investigation and waiting for the results thereof?
Brian says
There is an update to the story with additional information on the initial incident:
The incident unfolded when Aberdeen Police Officer J.R. Adkins approached a man who was standing outside of a convenience store in Aberdeen. Adkins and the man, believed to be Troy Maye, had been engaged in previous encounters. Adkins asked him what he was doing and Troy Maye said he was waiting for his daughter.
A verbal altercation ensued, attracting the man’s sister, believed to be Trashel Maye, and female cousin, believed to be Jasmine Brooks. The officer ordered Troy Maye to go across the street, and he and his family members complied. Adkins then got into his cruiser and pulled across the street.
It’s unclear what happened next, but Adkins called for back up as he arrested Troy Maye. At least one of the two female family members asked why Troy Maye was being arrested and both of them were arrested.
The 19-year-old female, Brooks, was allegedly knocked down and kicked, although it’s unclear which officers were involved. At some point Brooks’ blouse was torn and she was arrested in her bra.
Jerome Foster, Vice President of the Harford County NAACP, was not an eyewitness, but said Brooks was “abused, assaulted and humiliated.”
The young woman’s brother, believed to be Deon Brooks-Anderson, who had appeared on the scene and witnessed his sister’s arrest, then allegedly threw a trash can at police officers and ended up arrested himself.
Sgt. Fred Budnick of the Aberdeen Police Department, would confirm only the rough details of the incident.
“We did make several arrest in the 100 block of [E. Bel Air Avenue] on the 11th, the arrested generated some concerns by the NAACP, the HCSo has been asked to review the incident,” he wrote in an email.
According to Budnick, in that Feb. 11 incident, Troy Maye, 29, of E. Bel Air Avenue was charged with 2nd degree assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. Three others were charged with 2nd degree assault, resisting arrest, hindering a police officer and disorderly conduct. They include Trashel Maye, 26, of E. Bel Air Avenue, Deon Brooks-Anderson, 18, of East Bel Air Avenue, and Jasmine Brooks, 19, of Perryood Drive.
RWinger says
Unlike the NAACP I will reserve judgement until AFTER an investigation has been completed with documented findings and documented sanctions should any wrong doing have been disclosed. Al is correct, the area is under camera and, according to one of Aberdeen’s finest with the same coffee needs as me, the incident was caught on tape including a mad rush of “citizens” from the surrounding area to join in on an attack on a officer that was being assaulted on camera. I would think that the footage will come into play.
I have a hard time understanding the method, or at least the word choices by NAACP persons, coming down on officers before an investigation has been completed. I find it ironic that an entity founded on equality, due process, and fairness jumps to an immediate conclusion that the officers were wrong. Those arrested will have their day in court, although I suspect that prior convictions are an indication that their credible testimony may be suspect, nonetheless they will have their day in court. They are also well within their rights to file a complaint. I only hope that the officers are given the same respect in having a fair and impartial review of the incident and that the officers (should the complainant’s motives be suspect) are able to file civil suit for slander. Those interviewed made specific allegations on camera and then to have the news station state the officers name (Channel 13 I believe), that officer if not guilty, needs to seek damages.
Again. not jumping to any conclusions, but there are two sides to this one and I think that the NAACP jumped the gun just a tad and crediblity is an issue.
Steve says
Since Foster is keen to make these accusations without being an eyewitness, maybe he will go on record as a character witness for the defendants. He seems to only believe their side of the story.
After all, the defendant could have just wanted to discuss with Officer Adkins the time he pulled him over last year and charged him with DUI, driving on suspended license, consuming alcohol while driving, and possession of a cds other than marijuana.
vietnam vet says
I think it’s apparent. it’s not a white on black issue. the man in question had a criminal back ground. the officer had every right’ to question what he was doing.
emt9091 says
well all i can say to the maye family shut up you live in a dump you hustle to make ends meet, i have seen you my friend in front of the shop doin your hand offs, your criminal records are out of this world and i dont feel sorry for you period. there is a school and a boys and girls club little kids lives are at stake over there and you pethetic fools sell your drugs, and get your butts kicked by the police good im glad, if a black officer had done this you would have done the same thing, you can get your hair braided drive nice cars we support you tax payers support you, your lippy and disrespectful if you didnt break the law they wouldnt pick at you. but you chose to be dumb i am mortified that the naacp is supporting such nonsense and i am going to call them and speak my mind once they see what kind of “family” the mayes are and there i hope they dump your pethetic case, martin luther king and rosa parkes didnt do what they did so you idiots can sell drugs, and do what ever the hell you want in to get out of trouble you scream race. please we need more cops like jr adkins, go home and cry to the naacp i hope you all enjoyed your visit to jail let this be a lesson learned how someone could get on public tv and do what they did makes me laugh it just makes you look dumber and dumber it was probably them who spay painted the side of the store cowards, lazy ungreatful disrespectful cowards, i dont support drug dealers and criminals neither should the naacp and your kids are goin to grow up thinkin this is acceptable behavior get a job a real job GO APD AND ALL ITS OFFICERS IM GLAD THEY TOOK YOU OUT AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IF YOU PEOPLE DONT GET YOUR CRAP TOGETHER COP HATERS THATS ALL THEY ARE KARMA IT WILL GET YOU OR IS IT ALREADY
vietnam vet says
Some time back on the Dagger, there were some issue’s about the camera’s rather or not they were up and operateing? it certainly would’nt surprise me to see a gang bang in that area.
I worked it for many years. I thought it would improve. but apparently it has not.
RichieC says
2 words…….Tawana Brawley.
Go Dagger !
RWinger says
EMT: Don’t let emotions cloud facts. The NAACP is already doing that. You do bring up some points so I did a liitle checking. As for Troy, pushing 30, he has a history of not paying his bills nor taking care of his babies. He is not very credible to say the least.The 2002 conviction for DUI, the 2003 convictions for didsordely conduct, DUI, and drug possession with intent to distribute, and the 2008 conviction for for driving revoked paint the picture of a criminal who has a problem with alcohol, authority, and cannot be believed (that drug conviction impeaches any testimony). Forget the pending case for driving suspended and revoked (some people just don’t think rules apply to them), what stands out is the 2006 stet for drugs and assault, the 2008 stet for disorderly (I wonder if the state’s attorney will reopen these), and what is troubling is the 2007 conviction for assault that resulted in 3 years probation with a 2008 conviction for drugs that has 2 years probation. If “The System” worked, the 2007 assault conviction would have caused the 2006 stet to be re-opened as would the 2008 drug conviction. I smell a deal cutter there. That 2003 drug conviction should have prevented a probation on the 2008 conviction but deals are deals and judges know best (sometimes). Why the 2008 conviction didn’t violate the probation on the 2007 conviction escapes me. Troy should have been in jail plain and simple. He just illustrates that the system isn’t racially bias because here is a man of color walking the streets who, by simple court rules and procedures, should have been serving time. I would be neglectful if I didn’t take notice that prior convictions that resulted in incarceration and a period of probation upon release are chock full of probation violations. The red flag should have been sent up the flagpole in 2007 and at worst Troy should have been sitting in a cell.
Perhaps the NAACP will now DEMAND an investigation as to how this man was actually out walking the streets. If the courts did their job and probation did theirs (nothing to suggest that they didn’t), how could this man be walking the streets. This incident would never have taken place. Right or wrong the police wouldn’t have had to deal with him, his family wouldn’t have let emotions cloud judgement (based upon charges filed and a finding of probable cause), and the “liitle children” would not have witnessed this at the Boys and Girls Club.
Funny how it looks like the State of Maryland, through poor sentencing, has simply let down Troy and his family, the little children, and Aberdeen. In fact Troy has let Troy down because his past demonstrates that he has done everything within his power to be a ward of the state through the corrections system and he has failed…….or at least the system has.
vietnam vet says
Now Now we know these dead beat Dad’s are commonly’ released by the court’s so they can support there children. apparently’ the judges probation office’s do not do any checking up on there where about’s.
I was in court. last week listening, to the lie’s these dead beats tell
Tired says
I have some info about this incident. My mother in law works at the boys and girls club and called me right after it happened. It is my understanding that this happened just inside the club. Yes this Maye guy is no good!!!!! And his family may be also but…..JR was harrassing him and carried it into the club. The excessive force was uncalled for. JR strung this guy up by the neck and a whole lot of agression was witnessed by the children and the adults in the club. From what I was told camera phones were going so most of this should be recorded and or on film. There is a proper way to conduct police buisiness and this incident was not handled well at all.
RWinger says
Tired: Please ask your mother in law what an adult (with a criminal history like his) is doing inside the Boys and Girls Club, certainly not a mentoring program I hope. If he ran in to the club unwelcomed he’s trespassing and if he ran in to elude an officer his eluding is a resisting mechanism.
If, and it’s a huge if, Maye is just conducting legal business at the Boys and Girls Club and the officer pounces on him, then the police department has a huge problem on their hands and the officer has an even bigger problem. Maye doesn’t explain it like that so I don’t know if that is his contention.
Tired says
He was picking up his niece and nephew who he picks up from the boys and girls club everyday.
Don’t get me wrong rwinger this guy is trouble. However these kids should not have seen what the officers did.
JR may be a good officer but his tactics leave a lot to be desired. I’ve seen him in action and “robo cop” comes to mind. Excessive force is quite the norm for him.
EMT9091 says
im glad the guy got strung up im sorry it was in front of kids im glad JR harrasses criminals in the reason it ran into the club is because big bad mr maye thought the police wouldnt follow him boo whoo JR is a damn good cop they all have there bad sides but they are sick and tired of the same bull if anyone has a police scanner listen to it just the other day i heard a call that i died laughing, some retarded person called 911 to report a district court LETTER delievered to the wrong address the best part about this the post office was a block down from where they were LAZY comman sense you take it to the post office and drop it in the box duh why do the police need to be involved. maybe like i said if mr maye wasnt seen doin is hand offs by many people and actually did what he was supposed to he wouldnt be center of attention. ida beat the hell out of all of them and sent them home crying boo whoo and for all the retards who jumped in this isnt high school its the law, you got arressted serves you right. if my family was being jumped by a civilian then hell yeah id kick your a$$ but not the police why would you want a record oh thats right you scream RACE. COLOR IS JUST A WORD PEOPLE IF YOU WERE TO CUT EACH OTHER OPEN AND EXAM EACH OTHER WE ARE ALL THE SAME ON THE INSIDE, WE BLEED THE SAME COLOR AND BREATH THE SAME AI
EMT9091 says
robo cop and excessive force may be the answer have you seen how they are spit on and how the cops get followed home and there houses shot up im a child of a police officer my house was shot up twice by a drug dealer and a woman beater if i had walked in my room just 2secs before i did i could have been killed. maybe kickin some sense into these people is what they need there parents didnt obviously teach them anything or beat sense into them.
EMT9091 says
maybe and this is going to sound wrong i know and im sorry if i offend people but just maybe these kids see this in they wont want that kind of lifestyle for themselves and then to it could make me see a different side such as the cop really hurt him etc but regardless that side of town is a huge problem, lil kids are around there i drive over there sometimes and see lil ones walking home by themselves i mean god i just wanna shake people where are there heads anymore, its so sad that people have to act this way i mean the world as we know it is messed up right now people are loosing everything they have worked for there loosing jobs for the love of god cant people get a grip
Brenda says
This is really much simpler than folks are making it. There are signs posted both on the market and the boys & girls club that say “NO LOITERING ENFORCED BY POLICE”. If he was with his daughter at the market and she is 9 she should have been supervised INSIDE the market. And if he was picking up his neice and nephew at the boys and girls club he should have been INSIDE getting them. The fact of the matter is if my children were in the boys & girls I would want the police to question why a druggie was hanging around!!! Any parent worthy of having children would!!!
vietnam vet says
Tired your stiring up a stink’ maybe he’s picking up where s fred left off ? JR is well known in the aberdeen area. his tactic’s are well known. the least a mount of force is exerted as resisting arrest, which in turn require’s a bit more force.
I have no doubt the criminal was putting on a real show. for those who were watching.
Go JR support your aberdeen police.
RWinger says
Tired: Thank you for clearing that up. The Boys and Girls Club is on the other side of the street than Sid’s Market. Maye had no business at Sid’s if he was picking children up at the Boys and Girls Club. The initial contact appears to have been at Sid’s and carried over to the Boys and Girls Club. I Maye was going to be arrested then why not stop and submit to arrest. If the arrest was illegal then he has a nice civil case, does he do that, no, by his own admission, he walks away. If he was being detained and was not allowed to leave, simply walking away is indeed a resisting of arrest. The question that comes into play is if the initial arrest is legal. That is for the courts to decide, not Maye, nor Adkins, nor the NAACP, but a judge in a court of law being presented with legal arguement. The same judges that have been very nice to Mr. Maye when handing out probations that he, under the law, may not have been entitled too.
If Troy Maye is in any type of control in this situation, he should have been in control of his emotions and complied, for the children’s sake. I think that all can agree that this did not happen. If Officer Adkins is in any type of control in this situation any confrontation in front of children or escalation would not happen. If a person violently or passively resists the control span is taken away from the officer. There was a loss of control by both parties, Adkins failing to control his detainee and Maye failing to control his emotions and/ or actions in front of the children.
This is an incident between and officer and a suspect, how come three other family members, who apparently cannot master self control, decide to enter into the equation. I will stand by my contention that this incident would not have taken place, for the chioldren’s sake, had the courts not let down the children and saw fit that Mr. Maye be Inmate Maye.
BTW, I’m glad to see that the NAACP jumped up to condemn those that spray painted death threats to the police on the wall at this same market. I’m glad to see that the NAACP is quick to jump up and condemn members of the community that refuse to read or adhear to posted signs regarding loitering. I’m glad to see that the NAACP is oranizationally strong enough not to jump the gun with demands and threats and has all of the facts in hand prior to conducting a press conference…….OOOPS. If race relations were strained, and I don’t see where they were, but if they were, let’s all thank the NAACP for bring some gasoline to the party.
Unbelievable says
Just an opinion, but take away the aggressive policing and you have what Edgewood has turned into. Brenda- you are absolutely 100% correct. Good post.
Wow says
That’s funny Tired, because I was there too. I didn’t see any excessive force used. What I saw were the people mentioned attacking police officers…and the metal trash can was not only thrown at an officer, it hit that officer with enough force to dent the large METAL trash can. The employees of the Boys and Girls club were no better than the rest of the crowd (which numbered between between 60-80 people) which surrounded the officers, closing in on them. I truely believe if the officers had not put out an emergency call and other officers responded quickly, that crowd would have attacked them as well. By the way, one of the females who was being arrested ran into the Boys and Girls club to hide. Another officer (not Adkins) ran in and got her. The officers were hit and scratched by those charged.
Unbelievable says
Tired- you said “However these kids should not have seen what the officers did.” What should the officer have done? Put his arm around him, tell him it was going to be okay and pretty please walk outside nice and quitely? I do think its funny just how naive a majority of the public is on what happens on a daily basis in the real world. I think the whole police/public relationship is a vicious circle. Allot of cops have attitude problems and seem like major A$$holes and we wonder why. But how many times have you heard somebody say I hate cops? How many songs have you heard talk about hating cops and killing cops? With that much hatred I think I would be a little jaded too.
Justice? says
I don’t care if you’re purple if you break the law than you deserve to be arrested, and if you resist arrest then prepare for the force necessary for the arrest.
I have grown kids and if they break the law which praise God they haven’t, I would not take up for them and would want them to be punished. Otherwise how are they to learn what’s right or what’s wrong?
I don’t see color when I look at someone, I see a good person or a bad one…
vietnam vet says
I don’t think the police department. and or officer’s are A–s” hole’s I might think so if they gave me a ticket. if and when they ever do. I had it comeing. as for Robo cop he has been gone for quite a while.
it’s true J.R has a nickname. but the man has a rotten job. with a lot of stress. if it’s comeing down too a fight. I prefer him on my side. if there was any’ wrong doing I’am sure there are plenty of photo’s to show. who started what.
Any employee’s found in the fray’ from boy’s & girl’s club would not have a job
Lance Hersh says
I’ll post my name on here so that anyone who has any questions, they can contact me directly. My name is Lance Hersh a local business owner in Aberdeen and have been here in Aberdeen since 1990. I know of Troy Maye and the cancers like him that have plaugued this community for years. I also support the boys and girls clubs of Harford County. It is a shame that cancer like Troy Maye is able to pick up children (his own or relatives) at the Boys and Girls Club. Other arrangements should have been made through his family to pick these children up. He is not a resposible enough adult to be supervising children of his own or of any family member.
As for the NAACP, it is an oraganization that I believe should exist to help with advancement of African Americans, but there are to many times they get involved in situations that they do not have proper information. How do I know this, because I’m an example of it. On February 25, 2004 two African American kids broke into my place of business and proceeded to destroy several showcases and steal jewelry out of them. They left a path of destruction in the aftermath at a tune of $18,450. I was approached by the Attorney of the Harford Branch of the NAACP and was outright accused of lying to the police that the two individuals that broke in did not steal anything. This Attorney was believing what there clients said before they ever saw the video survaliance tapes of the incedent. Once they saw the tapes, they then agreed that there clients did break in, but stole only empty displays. Wow did that story change when items from my store were recovered at there house. Not once did I recieve and apology, instead I was asked if I would in court forgive those who broke in and stole from me so they could get a reduced sentence.
Lets move forward in time to December 23, 2004 when a cab driver in Edgewood has shot and killed 2 days before Christmas working a second job to provide his family with extra Christmas presents. That night a father of 7 children and husband to a wife of 16 years lost his life. These two felonies were Wayne Bond and Darrell Miller. The same two criminals that broke into my store. After spending approxiamately 3 months in detention center, they were let out. This was there gang intation. This is a prime example of the NAACP sticking there foot in there mouth without doing there due duligence of finding out the facts. Forget the apology to me, what about the apology to the children who will never see there father and a wife left ot explain to there children that the system and NAACP let them down. Yes, this victum was African American.
As for the Aberdeen Police Department, if it wasn’t for them it would be like Baltimore City around here. These officers go out there and put there life on the line everyday and never ask for a thank you. The officer is in question, Officer J.R. Adkins, I can only say that he is out there making this community safer everyday. Without officers like him, Aberdeen would not be able to make the great strides it has in the past five years. He is an officer that has been in Aberdeen for over 20 years. That says alot about character when he could leave and work somewhere else. He cares about the Aberdeen community, a hell of alot more than most of the citizens do. Officers like him (and there are alot of them at APD) should be embraced and thanked or all of us will have Troy Maye’s hanging out on our corners causing trouble. Just do a judical search and you can see all the charges that have been brought on him in the past.
Thank You Officer Adkins for making Aberdeen a safer community.
Lance Hersh says
Quick note, after looking at the Poice Reports that I have pulled out of file for restitution, which I will never see, I see that Officer Adkins and Officer Clark were the ones who arrested these criminals in this case. Thanks again APD!
vietnam vet says
I was the victim of a burglary while working away from home. I can only say the aberdeen officers did and excellent job apprehending the culprit’s in a matter of hour’s.
All the item’s were recovered. again my step son became under the watch full eye of a pedophile. aberdeen p.d. was notified. they did and excellent job cracking his cover of which he went to the extremes to hide his identity. I can’t thank just one. I thank the intire aberdeen p.d. for being there fore the family.
HDGReader says
I believe the reason Troy Maye picks up his children at the Boys & Girls Club is that it is a public place. Due to his lengthy criminal history and violent nature, picking up the children in an isolated location isn’t as safe. But after this incident, that sure has changed. If he can act up at a place that’s supposed to be a haven for underpriveledged and latckey kids, he’d act up anywhere.
I have to give props to the Aberdeen officers. Many times they’ve been called out to my place of work not for severe criminal activity, but loitering complaints and petty tenant disputes. They could take their sweet time, but they’re usually here within five minutes. Our office has a good working relationship with them. I know every police force has bad apples, but those ones shouldn’t cloud our opinion of all officers. It’s a hard job, and a job that doesn’t command respect and authority anymore.
Thanks to these officers, I feel safe walking to the train station after work to catch the bus home. Troy Maye has a lot of nerve crying to the NAACP given his reputation as a common thug.
Brenda says
If your job worked like a police officers job you might become somewhat disillusioned too! If your job was to pick up a box and put it on a shelf and someone came along and put the box back on the floor everytime you put it on the shelf ….how would you feel? The judicial system keeps putting the box (the criminal) back. I know that I personally wouldn’t last long in this job! I personally would want to bust some chops, which of course is why I would never pass the psychological test to become an officer. Most police officers are extremely tolerant but like every workplace has a bad apple (doctor, lawyer, Mcdonalds worker etc). But very few careers have the work place stresses that police do. They are held to a higher standard, yet they are human just like the rest of us. Next time you are around an officer try showing respect instead of contempt, show compassion. I can not tell you how many times I have heard parents of small children that are acting up that the officer was going to get them and arrest them. How are you to teach children that cops are there to help them teaching them that they are out to get them. We need to teach them by example that police are there to help and to be respected. Unlike Mr Maye and his family have been teaching the children at the boys and girls club. JR Atkins could have certainly have gone to another agency and made more money, yet for 20 years he has dedicated himself to helping those who live in Aberdeen, Try thanking him and the others there to help you. The Naacp should be ashamed!!!
Jerry says
Good evening. I too, like Mr. Hersh (post #35) am a business owner and resident of the City.
I cannot agree more with most all of the comments on this website.
I will not mention the officer’s by name however I too have had the pleasure of dealing and interacting with most of the Aberdeen Police force. Hard working, dedicated, motivated HUMAN BEINGS.
I will say this about this whole ordeal that I have had to hear about the last two days. To the NAACP, Don’t throw stones at glass houses. To the officers involved, Keep your head high, and butt covered. To all the men and woman of law enforcement, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ABERDEEN AND HARFORD COUNTY SAFE!
Kate says
My experience with the local NAACP is unfortunately that the people involved in that organization are more concerned about themselves and getting publicity, than they are for the “colored people” they claim to be advocating for.
Maybe someone in Aberdeen could educate me, but what do they do to help the community or the struggling adolescents in that area? This incident happened in the Boys and Girls Club so are they involved with that center and making a contribution to the betterment of the community.
My frustration is that they just like to muck things up and don’t really care about the core issue(s) which seems to be the crimes being committed by individuals who happen to be “colored.” I certainly am not condoning police brutality, but there does seem to be a pervasive attitude in this country wherein criminals are no longer afraid of police. It is scary…
g maurice says
Yeah, I want to send my kid to the Boys and Girls Club. Not, that should be a safe place for kids to go, not a place were criminals can stand around. Waiting for his kid or not when he got there he should have picked his kid up and left. Kudos for the Aberdeen PD for trying to keep their city safe.
lyle says
This says something
0901SP012382006 Maye, Troy E #88170 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Domestic Violence CLOSE 08/07/2006
090100023462001 Maye, Troy E Jr Defendant Bel-Air District Court CONT ACTIVE 05/21/2001
090100021962002 Maye, Troy E Defendant Bel-Air District Court CONT ACTIVE 04/19/2002
0901SP004252006 Maye, Troy E 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Domestic Violence CLOSE 03/25/2006
12P06000140 Maye, Troy E 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Paternity Reopened/Active 07/11/2006 Harford County O C S E, et al vs Troy E Maye
1R00042561 Maye, Troy E 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 07/02/2004
1R00042561 Maye, Troy E Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 07/02/2004
6R00033137 Maye, Troy E 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 07/21/2002
000000AH20147 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 01/25/2001
000000EB84322 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Traffic Closed 01/26/2008
000000EB86635 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 01/01/2009
000000EB86636 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 01/01/2009
000000EB86637 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 01/01/2009
000000FN44760 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Cecil County District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 11/23/2008
000000FN44761 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Cecil County District Court Traffic ACTIVE CASE 11/23/2008
0R00049756 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 11/17/2005
0R00067683 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR ACTIVE 02/12/2009
12C03002174 Maye, Troy Eugene Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Forfeiture Closed/Inactive 08/14/2003 James M Jewell vs $800.00 U.S. Currency, et al
12K01000445 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Indictment Closed/Inactive 04/10/2001 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K01001179 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Motor Vehicle Closed/Inactive 10/03/2001 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K02000637 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Motor Vehicle Closed/Inactive 05/02/2002 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K04001290 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Information Closed/Inactive 08/31/2004 State Of Maryland vs Troy E Maye
12K05001494 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Criminal Closed/Inactive 08/19/2005 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K05001614 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Information Closed/Inactive 09/08/2005 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K06000218 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Criminal Closed/Inactive 02/06/2006 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K07001894 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Criminal Closed/Inactive 10/16/2007 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12K08000590 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Jury Trial Criminal Closed/Inactive 04/08/2008 State Of Maryland vs Troy Eugene Maye
12U07000223 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Harford County Circuit Court Uniform Interstate Family Support Act Closed/Inactive 09/18/2007 Central Registry Child Support Enforce, et al vs Troy E Maye
1R00042561 Maye, Troy Eugene Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 07/02/2004
2R00045845 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 03/01/2005
2R00061756 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 01/26/2008
3R00027338 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 03/29/2001
4R00062983 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 05/27/2008
5R00015923 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 07/18/1998
5R00059134 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 08/02/2007
6R00056706 Maye, Troy Eugene 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court CR Closed 02/20/2007
0901SP001622007 Maye, Troy 07/1979 Defendant Bel-Air District Court Domestic Violence CLOSE 01/26/2007
vietnam vet says
It look’s to me like we should bring charges’ against the judges for letting the criminal’s run free.
lyle says
posted on the sun
“went to my favorite site in the world, MD Judiciary Case Search. In 4/06, TRASHEL petitioned the court to change the name of her child, to wit
“Ordered that the name of Daikwon Shyliq Gandy be and the same is changed to Daikwon Shyliq Maye.”
In 1999, custody issues were petitioned with “baby daddy” who had his address listed as 18800 Roxbury Rd Hagerstown, MD 21746. Those in the know recognize that as Md.
Correctional Training Center
LeAndre Gandy (baby daddy) has his own phone book listing in the Case Search (handgun, burglary, attempted murder, Engage In Riot etc.)
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jack says
Some of the people commenting on this seem to be going about it in a reactionary way. I’ve noticed that with a lot of people, the words NAACP just flip a switch in their brain, and they immediately assume that it’s bunk. With the limited information that we all have on this case, someone immediately assuming that the officers were 100% in the right is baseless. Using epithets like “baby daddy” and “thug”, disregarding the obvious racial overtones, just belie the biases going into the calculus here. To blindly accept either side’s perspective of the story is at best intellectual laziness, and at worst the result of some ulterior motive. As previous commenters have said, police officers are human beings. That means they’re just as capable of error as anyone else.
PS: The list of 30 charges is crap, most of them are traffic violations, and they date back to the 70s. This man isn’t some big time gang-banger.
Steve says
Jack: just for clarification, none of the charges date back to the 70’s. The 1979 you see is his year of birth.
RWinger says
Jack, the man was born in 1979. If you ever do a case search you would see this. I would refer you to post #19 where I took the time to research and show GUILTY convictions. It is important becase it shows a pattern that the courts recognize during testimony and it also shows that the courts erred, Troy Maye should have been in jail at the time of this incident.
The police are not always right, the police get it wrong and so does the NAACP. Here is an organization that has brought charges before that have been unfounded. here is an organization that was founded for “colored” persons to include American Indian and Latino BUT only caters to African Americans (a bit racist one could argue), and here is an organization that calls a press conference and DEMANDS that an officer not receive due process but be removed from his job (a violation of the officer’s rights afforded in this state). This is the organization that says if the Harford County (third party) investigation finds nothing then they are going federal. That is a threat and a scare tactic. If the police are that bad, then why not go federally right away? Are Jesse and Al coming to town to march?
lyle says
seven out of 30 does not constitute most, and nice try in focusing on one word and not the information displayed
vietnam vet says
our police officers. have a desire to return home to there family’s the way they left them. un injured. there is no reason in the world why you’ can not comply to a simple request. unless your deaf & dumb.
It’ s clear J.R. knew this guy’s background from prior arrest. I would have questioned him as to his activity’s in the area he was found standing. he chose the course of avent’s by choseing not too comply.
Lance Hersh says
*No personal attacks please*
I am at the end of my rope with people driving down the City of Aberdeen and the Officers who protect it. The citizens who live in this City deserve better than someone like you spouting off at the mouth. You probably live in Bel Air and don’t care a thing about Aberdeen. It’s a great city ith a few bad eggs (Troy Maye) and as a Citizen and business owner of this City I’m not going to let you stand around and insult it.
Lance Hersh
443-528-3046
vietnam vet says
I may clear up and issue here.I DO NOT personally no .J.R. he’s just another officer I have observed doing his JOB! very much like Rick Denu he is a very good officer doing a tough job.
And he’s not alone. remember this when your sleeping. help is a phone call away.
Al J Thong says
Ever since the end of the second world war and the down sizing of the military in the Aberdeen area the city was left with an abundance of what was supposed to be temporary government housing. Add to Badwin Manor and Swan Meadows and a couple of large section 8 complexes and you find you have a city that is almost 50% low income or assisted living rentals. The potential exists every day in Aberdeen for crimes to be comitted that are the subject of nightmares. Not the calls for service that settle the dispute between neighbors and a loud stereo but those kinds of calls involving drugs, gangs and weapons. If I ever have to make one of those calls I pray JR Adkins or someone just like him shows up to protect me and my family. The citizens of Aberdeen are lucky to have Officer Adkins who constantly puts his own safety and well being on the line to make the streets safer for us all.
Lance Hersh says
Part of my last post was deleted, I very rarely attack someone and I guess I stepped over the line. Sorry editor. To Jack, you should learn how to read the files before you open up your mouth and stick your foot in it just like the NAACP did in this case just like you. See post #51 for the rest of my comment. That is directed at you and you can read between the lines on what I really wanted to say to you.
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
Good to hear from you’ AL J THONG we do not desire to turn this in to a racist issue. I think S.FRED would speak for J.R. atkin’s he was often seen as S.fred’s back up. these officers are public servant’s.
they are constantly under observation by the general public. includeing my self as I go about my daily work. a tough no bull officer. I would’nt want him after me and I’am his elder.
jack says
Lance: Please let me know where I “stand around and insult” the city of Aberdeen or its police department. The closest thing I can find to that is myself saying that police officers are human beings, and therefore capable of error. I’m sorry if this offended you.
I’d also appreciate it if you’d refrain from labeling a call for moderation in the face of limited information as an attack on an entire city full of people. Sounds like I hit a nerve. I’m terribly sorry for disagreeing with you on the internet.
And yes, I should have read the file more carefully. Strike the PS from my post, the rest still stands. For clarification, I’m not accepting either side’s account fully at this point, to do so would be a rush to judgment. The NAACP certainly has a shady history, but to say that an authority figure has never embellished to portray itself in a more positive light is ludicrous. Let’s wait until the facts stream in before we start pointing fingers because of a certain 5 letter word. I don’t know either man, so it would be unfair of me to slap a label on either one at this point.
R. Donny says
It is my understanding that Troy Maye is serving weekends at the Harford County detention center. He checks in on Fridays and is released on Sundays. Does the NAACP pick him up? Does the NAACP represent drug dealers, alcoholics, and just plain old criminals?
R. Donny says
Veitnam Vet – you are so on point!!
Lance Hersh says
Jack,
You sound like a reasonable person. But if you track the history of the NAACP’s involvement in Aberdeen, you find they only come around when they can exploit a situation such as this. Where is the NAACP in Aberdeen when it comes to community functions and the Boys and Girls Clubs in Aberdeen. Where are they when African Americans need help from house fires to finding the homeless shelter here in Aberdeen? NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!! As an organization, I believe that they are a very valuable asset to the community, they just don’t have the right people running the Harford County Chapter. Also, i’m not racing to judgement on my feelings on this situation. The NAACP has had it out for Officer Adkins for years because he arrests criminals, some which are African American. Mrs. Smith has made it a personel vendita to try to cause this officer and others to lose there jobs.
I’m not sure what 5 letter word your talking about. No where in this story has the APD try to embellish this story, only the NAACP has. I know Officer Adkins on a personal level and I know of Troy Maye from being nothing but trouble for this community for years. So, I can make some judgement on this situation. We should also wait to the video comes out, which I don’t know why the Mayor has not made a push to make this public to protect the image of a Police Department that is being tarnished everyday that the City’s Leader doesn’t stand up for it. If you don’t know either person or are not interested in protecting the Integrity of this City or the NAACP, why are you even blogging on here. Because I have a feeling that you don’t care one way or the other. You are just trying to stir the pot even more. I have made it a goal in my mind to unite this community one way or another regardless of the many Troy Maye’s we have out there, and you obvoiusly don’t know which side of the fence you want to be on. Thats if you even live in Aberdeen.
Lance Hersh
EMT9091 says
R DONNY THATS FUNNY WONDER IF HE DOES GET BUSED IN BY NAACP LOL IM GLAD THAT EVERYONE IS STANDING UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND STANDING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING THE ABERDEEN POLICE DEPT THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT RIGHT NOW THESE DAMNED LAW BREAKERS AND PEOPLE LIKE MR MAYE IM SICK OF THEM, THEY PRETTY MUCH GET AWAY WITH MURDER AROUND HER. MAYBE IF WE PICK AT THEM THE WAY THEY DO US THEYLL GET THE HELL UP OUTTA HERE GO POP A TENT OUT WEST AND LIVE OFF THE LAND.SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR STANDING TOGETHER. I SUPPORT THE APD ALL THE WAY. SO THANK YOU TO BRENDA, LANCE HERSH AND EVERYONE WHO LEFT GOOD MESSAGES. THE OFFICERS OF ABERDEEN DO A DAMN GOOD JOB KEEPEM MOVIN IS WHAT I SAY AND THATS WHAT THEY DO : ) THANKS APD
vietnam vet says
I will pass judgement, on the evidence. officer Adkin’s is and officer of the law well with in right’s to question mr mayes about his activity’s. mr may’s has chosen by his own chooseing to pursue a life of crime. that is apparent from his court record.
Another Brenda says
I’m glad to see that so many people are standing up for Officer Akins and the Aberdeen police department. Too often people sit back silently and let things go on that are just plain wrong! And this cry of RACISM is absolutely ridiculous!!!
Instead of this being a case of people having absolute disregard for the law by not listening and complying with an officer (and then assaulting the officers), it has been reported as a story about an officer who is a racist and goes around picking on African American people.
I know Officer Adkins personally and he is definately not a racist! He actually cares about the Aberdeen community and it’s citizens. He takes his job seriously and he has no tolerance for criminals such as Troy Maye. He and his fellow officers put their lives on the line every single day. How do you think they and their loved ones feel every time that they leave home to go on duty……that one day they may not make it home?
This morning I wrote WJZ t.v. a complaint. One of the things I voiced was that they should have never reported his name. They have now possibly put his life and his family at risk. They owe him and the police department a public apology. They didn’t investigate all of the facts before reporting. I hope all of you who have written comments here in defense of Officer Adkins and the APD will do the same. Maybe if WJZ gets bombarded with complaints it will ignite a fire under their ass. All we can do is try!!!
My next complaint will be going to this so called NAACP president. In reading Lance Hersh’s and the other Brenda’s stories, sounds like she needs to be investigated. Thanks to every one supporting Officer Adkins and the APD!
vietnam vet says
Another Brenda. I agree it’s time the people stood up and said enough is enough. I’am a supporter of the death penalty. if the crime warrant’s it. if we do not support our officers.
we are faceing edgewood condition’s. we have a police department that is minutes away. edgewood has sub station operated by the sheriff’s department
Support your Aberdeen police.
EMT9091 says
see everyone is standing up for he right people, APD they are keeping us from turning into another edgewood thank you sooooo much
Local says
I have known Officer Adkins for about 20 years. He is an honest and hard working ethical person. He is the type of Officer who will go into places other Officers are afraid of. He has a strong sense of right and wrong and he can always be counted on to do the right thing.
I find it hard to believe that the administration of the police department or any of the City officials would not publicly come out and support him.
HIRAM LODGEPOLE says
maybe some one will understand what i’m writing about…maybe not , but it needs saying…
crime affects all of us, white, black, brown and yellow…when crime occurs in some neighborhoods, no one saw anything…we can’t say the folks don’t cooperate, but they don’t, they don’t help the cops solve the trouble…
then, the cop is doing his duty, and he’s a racist…and time to drag in the NAACP…funny that Al Shapton missed out on a ride down from NYC to Aberdeen to run his mouth a mite…
point is, with the country in the mess it’s in, why not just drop the petty bullshit and get together and work together just for a little while, in our neighborhoods, our schools, our community…
no one should be disprespected, not the police, not the citizenry…
but these “Tempests In A Teapot”…are overdone…
why were the police in Aberdeen called out in the first place…they respond, they do their job…if they are late, they get complaints…if they are on time, they are racists…for the Love of Saint Pete…shut up…behave…then no one will have to call the police and cause all of this alleged ‘insulting’ in the first place….
A long gone policeman in Havre de Grace years ago had a solution when it came to crowds of people acting up on the streets…he walked up to the loudest mouth running…and knocked the hell out of him…funny, it worked then, and it can work now..
vietnam vet says
Hiram my thought’s exactly. a little head busting can go a long way. but then we would be resorting to gestapo tactic’s.that would be un american. as for post #65
I’am sure our police department is standing behind officer Adkin’s. to publicly support him. would only in courage favoritism.
bob says
As i sit and read these comments my 18 year old son is currently doing his ( ride along ) with the Anne Arundel County Police Department . I grew up in Aberdeen and have sinced moved away but have family that still reside there . As a teen i found myself frequently in some of the “BAD’ neighborhoods in the city and personally know what happens in these places.I found myself on the opposite side of the law and had a personal hatred towards the local police for ‘harrasing ‘me .Twenty years later im glad the police’ harrased ‘me and kicked me in my ass a time or two .Criminals do not deserve to be treated with respect , they obviously dont respect anyone including the good people that live in their neighborhoods where they sell their drugs . These officers had the oppurtunity to pursue other careers in there life , careers that might have been a little more rewarding and alot less stressful . But instead they go to work doing a job that alot of us would not do and have an organization like the NAACP trying to have them fired !!!!!! If i was to go back to one of these neighborhoods today im certain that i would be racially targeted by the people who live there , who can i call ??
HIRAM LODGEPOLE says
sooner or late the ones who know what is going on will speak up…it’s the white folks i know who roll over, try not to offend anyone…the blacks, some of them, are the ones always making it a ‘black and white’ thing…it’s over fellas….time to wake up america…act right, live right, work,
lots of my friends, black and white, know this is true…the greatest respect for anyone who works…and the ones who don’t work and spend time whining, or running their mouth on T.V….need an ass =-busting…
and soon, my dear friends, it will come to that…I thank God in Heaven for police…sure, I don’t want to get pulled over, or arrested…but ask Bob Chance who got arrested…doesn’t he want the police as well…?
sure he does…we all do…and this horseshit, criminals, whining that a police man used a bad word…
shut up
Lance Hersh says
There comes a time in life where you you have to decide what path in life you have to take. Those paths are influniced by your family, the people you choose to be around, and the community that you live in. If your family can not take responsiblity for there own actions and teach respect and set good examples for their children, thats an issue that crumbles the society and community that you live in. When our children are constantly harresed by the thugs and drug dealers until they convince the children that they are better off choosing the path of destruction by showing them how its cool to be a banger, we then blame society because these children didn’t have a chance and we shouldn’t punish them because they never were given the proper chance.
When it finally comes to a point that police intervention is required, then part of the society complains that police have gone to far. This problems were not created overnight. They happened over time. Family, friends, and the people and oragnizations that have been set up in community’s have failed the children. It’s a broken system and the people who are here to protect us are the ones who get blamed. One day the blamers will look in the mirror and see images of failure and incompitance. I support organizations such as the Boys and Girls Clubs of Harford County (especially Aberdeen) and at many other ethnic and minor groups out there that focus making future of the children in our community better. Anyone on who knows me and has ever approached me for help or donations can tell you that I will pour my heartand soul into anything that helps children that are under privilaged and are fighting an uphill battle.
The reason I state the comments above, is that the NAACP, which I believe is a great organization, has failed the community in Aberdeen, Edgewood and Havre De Grace. I believe that the NAACP should do an eternal investigation on Zilpha Smith, current President of Harford County Chapter, to determine if she has been criminally negligent in her practices of running the chapter here in Harford County. Most people out there don’t know this, but 70% of the African American children are academically inelagible for sports activities at the high school level. This brought to the NAACP’s attention by a local delegate that has a long history of supporting the children in his district. The issue seems to have to do with the way that the schools have gone to 4 periods a day and having classes every other day. This delegate told Mrs. Smith that this puts the children that don’t have consistant family support at home at a disadvantage. Mrs. Smith has never addressed this issue or come to the community’s of troubled youth to try to rally families to support there children. However, she has no problems coming to the support of a thug when he gets a well overdue beat down while breaking the law by the officers who are trying to protect the children that are hanging on by a thread to choose the right path in society.
All of know that our actions have consequences, but these consequences should not be limited to those who have the audaceity to hide behind the law that they continuely to break on a daily basis.
I ask everone out there to contact your local police departments (APD and HDGPD) by mail and email to show your support for them. I also ask everyone out there to contact the National level of the NAACP to do an investigation on Mrs. Zilpha Smith. All the members of the NAACP should question the motives of Mrs. Smith and stand up for there organization and there community.
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
I have worked 30 plus years in the ”not so nice neighborhood’s” of aberdeen I have watched the children grow. some flourish some do not.the choice is theres after a point. being ”poor” does not breed bad behavior.
Elaine says
Along the line of Lance’s comments, the NAACP was instrumental last legislative session in thwarting an elected school board bill based on their assertion that Harford County was racist and unwillingly to vote for African Americans. Even though we now have a President of mixed race and an African American judge who won countywide support in her office, they are still contending that it is necessary that they have set asides. Very insulting to all of the people who have moved past this and want to go forward not backward.
Apparently they are not concerned about Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Farms (Free and Reduced Meals), or whomever. Nor do they seem overly concerned about the fact that the majority of students who are failing in Harford County schools are African American males.
The local NAACP has plenty of opportunities to contribute to the community by helping the citizens they allegedly advocate for. Even when their contentions are refuted by facts, they seem to want to continue down a destructive path.
vietnam vet says
Thank you’ Elaine for your comment’s. no if’s and maybe’s the Naacp need’s to take a look at who’s minding there affairs. it’s time they starting showing some responsible leader ship.
I’am sure if the incident. had not involded a police officer.we would have not heard a thing.
Dave Yensan says
I have been reading this blog all week and have told myself not to enter into this. Lance, Jerry, Vet Elaine RWinger and the rest of the true supporters of decency, thanks for your input. I have known JR for a very long time and support him one hundred percent. If someone were breaking into my house JR is the guy I would want on the scene. He is fearless, effective and not afraid to wade in. The entire incident is on a digital recording. I suspect that the truth will emerge and JR will be vindicated once again. Has it occurred to any of you that the NAACP has attempted to lynch this fine officer? Why do the folk in the historic district want to destroy him? Could it be that he refuses to take any crap and politically correct?
I am a life member of the NAACP and believe in what they are supposed to do. All the emotion aside, what we have here is one man who has his own agenda and believes that screaming race will make him Harford County’s own Jesse and Al rolled into one. I am not going to throw any rocks here but believe that Mrs. Smith got pushed into doing something that her membership would have advised against. I am saddened to see this happen. We have undone three or four years of hard work in one poorly thought through press conference. I will be taking this up with her and the rest of the executive board. My suggestion will be to remove the hate filled loud mouth from the board. That my friends is when we discover just how solid the NAACP wants to be. It may go back to being the NAACCP (National Association for the Advancement of Crooked Colored People.
vietnam vet says
Dave good to hear from you’ it’s sad our police officers have to go un noticed until some one stir’s up a ”stink”. these officer’s would’nt know me even if they were to stop me and give a me a ”ticket”
Does not change the fact. they deserve our respect. again Dave we the people thank you for speaking. for those who don’t know. DAVE is a former Aberdeen councilman. & vietnam veteran.
Gary Owen & Sem-per fi
Dagger Reader says
Like Dave I’ve read these comments all week long and this entire deal is just dumb. You’ve got some criminal people crying “Wolf” to get the heat off of themselves. I know JR just like some of you and I definately want him fighting crime here in Aberdeen. He is certainly not a racist. And I happen to know that he’s [*please no personal info – thanks *]. That doesn’t make sense. The truth will come out once some heat is put on the .naacp
A J Thong says
To Lance and the other supporters of Officer Adkins; here’s the problem. Even though this complaint is bullshit, the complaint and ensuing report go into his permanent file. Someone, somewhere in a leadership position within the APD needs to make sure that that this kind of complaint ends up on a spool in the mens room and not in a good mans jacket.
Brenda says
Yanno…..I wonder where the NAACP was when the 2 homeless women were arrested in Havre de Grace or for the 8+years they froze on that street corner. They hurt no one standing on the street corner, nor in my personal opinion did they break the law. I personally was glad that the police interceded since no one else seemed to care. Where was the NAACP then? Why weren’t they complaining that their rights were violated? Why weren’t they trying to help them? Again, they seem to help the worthless and ignore those who truly needed help.
vietnam vet says
The Naacp has lost it’s fizzle. it responds when a stink is stirred. post # 74 pretty well sum’s it up.
EMT9091 says
AH BRENDA THAT WAS A GOOD ONE YEAH WHERE WERE THEY ??? I SUPPORT ALL THE OFFICERS OF APD I KNOW ALOT OF THEM PERSONALLY AND I WOULD STAND TO SAY THEY ARE EXCELLENT EXAMPLES TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE YOUNG ONES WHO THINK A LIFE OF CRIME IS THE WAY SO GO APD YOUR DOIN A FINE FINE JOB
Shelly says
You people are retarded looking up people’s records. What does that have someone’s history have to do with what occurred on that day? None of you were there so you need to keep your mouths closed. ANd how low can you sink looking up the girls record and commenting on her son. That has nothing to do with the situation. None of y’all live in the area and sees what goes on. Why do you think the two low life cops got death threats last year, certainly not because they are awesome police officers. They abused their powers and after years of it justice will be served!!!!!
vietnam vet says
Shelly I can assure you the Judge, is going to take a look at there prior record’s resisting arrest is not abuse of power. the officer in Question has been and officer of aberdeen. for a very’ long time
I Don’t think it’s his intention, or our’s for him to leave the force. if there had not been a problem. there would not have been and arrest.
Dave Yensan says
Retarded is to think it’s ok to ignore the fact that a useless piece of humanity is continuing to dirty the gene pool. Those two officers are doing a great job. Of course they are the target of insults and slander. They are taking away the livelihood of the scum.
Annie says
Shelly,
Regardless of how you feel please do not use the “R” word in a derogatory manner please. It’s very offense. If you have time look up HB 20, Rosa’s Law, that’s in the Senate now.
Al J Thong says
Gotta question for you Shelly. Think Rihanna should forget about the ass whipping she took from Chris Brown and brace herself for another one or take a look at his previous record (or look in the mirror) and approach with caution?
EMT9091 says
I SEE SHELLY MUST BE A LOVEY NEIGHBOR AND MUST HAVE BEEN OFF THAT DAY AND WATCHED THE WHOLE THING UNFOLD, MAYBE YOUD LIKE TO CARRY A GUN AND TELL YOUR NEIGHBORLY DRUG DEALERS NOT TO DO WHAT THEY DO DAY AFTER DAY, AND HONEY THERE PUBLIC RECORDS EDUCATE YOURSELF AND ID WATCH HOW YOU THROW AROUND THE DEATH THREATS SWEETHEART THE NAACP CAN KISS MY ASS AND SO CAN YOU
EMT9091 says
ITS MINDLESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP TO HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IF YOUR FAMILY RECIEVED DEATH THREATS, UH THE NAACP AND Y’ALLS NEIGHBORHOOD IS MAKING ALL THE HARD WORK MARTIN LUTHER KING AND ROSA PARKS DID LOOK LIKE IT WAS A WASTE YOU ABUSE IT TO THE FULLEST STUPID CRIMINALS THROWIN THE RACE OUT THERE LIKE ITS GOING TO SAVE YOU SIT ON YOUR PORCH AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LET THE ABERDEEN POLICE DO THERE JOB THEY NEED TO RELOCATE ALL OF “Y’ALL”, GET RID OF THE DAMNED BRICK COMPLEX AND MOVE “Y’ALL” THE HELL OUT SO THE KIDS AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB CAN REST AT PIECE ID LIKE TO MOVE “Y’ALL” OUT MYSELF, YOU THINK YOUR SO SPECIAL, BOO WHOO THEY LOOKED UP HIS RECORD THATS 18MILES LONG, BOO WHOO THEY ARRESTED HIM BOO WHOO, THERE PICKIN ON HIM, CRY ME A RIVER GET JOBS OH BUT YOU CANT CUZ YOUR CRIMINAL RECORD IS LONGER THAN YOUR FREAKIN IQ PLEASE SHELLY GET A LIFE, KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT ITS OBVIOUS MAYBE THE APD SHOULD INVESTIGATE YOU FOR SPRAY PAINTING THE RIP’S UP ON THE WALL, HMMM
bill says
Here we go again. NAACP to the rescue. They don’t know what really happened, but they will ruin a police officers reputation and possibly career over hearsay. People who don’t understand the law, and break the law on a continuous basis somehow seem shocked when they find themselves getting arrested. I don’t get it. I know what that neighborhood is like, and I support the officers attempts to make it a better place.
The Communicator says
The NAACP has unfortunately given themselves the reputation of “crying wolf.” They do not thoroughly investigate the facts, jump to conclusions and subsequently create an environment of racial tension, where I think they believe they are helping. If they were more objective and did not just come to a person’s defense based only on the color of their skin, the NAACP would have more credibility. If they came to the defense of anyone who had their civil rights violated, instead of only African Americans, the NAACP would be viewed more seriously.
This is a double edged sword. The African American Community wants to be viewed as “equals” with the rest of society. That will never happen as long as there are “quotas”, affirmative action and unobjective organizations that only judge people based on their skin color. They will only continue to be viewed as inferior citizens who need a helping hand.
I have often argued that the “reverends” Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are nothing more than hate mongers who want anything but racial harmony. Racial harmony would put them out of business. I think they have hurt racial relations far more than they have helped.
I judge a person based on their actions, behavior, morals, etc. I am not and I believe most of society are not racists. I think that was illustrated by the election of President Obama. My children have never heard me use a racial slur because I don’t use them. They have friends of many different ethinic backgrounds. I believe this is the world in which we live.
I get so tired of the hate mongers creating something out of nothing to benefit and advance their agenda. If this person interfered with a police office, threw a grabage can and violated other laws, well, maybe this person is not a very good person and they should be arrested. If someone has a “rap sheet” pages long, I would rather that person be in jail, regardless of their color for one simple reason – they obviosly do not have anything productive to offer society.
Dave Yensan says
All that has been said and implied here is great information. Now the challenge is to try to make something positive come out of this. Lance Hersh and I have self designated ourselves to try to right a myriad of wrongs. We will be meeting with the Harford County Chapter of the NAACP at their executive board meeting and look at ways to stop the mud slinging and name calling. We will report on our activities and progress.
I have been looking into getting the in-car audio/video systems for our police cars. They are fairly expensive and not in any budget for the City. A small group of us are setting up a project to raise the money, privately, to get these systems installed. You have seen these on the national news, where the patrolman is at a car window of the car in front and you can hear his and the other driver’s conversations clearly. When we have the project up and running, I would hope that Dagger readers will step up to the plate and make contributions to this one. When you think about it, a system like this protects both the police and the public. At a very minimum it will stop the God awful he said she said crap.
Stay tuned!
vietnam vet says
Well it’s a great idea. but maybe as a fund raiser. we could start by trying to find some city or town. stupid enough to buy that expensive’ camera system that is doing ”Nothing” setting in city hall.
Dave Yensan says
Oh Vet, don’t fall for that. That camera system is proving its worth every week. Check with the real cops in town and they’ll tell you how good it is.
Al J Thong says
Right on Vet- While we’re at it lets get rid of the cameras at the ATM’s, inside the banks, the super markets , most road intersections and the parking lot at Walmart.
I suggest to you that the now disabled Aberdeen camera system is much like a condom…….they never work at all locked up in a drawer.
It could just be that the only honest broker in this thread is the recording of this incident by a camera from that system you would sell to buy a different camera system.
vietnam vet says
I Did’nt mention buying a different camera system. I’am simply saying’ there was a lot of tax payers money spent on a camera system. that no one seem’s to know if it’s working.
If it’s useless we need to find some body to buy it.
Brenda says
You do not need to do a fundraiser, you just need a good administration that has an effective grant writer. There is grants out there to pay for this type of thing. Aside from that, I think it’s time for the NAACP to put their money where their mouth is. What better way to assure that the thugs they are trying to protect are treated with kid gloves than for them to buy cameras for the patrol cars!!!!
Years ago when a similar incident occurred on Girard St. in Havre de Grace and the NAACP and greedy lawyers became involved suing the police departments and officers, the cameras proved invaluable. Those cameras made 3 groups of people eat their words and trust me it wasn’t the police agencies or officers that were eating their words. But again the NAACP didn’t publicly eat those words, leaving some people to still believe there was an abuse of power by those officers. Not only did the video support the officers, but so did the audio!! I certainly didn’t expect the thugs or lawyers to publicly acknowledge that the thugs were trying to stir civil unrest. However, an organization that has a mission like the NAACP should want to right wrongs even if the wronged is a police officer.
vietnam vet says
Brenda I take it your from Haver De Grace. Welcome to Aberdeen. we are and authorized city ? that has never been able to expand. constant in fighting among the council.
Nothing is accomplished, Short of picking on the police officer’s who are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.
Hopefully next Election. the Mayor & council will be removed. IF the camera was working? it may have caught the incident. & settle the issue.
sandi says
So, about this whole camera stuff. The cameras do work. Whether they caught this incident is another story. They move, so they dont catch all angles at all times. Oh and btw someone mentioned that it was inside the Boys and Girls club. They dont have cameras in there so no, there would be no video if thats where it happened.
Why is it so hard to believe the several officers there? I just for the life of me cant understand the logic in believing a known drug dealer over several very intellegent, hard working officers but thats just me.
vietnam vet says
Sandi I think your right. the issue started at the old S&S market ending in or a round the boy’s and girl’s club.where a camera is very unlikely to see the avent the man is a criminal it’s a known fact.
Support our police. or we will be faceing the issue’s of edgewood.
Dave Yensan says
They caught the entire thing!
vietnam vet says
Thank you Dave.
Alice says
I bet all you people making comments are white and probably racist yourselves. Just because you a police officer doesn’t mean that you can just real people any way you want. You need to come over in this area and see what really goes down with those two officers. If it was a black officer attacking a white family you would of said he should of been fired. If these officers are so innocent why do they have pending lawsuits against them? You would never understand unless you was black and live in this neighborhood. So until then you all need to shut your mouths.
Alice says
emt9091
Shut your mouth you sound really dumb!!! You don’t even know those people. And for your information they all have jobs one of them indeed is about to become a nurse. Get ya facts right before you run your mouth. Maybe they shoud come tear down your house you loser. You people think that everyone that lives on or near East Bel Air Avenue are drug dealers or gang bangers if you look in the police blotter there are more people in Bel Air that are being arrested for drugs.. So what do you have to say about that?????
Dave Yensan says
Alice;
Thank you for sharing your enlightened view of the world. Using the phrase or word racist certainly helps to get your point across. If I understand you correctly, since I am white, I am not entitled to an opinion on this subject. I further glean from your treatise that if I do talk or think about this subject, someone has the right to come tear down my house.
Do you have any idea whatsoever is really going on? There are a handful of drug dealers and gang bangers who are running an illegal business on the streets in your neighborhood and the police who are trying to make things better for the 98% who are decent people, are the bad guys? You deserve the community you make for yourself. The only problem is that the problems spread like a cancer and those nasty racist white honkey no good rich bastards react because they don’t want that trash element anywhere in the community.
One other thought for you Alice; Calling a person stupid or dumb is not a very good way of getting your point across.
Lance Hersh says
Alice,
I hope you will be at the nieborhood clean up this weekend on Saturday (April 4th) that starts at 9:45 at Washington Park. It will cover Washington Park, the old Baldwin Manor and end up at teh Boys and Girls Club at Noon. There is a Cookout at the Boys and Girls club sponsored by the Aberdeen Police Department there this Saturday. My name is Lance Hersh, please try to find me. I would like to talk to you about some of your concerns about the east side and how the current administration in our Aberdeen Government has done there best to make sure that you stay “on your side of the tracks”. Yes I am white, and yes I do care. I have had a business in Aberdeen for almost 20 years now. Without the support of the community for the Police there will be this continued distrust factor between the citizens and the Police department. These wounds can not be healed overnight, but the healing and tearing down of barriers has to start somewhere. I am a strong supporter of the Police Department, but I’m also a strong supporter of the community also. Just ask anyone who has ever come into our business and needed a donation or time donated to a certain organization or charity. I say yes and help out as much as possible. Lets not make this a black and white issue, thats make it a community issue that when worked together on both sides, solutions can be found for the issues at hand.
Don’t follow the tones such as the NAACP, KKK and ACLU. They want this prejudce barrier to exist, because if it didn’t they would be out of a job. There are other ways of getting things done instead of public press conferences and out cries from the citizens and department when investigations are still in process. By the way, if you check civil and criminal record, there are no pending lawsuits on these officers, but the groups that go out and attack these officers and citizens in general have had hundreds of lawsuits agaginst them and have paid out tens of millions of dollars for wrong doing for slander and defamation of character and even physical harm.
Alice, plese come and help clean up this community on Saturday. Daniel White, a very concerned and enthisiastic young man has set up this clean up and it will be a step in the right direction. I would be happy to talk with you at any time.
Lance Hersh
Steve says
Here is the poster for the community cleanup Lance is referring to:
vietnam vet says
Dave Yenson & S fred spent time in the swan meadow’s area ( church green ) area. trying to bring that long neglected area back in too society. the property that was donated for the boy’s & girl’s club was donated by white people.
Swan meadow’s was a private owned rental property. when it changed hand’s it was for the better of the community.
It’s now 90% percent home owner’s. of all races. it’s time to learn to get along !
Tired says
Alice? Troy does not have a job. He’s trash and anyone that lives on this side of town knows it. This was not police brutality because of color. It was police brutality because of scum. I personally think excessive force was used, but it pisses me off that this is becoming a race issue.
HDGReader says
Alice, Troy is a drug dealer. He’s spent more time in jail than out. As soon as he was released after his latest altercation two years ago, he went right back to being caught with drugs. The salt of the earth he ain’t. Why you do you choose to defend someone like this?
I work on East Bel Air Avenue five days a week. I know there are decent people in the neighborhood and I know there are lowlifes. It’s like that in every neighborhood. If you are tired with how your community is portrayed, perhaps you should actually step up and do something to make it more positive, instead of playing the tiresome race card and making threats. Otherwise, you just sound like all the other lowlifes around here.
EMT9091 says
ALICE
call me stupid and dumb all you want, you dont bother me, i have been called worse. theres an ammendment called freedom of speech, i agree with lance hersch, you should show up and help clean up, i will be there, gladly lending a hand to the aberdeen police officers. you dont know where i live and all you want to do is come tare my house down, please, lets be adults here. its not my fault people choose to do wrong, and then cry wolf for a bail out. im not frightened by mindless threats, im not afraid of running in to anyone of you, i drive by that dump of a place everyday of my life, for those who are home all day, it should be alot neater over there. and if everyone has such wonderful jobs why not move out. i do not believe that there are just drugs on the west bel air side they are everywhere but this is a community i live in, why do i care about bel air, or edgewood, i live here i pay taxes here. so what if i am white im as white as they come, i have african american family memebers, you think everyone is always pickin on the african americans, i have heard the african americans call there own race the hated name, so please save it okay. get off your high horses, Rosa Parkes and Martin Luther King didnt stand up for you to act like so disrespectful. so call me a dumb white honkie, it doesnt hurt my feelings what hurts my feelings is you sittin there bitchin instead of usin your head, and helpin to fix things. everyone is always quick to blame police and there have been times where they were in the wrong, come out and do something about it, or you and everyone else can sit over there on saturday and talk about the ones who are doing something!!! have a nice day Alice
g maurice says
Alice
I know several people that live in that area of town. Good hard working people that want to keep that area a decent place to live. I’m sorry as for Mr Maye he a piece of trash that brings your community down. No I wasn’t there when all this came down. But I would like to Think the Officers were doing their jobs and trying to keep your community clean and respectful. If it means a drug dealer (who refused to leave the area and was selling his crap in ther area) getting what he deserves because he was fighting with the law then so be it. He should not have been in the area around kids and a School selling his disease! Drugs isn’t a black thing or a white thing sadly now it’s now a way of life for some
P.S. You go Dave!
Jerry T says
Alice – It is obvious that you are predijust and possibly racist. I have no time for human beings like you who try and make everything in this world a “black v. white” issue.
I too know many people in the City (which incompases) the WEST, CENTRAL, and EAST side. Many are hard working citizens. The problem with citizens like you is you’re afraid to stand up…rather you believe what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right. If you think the shift (or life) of a law enforcement officer is so easy, go to the police academy, if you can get in. Call the thousands of surving family members whos loved ones have been killed in the line of duty because they were intimindated by the possiblity of a complaint and HUGED A THUG. The THUG took advantage of the Mr. Nice Cop and shot him or her. I would say you need to become educated before you speak because you sure do not write like you do.
EMT9091 says
go Jerry T, Id like to see ALICE go through the police academy I would love for her to go and talk to Beebes family, or Sams family, or Chesneys family. i am not a racist and i dont care what color your skin is, i care that your gettin off your ass and doin what your supposed to and raising your kids to do the same. the african american cops at the APD are called racist name by black aftrican american criminals, why would they do this, maybe because they’re educated and did something with their lives??? why would you call your own race that, you think oh this is how i have to live i have no other way its bull crap its called your lazy and dont want to work to get out and break the cycle, drug abuse and selling of drugs is not a black, white, hispanic, chinese, or polish thing its every race and culture thing. okay so cut the crap would you. for the love of jesus, and as far as mayes sister he needs to be more supportive of her, thats what that sounds like, im so tired of the same old song and dance im so tired of people downin the police that do good and overlookin the few dirty cops, maybe you should go to law school, that way you can better point out who is goin to win here, then maybe when you break the law you’ll understand the punishment you recieve, can you imagine if the officers had been jumped by all the nosey people who stepped out to jump in, can you imagine what the out come would have been then, they have families too ya know, kids, wives, so how would that have worked if something were to have happened to them would you have felt different ???? ill pray for you use your head
B . williams says
To all you people with your comments… don’t run your mouths if you don’t know what your talking about. I am white and I seen the whole incident unfold. What those police did was wrong. And if you would of seen it yourself you wouldn’t be coming out of your mouths like you are. I say if you wasn’t there then shut up. I don’t care what kind of record someone has that doesn’t justify police brutality. None of those people were loitering or being disorderly. Like I said I saw the entire incident. If you seen the tape of what happened you all would be eating your words. And besides this incident I seen JR and Reiber in action plenty of times they love to take the law into their own hands. I am all for good policeman that do their jobs well but I will never stand behind crooked ones!!
Dave Yensan says
B. You wrote “And besides this incident I seen JR and Reiber in action plenty of times they love to take the law into their own hands.” I just wonder what you think the police are supposed to do. I kind of thought taking the law into their own hands was their job. What was the first thing you saw JR do that day and exactly where were the two of them?
Lance Hersh says
B williams
You did not see the tape, I don’t think so, so stop telling outright lies. Troy was told three times to stop loitering, and directly disobeyed an officers order. There is a sign in front of Sids that says no liotering. Then when the officer tried to apprehend the suspect he tried to use the Boys and Girls club as a safe haven. These officers put there lives in danger everyday and you expect them to just lay down and be disrespected by walking away when a citizen was given a direct order by a law enforcement officer.
What does it say about Mr. Maye to put those children in danger by using the Boys and Girls club as a safe haven. How do you know he wasn’t desperate enough or high enough to do harm or take a child hostage. Wouldn’t put it past him. He doesn’t mind selling crack to 12 year olds. B Williams, this is not a white or black issue, this is a issue of justice and who’s to say that you are not a bad appple to just hooping on here to run your mouth to stir up trouble. Why don’t you identify yourself B Williams instead of hiding behind a fake name. If you have Officers JR and Reiber in action many times before that tells me 3 things.
1. You are a criminal and get arrested plenty of times and should be in jail and not on the computer. How else would you have seen “these officers in action many of times”. Sounds like your a criminal yourself.
or
2. You work at the Boys and Girls Club and are tryin to save your job because for years you have done nothing for the Aberdeen Boys and Girls club except let the criminals in and use it as a safe haven. If thats the case I have a feeling you are on your way out.
or
3. You are part of the local government or the police force that is trying to advance yourself by hooping on the bandwagon to get reelected or are a sit around officer that is jealous that you don’t have enough balls do do the job that these officers do.
Whatever your position is I would love for you to clarify it to all the readers out there. Unlike yourself, I post my name and I’m at your service to talk about this issue and some of the real issuess Aberdeen has. Where are the citizens when things in this city are being done to hold it back from growth and bettering the city. Easy to hoop on an issue that you can turn it into a race issue. Thats what you did by starting out by saying “I’m White”. The NAACP isnt even callin this a race issue anymore once they learned the facts. I know that for a fact, because I was at there executive meeting three weeks ago to try to calm relations in the community and tear down the bairers that this whole situation has created. See people like you just don’t get it. You can offer up cmplaints without trying to create solutions. And if you don’t know a solution, then get on here and say I saw this incident unfold, and this is my perception of what I saw, and would like some input from others, such as the officers on what was going through there mind when the incident was happening. Put yourself in there shoes. And what can we do as a community to prevent these incidents from happening again. Not the “Black Gentlemans” shoes.
B Williams, where were you during the community cleanup last Saturday and cookout the Aberdeen Officers had for the Kids at the Aberdeen Boys and Girls Club. Easy to try to point out something such as race to stir emotions and instead of talking about more productive things that are going on in the community. Guess that would be to boring for you to talk about. Your comments have no substance and should be ignored on this sight as just another uninformed, iggnorant citizen of this community, thats even if you live here. My number is posted on this message board in a previous comment, and if you would like to contact me, you are more than welcome. I’m a citizen who whats a great Aberdeen, starting with the east side. Funny how this city council for a majority doesn’t even mention the east side at meetings and are about to vote against a BRAC development zone for the east side. Council Presdient Hiob is for it and so is council person Kupperman. Council woman Young and Elliot are against it and so is the Mayor. Don’t they want this area to improve. Just remember, if you live on the east side reconize the names of the people who are trying to help you. Don’t worry, I will inform those who don’t know. As Jim Richardson said “This is Aberdeens chance, and they are going to blow it”
So everyone make sure they question these people you voted in why they can’t do what is right for this city.
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
The Aberdeen council Has ignored the east side of Aberdeen for years Ruth elliott did put out some effort for new side walk’s years ago. theres decent people liveing there who want a crime free neighbor hood. as the caption of this BLOG STATED. ” WEAK MAYOR ” Dave yenson & S. Fred were trying to bring change to that area.
Along with the officers of Aberdeen police. if you slept un disturbed last night thank a police officer. there working while you sleep.
Gary Owen & Sem-Per Fi
phedup says
Helton does what ever helps Helton. He is not a benevelent person. [EDIT: Tone it down].
B . williams says
Can u read I didn’t say I seen the tapes. I said I saw the incident with my own eyes. And Maye was not loitering you idiot he was waiting on his daughter to come out the store. The man was eating a bag of chips for goodness sakes. Waiting on your child is not loitering. So hush your mouth!! You don’t live in this area if you did you wouldn’t be saying nothing. Get your facts right before you start opening your mouth. I will say it once again if you wasn’t there then shut up!!
Lance Hersh says
I find that hard to believe since Maye has a barring letter from Sids and is not allowed on the property. What is your excuse for him when an officer gives him an order and he doesn’t follow it and runs into the boys and girls club. Did you follow him in there and watch the whole incident. Did you watch Officer Rieber get hit with the trash can. And last question, are you one of the ones causes plenty of problems in the area. Also I’m guessing you should have been given the same treatment, you must have been loitering to. Sids is a convince store not a chip eating hangout. Mr. Maye knew what he was getting into when he disobeyed a direct order from an officer.
The children at the boys and girls club are scared to walk past Mr. Maye and his cronies, and go out of there way to take the long way home if they are in a position that they have to walk past him. He has no business picking up his daughter or niece or anyone else up from the boys and girls club. He is not competent enough. If anyone in his family had any sense, they would keep him away from kids period. He has not made good life chioces and will continue to go down the wrong road in society unless he learns to respect the law and freedom this country gives us.
The probelm with your statements are that your judgement is in question when it is clear that you already have a problem with the Officers involved with this situation. You saw with your own eyes what you whated to see and interpurted the way only your mind is going to allow you, and that is the officers are wrong and civil rights where violated. What your eyes didn’t see is that there was a known criminal directly across the street from a community place that many children consider a second home. When the known criminal was given a direct order from an officer he ran into the boys and girls club and endangered many children. Same situation with two different perceptions.
You offer up many problems with community perception and Police perception without caring to offer any solution that could prevent this type of event to happen again. Instead of just telling people to shut up the whole time your on here, put some solutions and some important information on here that can help the community and not seperate it.
Lance Hersh
B . williams says
Lance shut up!! Can you read waiting on your child to come out the store is not loitering. I sure did see the trash can incident . Rieber had no business ripping the shirt off that young lady and kicking her in the face. He got what he deserved. They are crooked cops.
Erica S. says
Lance your are real ignorant to the fact that racism does still exist!! Aberdeen has some really good cops but those two are scum. Everyone knows it. Those cops hate blacks. They take advantage of their police powers. They are supposed to protect and serve not harass and assault people. Let’s paint you black and put you on that side and see how you get treated. Those people were walking away they complied I was there. What was the reason the cop JR followed them as they walked off. And I heard him call the one girl a black B#tc@. How do you justify that?
Erica S. says
The solution to the problem is to weed out the bad cops. I am all for cleaning up a community that is trouble. But there is a right way and a wrong way to do it..
Erica S. says
For your information Lance Maye is not barred from the store… Get your facts right before you open your mouth.
Taylor says
NO ONE WAS LOITERING THAT’S WHAT YOU ALL FAIL TO REALIZE!!!! THERES AREW OVER 50 PEOPLE THAT SEEN THIS INCIDENT… SO IF YOU WANT THE REAL STORY TAKE A WALK ON THIS SIDE… ASK THE RESIDENTS AROUND HERE SOME QUESTIONS AND YOU WILL GET THE REAL TRUTH.
Taylor says
WAS HE SUPPOSE TO LEAVE HIS CHILD AT THE STORE? OR BE A FATHER AND WAIT ON HER.
Lance Hersh says
50 people hanging out in front of a store is what I call a mob scene. Thats why so many officers had to be called in. WHY ARE 50 PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF A STORE!!!!!!!
I probably shouldn’t say this, [EDIT: Keep personal information out of the debate]. Keep playing the racecard and you will die an ignorant American. Taylor, what he just decided to be a father, WHEN??? What about a productive part of society. He must do that inbetween jail time.
Where are the residents when the drug dealers are on the corner, turning a blind eye. How do you expect the area to cleaned up if you are going to let these criminals (Black or White) walk around the area and not stand up to them? Like I said you all only point to one thing, racism and not looking at the whole picture.
Erica, what is your solution to clean up the area. Let the dealers run around doing whatever they want to do. Who do you think is going to clean up the area. Cops that risk there lives and continuely go after drug dealers, thats who. Not officers who drive by and waive. If it wasn’t for these officers, you wouldn’t go out on your front porch, unless you are part of the problem. This area will never clean up unless you step up and point out the problem. These problems don’t solve themselves. So like I said before, bring some solutions to the forefront with any suggestion that seems like it would work. You have to remember, admitting there is a problem is the first step in finding a solution. So if you want to just get on the computer, and run your mouth and not provide any insight, so be it. But you are talking to a deaf ear. I never said racism didn’t exist. But if everytime a white officer arrests an African American you cry racism, I’m sorry, thats racist also. Maybe you have a problem with white people in general. If I misspoke about Mr. Maye being barred from Sids, I apologized, but as of 2 Saturdays ago when I was in there he is now barred. So if wasn’t before, he is now.
B-Hard to argue with someone who knows it all. Maybe you can tell me who shot Kennedy, I assume you were there also. You shouldn’t even be on here, evertime you post you look dumber and dumber. (SHUT UP) LOL
Taylor- Lets ask the residents around there what they think is a solution to all the problems are on the east side. As much as they don’t want to admit it, they want those officers over there, thats what makes them safer. Maybe the police shouldn’t show up at all and we’ll see how you like things then. Remember if your going to productive in society, you have to be able to stand up on your own two feet and see through the easy excuses such as racial discrimination. If we can’t get past that, these barriers will never be torn down. If your not willing to take that step, you will argue about this for the next fifty years, while I will be out there trying bring people together. I have walked those streets before and talk to plenty of people. Most of the kids don’t even understand why they run from the officers, they just do it because everyone else does. Not a great way to start a childs life, by teaching them to run away from the people that are here to protect them.
Police doing there job is not racism. If you can’t get past that, you’ll never be able to move forward. Have you every approached these officers and tried to talk to them. Just simple conversation? Try it one day.
Lance Hersh
Taylor says
Lance first and foremost going to the store is not a crime. Second neither is waiting on your daughter. Third do you have a barr letter that states he is barred. NO you don’t because their isn’t one!! He was never barred. Stand behind those scum bags all you want. I was at the store and I was at the Boys and Girls club. They complied and walked away. The truth of the matter is that no one was loitering. You was not there to see what went on. You are truly clueless to the whole situation. You live off hear say!!!!
Taylor says
No 50 people came out who were concerned about their neighbors. That is not a crime. Everyone knows how those two scum bags are. *No personal attacks!*
Taylor says
This is not Baltimore. No one around here is afraid to go outside whether the police are around or not!!! Drug dealers are everywhere so what are you saying???
T. Combs says
He probably is JR’s father! LOL
T. Combs says
get it right the kids fear the police not the victims in this case.
Erica says
Why do I should I risk myself talking to those cops? I seen enough and heard enough. Last summer I watched JR grab a eleven year old boy off his bike by his neck?? I watched him assault a guy who just was walking down the street after getting off work. Tried to say he was a drug dealer. Is that what you call cleaning up a community?? Yall look at this side of town and label everyone as a drug dealer or a gang banger!
Rwinger says
Lance: You are running an uphill battle on this one. Perhaps some of these people who see everything can answer this one……..
A couple of days ago, Friday I believe, I was at my neighbors house and his wife had a scanner on. The APD was called to the market for 10 people pulling a girl across the lot and dragging her behind the store, the dispatcher called it a 10 something and a lot of different cars said that they were responding. Within minutes APD were on the scene and two different officers reported back to the dispatched that none of the locals wanted to get involved. Troy Maye gets arrested and there are suddenly all of these witnesses and experts on police procedure however, a woman is dragged by 10 people and they don’t want to get involved. They didn’t report that it didn’t happen, they apparently told the officers that they didn’t want to get involved.
Was this a gang beat down? If so, the residents on the east side ought to pray for more officers that are not afraid to get out of their cars and engage in keeping civility.
Was this a case of fear of retaliation? If so, the residents on the east side ought to pray for more officers that are not afraid to get out of their cars and engage in keeping civilty.
Was this a case of sheer appathy? If so, the residents need to pray for themselves and get priorities straight.
Troy Maye, who should have been in jail at the time for his probation violations, gets arrested and it’s like the Pope got taken out. A female is either beat down to get in a gang in broad daylight or was just outright assaulted in broad daylight and nobody gives a damn, they don’t want to get involved!!
Erica says
Maybe your mom can tell me who shot Kennedy
Erica says
Just because a fight endured doesnt mean that was a gang attack. *No personal attacks!*
Erica says
You think you are the expert in this case. What does that fight have to do with what happened with Maye. Maye didnt get arrested at the store either!! What happened there was those lil girls are just dumb and ignorant. Like I stated before I am all for cops that are here to make a difference.
Erica says
Rwinger you should be in jail for your dumb comments
Rwinger says
Erica: Using your own statement that you are all for cops that are there to make a difference and your obvious understanding that “those lil girls are just dumb and ignorant”, can you please enlighten me as to why NOT ONE PERSON wished to get involved and cooperate with the police? Better yet, can you enlighten me as to why NOT ONE PERSON wishes to stop those “lil girls” from being”just dumb and ignorant” and casting a shadow of negative perception over the neighborhood in question?
Rwinger says
“Rwinger you should be in jail for your dumb comments”
Now that is an intelligent response. Perhaps a little first amendment education, comments are protected under the first amendment and being jailed for them would be a violation under the US Constitution. Not withstanding, I don’t think that your comment was to evoke any claim agaist the first amendment but moreover, an attempt to add a facade of false humor to a fruitless and baseless claim made out of sheer frustration. I apparently struck a nerve.
Lance Hersh says
Taylor- Calling me a racist is like calling Martin Luther King white. If you ask anyone in the community about me they will tell you who I am and what I’m about. Thats why I donate so much money to local community organizations and time to projects(to all races and religions) and I’m positive alot of them YOU have benefited from directly.
Maybe you should read a few of the other posts I have put on here before you chimed in. The reason I say things on here is because I care about Aberdeen, not just parts, all of Aberdeen. I open the door for you to contact me on a personal level and I would be happy to talk with you about the situations that have occured and the problems that we face. I can’t change the past, be we can sure mold the future into something much brighter than it appears to be now.
On one of my earlier posts I listed my cell phone number and you are more than welcome to contact me as long as we can have a respectable non insulting conversation. Just not on Easter Day.
Have a great day.
Lance Hersh
Dave Yensan says
Rwinger, V Vet and Lance;
It is now obvious that this part of the dagger has been co opted by the same lunatic fringe element that took over a few other “protect the hoodlum” strings. B. Williams, Erica, Taylor, T. Combs et al have obviously decided to be part of the problem and will fight any solution. I saw a lot of this same attitude at the NAACP executive committee meeting and have therefor withdrawn any and all support for the historic district and the residents. It is a crying shame that incidents such as described by RWinger go on over and over in that part of town. So be it.
vietnam vet says
Well the east side just lost some support. that could have been a big help. I would suggest reduceing the police support & let them kill each other. Birds of a feather flock to gether.
Brenda says
Lance, Vet, Dave , RWinger et al;
You can’t have a battle of wits from an unarmed man or woman. So you guys may as well save your breath for those people that are armed than to waste it on the many unarmed ones on here 😉
peanut says
*No personal attacks!*
Lyle says
I agree the police should just stop any enforcement and wait till they are filing complaints about their family members being killed by the same gang banging drug dealers they are protecting. Or those same people can move to perrywood gardens and or Edgewood and live in a police free zone and sell or fight all they want without responsibility for their actions. Then life would be great. Erica or T combs I know a great realtors if you want to move away so there are no laws that pertain to anybody. I hear Al-Qaida is already taking up the water front down there so u better hurry up. Man I wish I could live my life without any responsibility for my actions. I mean, if I could just through trash cans at cops I would, but it’s illegal so I don’t, but then again I take responsibility for my actions. Oh and if I had caused problems in an area for years and the cops who worked hard to make it safe told me to leave, maybe I would take responsibility for my history of causing the problems in that area and walk away with out running my mouth across a street, oh wait isn’t causing a disturbance in a public place a crime, I guess not in a world where there is no responsibility for personal actions. Instead its become an acceptable defense for our society to blame everyone but the one’s responsible. Its JR’s Fault for telling a known drug dealer to leave a known drug spot. What was he thinking I mean he is only a cop what right does he have. And Its JR’s fault that Troy ran his mouth from across a street , and its JR’s fault that a trash can was thrown at the police. And its JR’s fault that Troy has been a problem in the area for years. And its JR’s fault that troy hasn’t worked a real job for any length of time, And its JR’s Fault that Troy hasn’t paid taxes probably ever in his life and pretty much just sits around all day getting high. And its JRs Fault that he choose a life of public service and they require him to go into the problem areas and enforce the laws, and pay taxes from his pay check that he earned from standing up to problems like Troy.
Your right Erica Jr is a scum bag in a world that promotes lack of self responsibility.
vietnam vet says
Lyle that was well spoken. and it’s JR’s fault these street vagrant’s did’nt get a proper education. and it’s FREE to those who are willing to listen & learn. troy was identified as a problem criminal. the officer had every right’ to question why he was loitering in a known drug area.
Erica says
*No personal attacks!*
Erica says
You all got your noses up in business that has nothing to do with any of y’all get a life.
Erica says
Lyle how do you know if he has a job or pays taxes. Shut up!!!! *No personal attacks!* I got my masters in nursing. So dont talk about education to me.
Erica says
*No personal attacks!*
Erica says
Lance never compare yourself to Martin Luther King!!!!
Lil B says
*No personal attacks!* Pay them no mind!!!
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Lance Hersh says
Erica-I invite you to contact me as well. You just don’t get it. I want to help. You can go ahead and put your insults on here. I commend you for having a masters in nursing, but that is not going to help what is going on now. If anything it should help you process your thoughts a little better not to get caught up in the bs written in some of this blog. And as far as me comparing myself to Martim Luther King, can’t you see satire when you read it. That comment wasn’t directed at you, it was towards Taylor who directly insulted me without knowing anything about me. Thats my response and I stand by it. The comment is correct in comparison to what was said about me.
So if you would like, contact me and we can discuss things in a more appropriate setting without insults like human beings. If not I’ll assume you are full of hot air and the only thing you will be using your nursing degree in is helping your neighbors that are lying in the road bleeding from the pain and punishment they inflict on each other.
To peanut, Lil pecker, B WilliamsTaylor, T puffy combs and all the other racist that have posted on here, find something else to do on your sparetime, maybe become a productive part of society. Help your brothers and sisters, and show them proper direction in not becoming negative influnces on those around them.Maybe I’m fighting an up battle that can’t be won, but this will be my last attempt to reach out. Balls in your court Erica and Taylor, unless you are both the same person.
Lance Hersh
Lance Hersh
R. weidenmeyer says
I wonder how many of these 50 upstanding ctizens that witnessed this “act of brutatlity” by the police have cooperated with the Sheriff’s Office investigation of this incident. B Williams did you step up to the plate and put your account of the event on the record? I was not there, but i would of thought if the event was captured on video then the officers would have been either cleared or found to be in the wrong by this point. Or maybe the camera did not capture the event and now the investigators have to struggle to get these “witnesses” to cooperate in the investigation.
Sandi says
you know it is a real shame that these “people” who saw this incident cannot for one second even acknowledge that had either subject not resisted, this wouldnt have happened. Oh and need I comment that the female, when she went on TV for her 15 minutes of fame, claimed that her biggest problem wasnt that she had her butt handed to her but rather she was called a black b****. Now, her big problem is that her shirt got ripped. So, all of you who “saw” this happen please get your stories together so they at least make sense. I also want to add that calling people racist,etc. is not helping anything and you guys are burning the few bridges you have going for you over there.
vietnam vet says
Thank you Sandi. they show there racist attitude by resorting to name calling etc. I lived that area 10+ plus years. the bad element is about 10% percent. with a reduction in police patrol’s. we will see a steady increase in crime & of course reaching out too other part’s of town.
Thank you. Officer Rieber & Officer J R.
Tired says
My God!! Are you “witnesses” serious. What happened was not RACISM!!! Troy is trash….always has been. I know I can say this with uncertainty my husband grew up with him and was one of his best friends at one point. I personally don’t like JR but racist I would not call him. You guys getting on here and making no points or solutions is ridiculous. Your grammar and spelling is deplorable. Come on black people stop keeping us down.
Dave please dont give up on us. You have been a very active voice for us on the east side of town. You mean what you say and you back it up always. Please please please don’t give up on us.
vietnam vet says
Tired your doing the right thing’ by supporting the people who are willing to help the east side. Dave yensan Lance Hersh etc. and also A.P.D. let the chief know a long with the officers they are…… APPRECIATED remember P.I.G. PRIDE INTEGRITY GUT’S.
Lil B says
Tired !! was you there if not shut up
Tay says
Lil B thats right tell them. They all need to mind their business they all really think they know what happened. Its always been a race issue with those cops
Tired says
Actually this is our business!! This is my community and I care what happens. It is people like the last two to respond that keep us down and stereotyped. It pisses me off.
Oh and Lil B (stand for little blood by chance?) I was there just not at the store buying drugs. I was the clearheaded one.
Sandi says
Lil B- I have one favor to ask from you. Can you please use correct grammer? It would make you sound a little more intellegent.
vietnam vet says
Tired is not so Tired after all ” Fiesty ” indeed. Hopefully you don’t stand a lone. Lance Hersh Dave yenson are on your side. A.P.D. is a phone call away.
Lance Hersh says
Hey Vet,
Still waiting for someone to call me. My phone number can be a path to a new beginning. Obviously they don’t want that. By the way we should thank our Mayor for a piss poor job at the city coucil meeting last night for breaking the tie vote and voting against the annexation. The people in this town better be prepared to pay more in taxes. Thats the only way we are going to generate any new revenue.
I own a business, and I don’t know if anyone on the council ever has, if they have, thats why they are still on the council because now there business is bankrupt and this is the only thing they have left to do. There are two ways to generate business, one is to charge your current customers more money for the same service, which this city has decided to do. Or two you go out and get more customers, and thats exactly what annexation would have done. We would have a larger tax base for our city. Those houses will built regardless wheather or not the city annexes them in or not. The County has already given them the green light, it will just take alittle longer and they will use our facilities here in Aberdeen and not have to pay a nickel to the tax base here. That red shirt bullshit won’t work with the county, because if you havent figured it out the County doesn’t care about Aberdeen, they only care about Bel Air and the surrounding area, not us. I do want to thank Mike Hiob and Ron Kupperman for voting in favor of the annexation, at least they get it.
Lance Hersh
Al J Thong says
Well said Lance. In a very short time the county will extend the water and sewer from the Hollywood development to the Beechtree development and then to the Hiob lane lands owned by Peter Bosworth. That will forever cut the city off from expanding to the south west. The city is already cut off to the east by APG and to the north by the borders of Havre de Grace. How is it possible that the people allow this council to be controlled by those who do not live in our city or pay our taxes? Is this Mayor so weak that he feared the rath of the red shirts?
Can anyone tell me anything positive this Mayor and/or this council has done?
vietnam vet says
I Was never ”impressed” by Mayor Bennett. if I recall he made it too my House & and somebody else was talking for him. I ask the guy’ can mr Bennett speak? for him self.
He mumbled something’ about Steve johnson, not being far behind. well I thought I might get some answers from ” Steve’ well he did’nt show either so I was left with no answers. S. Fred warned us what was going to happen. well it’s here.
Rwinger says
Lance do not hold your breath on getting any intelligent response or avenue of communication that is, if you believe that the responses were actually from an adult as opposed to an acne prone 14 year old who thinks in one color pattern (blue or red theses days) and can only put out an original thought by sticking a bunch of music lyrics together, believes that 25 is an old person, and says that they will take a bullet for street cred but cried the last time they got a needle at the doctors.
As for annexation and the rise and fall of the mighty Aberdeen Empire, I’ll see you on the other thread,
Terri says
I just HAVE TO respond to this uneducated, sickening comment …
AND I QUOTE … “Alice on April 1st, 2009 7:25 pm
emt9091
Shut your mouth you sound really dumb!!! You don’t even know those people. And for your information they all have jobs one of them indeed is about to become a nurse. Get ya facts right before you run your mouth. Maybe they shoud come tear down your house you loser. You people think that everyone that lives on or near East Bel Air Avenue are drug dealers or gang bangers if you look in the police blotter there are more people in Bel Air that are being arrested for drugs.. So what do you have to say about that?????”
FIRST of all … if one of “them” is about to become a nurse, why in the hell would they be hanging out with scum like that?
SECOND … “Maybe they shoud come tear down your house you loser” Her ipaddress should be pinged and her contact information sent to the officers that she loves to hate … suggesting and encouraging that sort of behavior is in the ranks of “terroristic threats” and is against the law.
That said, I will move on to another disturbing comment …
AGAIN I QUOTE “Erica on April 12th, 2009 10:53 pm
Lyle how do you know if he has a job or pays taxes. Shut up!!!! *No personal attacks!* I got my masters in nursing. So dont talk about education to me.”
If this isn’t an absolutely SCARY thought! AGAIN … this should be circulated to ALL of the medical institutions in the tri-state area AT LEAST! Someone with this much racial hatred should not be allowed to work with people who are not of color, or with police officers!
Lance Hersh says
Nice try to the drug dealers and other no good scumbags who hang out in front of Sids market. Trying to scrap the letters off of the “NO LOITERING” sign in front of Sids and across from the Boys and Girls Club. What a bunch of morons. You really think the court is going to fall for that. LOL Maybe the court will think it is a stop sign. LOL I sure some of the local residents haven this happen, why weren’t the officers informed about this vandalism. Its going to take alot to change this area, but it will be done. The children of that area will soon be able to walk down the streets without fearing threats and attacks from the scum of the earth that hang out there. It will be an area where children of colors can walk and feel safe. Mark my words, this will happen.
Lance Hersh
Terri says
Lance, hopefully this will be able to happen in ALL of the neighborhoods in Harford County where these good-for-nothings-as-they-are-right-now hang out and deal their drugs.
Anyone who stands FOR these assholes deserves to be sitting right beside them in jail. They are no different than the one actually handing out the poison! I think the police need to KEEP being hard on them … keep locking their dumb asses up! EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY, the courts will really be tired of seeing the same jerks over and over again and FINALLY put them away for a while! Maybe they should consider FORCING these lowlifes who think the law doesn’t apply to them to enlist in the military! Send their asses to Afghanistan for a while! Maybe, just maybe, then they’ll realize that living life here, ACCORDING TO THE LAW, isn’t so bad after all! Something needs to be done with them … and all of the ones who think what they’re doing is okay! Lying for these ****heads, standing behind them and encouraging them makes you just as guilty!
Lance Hersh says
Terri,
Your right. I got one even better for you. I’ve tried to mend bridges here from the community, put my phone number on here for them to contact me, been over for the clean and the boys and girls club to no avial. Maybe at this point it’s the NAACP that needs to go over there and take some responsiblity in teaching the drug dealers that they are defending how to behave like civilized citizens.
Lance Hersh
Terri says
Yeah, Lance … I saw where you offered your number so people could contact you. The thing is … they’re not interested in cleaning the trash up out of their neighborhoods … the actual trash or the people who choose to live as such! They like to complain in public, or when the time is right, but when it comes down to doing something about the problems, starting with the people who are the biggest part of the problems, they want nothing to do with it! Maybe there should be a little neighborhood built out in the middle of some island somewhere and all of those who think that’s the right life to live can be sent there and they can all live together in their own trashy little neighborhood, then the rest of us wouldn’t have to deal with them!
Tired says
Thought this might be interesting to some….I was just over at SID’s, parked right in front of the front door and low and behold guess who was standing right in front of the door? Good Ole Troy himself. Hmmmmm????
Terri says
He was standing there because the crappy “judicial system” we have here in the wonderful U.S. of A. doesn’t do it’s job! All they do is continually give these repeat criminals a slap on the hand, telling them “No-no! That’s bad!” and letting them right back out to do the same stupid stuff all over again! How many of us as parents would tell our children “NO!” a couple times, maybe three, before they were given a time-out? These jerks need a time out … but not just 15 minutes to realize that what they did was not proper or acceptable behavior! They need a few years to think about it!
As far as the NAACP is concerned, all I’ve ever seen on the news about them has proven only one thing to me … they like to harass the citizens of the United States who are NOT black because a few that ARE didn’t get their way! I have never, personally, seen or read one story about them that makes me feel like they are really there to do anybody any good!! I AM POSITIVE that there are some situations where they defended somebody who really deserved it, and I don’t count Rodney King as one of those because that man was going to get justice without their help! The situations where justice DOES need to be served against police officers who abused their power don’t really need the help of an outside organization. The facts are all right there and obvious!!
Another thing … I find it funny that when a person of color feels they were treated unfairly, they run to the NAACP, but everyone else has to defend themselves, or pay for the representation of a lawyer. Why is that? The NAACP should treat everyone fairly as well and STOP jumping to conclusions on behalf of someone without knowing the facts! That’s what wrong with this world as it is! There’s too much emphasis on the color of one’s skin instead of the story of their life!
Lance Hersh says
Is Troy Sids new mascott, kind of like the Statue Of Liberty guy that waives to everyone on Rt.40 in front of Liberty Tax. LMAO
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
I’am sure the NAACP is going to erect a monument in Troy’s behalf for out standing criminal. for failing to obey a police officer resisting arrest etc.
Lyle says
Unless troy has a night job, but i dont know where u can work stoned every night, then he dosnt have a job cause he is always hanging out in front of SIDS, mabey he has an ebay store. It was a nice try but most people on here are citizens and do have daily knowlege of what goes on in this small town. And that makes it observations, not a personal attack. If i were to write “troy sucks” then that would be a personal attack. But since he does just hang out all the time, unless you can have him post his tax returns for the last ten years. But im sure he cant since he hasnt filed any. Im sure if he had a real career then he would never had ran his mouth in the first place cause he would be earning an honest living. Just observations, and personal attacks are calling some one a racist when you probably never had met the person in the first place. Do you ride around every day and observe the same officers to get a feel for what type of a person they are? They have jobs, they pay taxes that is a step above troy already.. what does troy do other than hang out ? Almost every day…. What good deed has he done to earn your efforts to stand up for him ? I can tell you that the police run the reisk of being killled for you , troy and me just for coming into work… that is one more notable admiration for the police, what has troy done?
vietnam vet says
Lyle personally I do not know the officers involded. I have seen them at work over a period of years. I have never seen anything out of line. failing to obey a police officer is certainly going to lead to further problems.
My contact with Aberdeen’s police officers, has been nothing but professional in speech & manner. you speed you get a ticket’ etc. you don’t need and office to sell dope. any street corner will do.
Lil B says
Lance your the real lame . The man can go to the store if he wants. Get a life
Erica says
Why yall so worried about what goes on with Troy worry about yourselves?? That is the real problem these days people don’t know how to mind their own business. Your all wrapped up in other peoples lives. All you idiots need to get a life.
Erica says
I would never stand behind a crooked cop. Jesus has the final say so!!!!!
Lance Hersh says
Lil Boy-My mom pays so taxes so people like you can go get your food stamps. You shouldn’t insult the people who pave your way.
Lance Hersh
By the way, why don’t you man up and put your real name on here you coward.
For any of you who didn’t see before, it was deleted for personal attack, Lil boy insulted my mother.
vietnam vet says
Erica if there ” crooked” it’s because they carry a heavy burden. there public servant’s. sure to be judged by the people friend or foe. just Imagine a world with out police protection.
You’ injoy the freedom you have. so the next time you see a police officer Thank them for the work they do.
g maurice says
If he needed to go to the store than go. But why does he have to stand in front of the store? To sell his disease! Why did the crack head cross the road to buy from Troy! Get a life and get a job like the rest of us! Quit giving the good people in that neighborhood a bad name!
Lil B says
Lance are you stereo typing ?? Everyone that lives on that side doesnt receive public benefits. And for those that do so what??? I bet your mom is probably the first one in line getting welfare – your a real lame dude. Get a life
Erica says
you all need to get a life and stop worrying about others
Harold says
yeah you can really tell these people have no life. Lance who wants to call you your no one important
Terri says
It shouldn’t be too long before we ALL gat to here the final decision on this case! I’m sure the “ever perfect, does no wrong, drug dealing low-life, and the others arrested that day will VERY soon have their day in court and, HOPEFULLY, a few hundred or more days in jail! When it’s all said and done and it is found that the police acted within their rights and the asshole junkies were the ones in the wrong, it would be REAL nice to see the “members” of the NAACP who caused this run-along mess to be sitting in the cell right beside them! It’s time the NAACP learn that they can’t harass good citizens, or police, every time someone of color screams they were mistreated, especially when the NAACP doesn’t even ask for any evidence to review before they try to hand out blame and ruin an innocent person’s name!
GET REAL PEOPLE! Everybody knows the jerk in question is a good-for-nothing drug dealer!! His whole family is in the drug market, either buying and using, selling – and using, or both!! No matter how many times you come on this page and act like he has every right in the world to be at SIDS market, you’re not going to change the fact that everyone knows WHY he is there! You people hate it because “one of yours” was jacked up by the police, who were doing their job, and carted off to jail because he’s TROUBLE! If this guy who was arrested wouldn’t have been “one of yours from the neighborhood” you all wouldn’t give two shits about what happened! Don’t worry though … the police will get the opportunity to yank out the rest of the weeds from that neighborhood soon enough and the rest of us will be able to come on the Dagger and talk about what an AWESOME job they did!
Lance Hersh says
Lil boy. That the best you have is play the tipical race card. If you are African American, I can tell you that I have done more for your race then you ever will. I do it because I care. Like I said lil boy, if you don’t thonl this is my real name, man up and dial my number. I don’t have to hide behind a fake name.
Harold-The reason I say to call me is that I’m trying to bring real issues to the table and find solutions for our commuinity. Obviously that’s something you don’t care about. You obviously have not read my previous posts on here and understand that the only agends I have is to build a stronger Aberdeen. But when you put yourself out there to try to make a difference and these comments on here from people who can’t be man enough or woman enough to use real names and they insult you or yopur family, I’m going to lash out and defend my family. Lil boy,erica,harold, you are the real racists. Harold, call me and you will see that I care and I’m trying to make a difference. If not don’t chime in at all. Just keep your mouth shut and talk about subjects you only know about. The 3 of you are probably young kids who don’t understand the community problems and barriers that we face, so ill cut you some slack. But watch who you insult, I’m probably the one you will need help from in the future and I won’t turn my back. Lil boy, don’t worry I’ll forgive you since I know your about a 13 year old kid that doesn’t know what he’s talking about. You just hang around the wrong people, but if you don’t make some important life decisions very soon, you will end up a loser like Troy, in and out of jail and dying at a young age.
Lance Hersh
vietnam vet says
lance your gaining a fan club. Terri is planting a garden & picking the ”weed’s”
Lyle says
Troy has made it his buisness to put his buisness on TV, the news paper, and internet. And in doing so has had BS accusations against good police officers. So since the man in the glass house made the desicion to throw the first stone, the rest of us are firing back. Erica, do you have any personal, first hand knowlege that JR is a crooked cop. Ever take a step back and look at this un-biased, or are you so far into playing the devils advocate you cant admit Troy is crap. Cuz most of the residents over by SIDS know first hand what Troy does. And I beleive JR has become a mythalogical creature to all those who do wrong over there because they suck at crime and are tired of getting caught by the police. I mean how far does Troy figure on getting on a 9th grade education.
Harold says
Lyle you think you really know Troy don’t you.
*** That’s it, you are done. You, and your multiple personas, have been warned repeatedly about personal attacks. You have been temporarily banned from commenting. ***
Lyle says
so all the comments about aberdeen having crooked cops arent personal attacks, all the slander against JR isnt, personal attacks,
“Lil B thats right tell them. They all need to mind their business they all really think they know what happened. Its always been a race issue with those cops”
“You all got your noses up in business that has nothing to do with any of y’all get a life.”
“Rwinger you should be in jail for your dumb comments”
“Yall look at this side of town and label everyone as a drug dealer or a gang banger!”
“Everyone knows how those two scum bags are”
” but those two are scum. Everyone knows it. Those cops hate blacks. They take advantage of their police powers. They are supposed to protect and serve not harass and assault people. Let’s paint you black and put you on that side and see how you get treated. Those people were walking away they complied I was there. What was the reason the cop JR followed them as they walked off. And I heard him call the one girl a black B#tc@. How do you justify that?”
Geeeze, I only went half way through the comments and these are all personal attacks so I guess you should delete every single comment on here. The biggtest offender is erica.
Funny the media did the same thing for the election to get obama elected by gearing everything towrds the positive of oboma and negative or nothing at all for Mccain. Everything is negative about JR and everything is so great about Troy. So when i tell the negative about troy its a personal attack. Hmmmm
vietnam vet says
I don’t think it’s a race issue. the police officer’s noticed a known offender loitering in front of S&S market. unaware he was waiting for his daughter inside the store.
of which I don’t think would make any difference’ one thing lead to another. if troy had payed heed to the officers request. there would not have been any trouble.
And as for RWinger.we are considering him as a draft pick for the next MAYOR.
Blanca Jefferson says
THese folks who pretend that Harford COunty is NOT a racist area and that the police do not practice racial animosity as evidence of a crime do not live in the real world…
I wish I could enjoy such an imagination, but unfortunately I must live in the real world.
Dave Yensan says
Has it occurred to anyone else that we only hear from these wannabes; LilB, Hazel, etc on weekends? My guess i9s that they get weekend passes from whatever institution they attend the rest of the week.
Lyle says
It has nothing to do with race, it is some liberal who gives these offenders the time of day to make rediculas complaints and now the ofenders feel like they have a way out of trouble by making complaints and missusing agencies like the NAACP for personal gain.
diamonae says
Yes it does because they arrested my mom uncle and cousins for no reason just because they’re black. J.R Called my mom a black bitch just for asking why my uncle was getting arrested and if you don’t think that’s racist than someone needs to slap some since into you cause you must be stupid.