From the office of Sen. Nancy Jacobs:
The Maryland Health Department has just issued draft regulations that will make sure clinics performing surgical abortions are safer for their patients. Senator Nancy Jacobs (R-Harford/Cecil) called for stricter oversight of these clinics by sponsoring legislation during this year’s General Assembly session. The safety issue came to light after a young woman was critically injured at an abortion clinic in Elkton, Cecil County last fall.
Senator Jacobs agreed to put the legislation on hold to give the Health Department the opportunity to propose these new regulations to address the problem.
The proposed regulations are based on those that govern other outpatient surgical facilities. These standards should help ensure the safety of patients by including a licensing requirement, properly qualified physicians, emergency plans and a 24 hour patient hotline.
According to Senator Jacobs “I believe even more can be done to protect women at these clinics. This is a very positive step in assuring fewer deaths or injuries at abortion clinics in Maryland.”
Common Sense says
Now only if she’d push for legislation that stops all the deaths at these facilities.
Jesus Saves says
Hurting the women and employees at these clinics is every bit as wrong as the murder that occurs within them.
-From a Pro-Life, Anti-Death Penalty Christian
Pissed with the Government says
Abortion is a horrible thing in my mind, something that should only be performed in cases of medical necessity, such as the mother’s life in jeopardy, incest and rape. I see no reason people can’t correctly use prophylactics prevention of pregnancy in this day and age. But as I do not have the capability to bear a child(I’m a man not a woman) I can not damn her for her wishes to control what happens in her body. If any daughter, wife, or girl friend of mine were to become pregnant I would wish for them to bring the baby to term and offer it for adoption if they did not wish to raise it, but again the decision truly lies on the woman. Of course I believe for someone to engage in coitus they should be ready to reap the penalties for such, especially if they do not practice safe sex.
Elsie says
Ah, yes — the Scarlet Letter. What century is this. Some in our society still wish to condemn and judge the behavior of others — considering that behavior is none of their business. I thought right-wing conservatives were against excessive government regulation and interference. Everyone should have the freedom to decide — it should not be based on legislation critical of someone’s behavior!
Patrick says
@Elsie – What are you talking about people have every right to disagree with abortion or any act they find reprehensible and abhorrent. They also can express these positions politically and call to the government to not fund abortions directly or indirectly.
Finally, there are both conservatives and liberals that oppose abortion.
Patrick
Doug104 says
Abortion opponents are idealists that inhabit a different world than the rest of us. Ask them what happens after the unwanted children are born, then the conversation stops. Will they be adopting these unwanted children? Will they be educating them and clothing them. I doubt it. In fact these are the very same people who promote smaller government and cutting all the programs that are necessary to raise the babies that were “rescued” by the busybody idealists. Abortion is a personal and difficult decision, and it needs to be preserved. The earth has gained 1 BILLION people since 1991 !!! I support abortion.
Paul says
Hey Doug,
“Abortion opponents are idealists that inhabit a different world than the rest of us.” – Thats a very broad generalization. I would suspect there are a wide variety of opponents of abortion for a variety of reasons.
“Ask them what happens after the unwanted children are born, then the conversation stops.” – Yes, I would suspect some do, but not all.
“Will they be adopting these unwanted children?” – Some will, most won’t.
“Will they be educating them and clothing them.” – We all pay taxes, so yes.
“I doubt it.” – Ok.
“In fact these are the very same people who promote smaller government and cutting all the programs that are necessary to raise the babies that were “rescued” by the busybody idealists.” – Yes, some will be this. However, others will call for overhauls of the system to stop the abuse and waste of resources. There is a problem with many entitlement programs. If the programs were fixed and not abused, they might just be useful. However, they way they are currently abused….
“Abortion is a personal and difficult decision,” – Yes, it is.
“and it needs to be preserved.” – er…..
“The earth has gained 1 BILLION people since 1991 !!!” – Yea, far too many.
“I support abortion.” – I support post-trimester abortions on criminals.
And, a quote I rather enjoy…
Barbarism is needed every four or five hundred years to bring the world back to life, else it will die of civilization. – Edmond and Jules de Goncourt.
Clay says
They may make the clinics safer for the mothers who wrongly decide to go there but they sure dont make them safe for the poor kid getting cut up.
David A. Porter says
Clay, Do you have a uterus? So if you don’t then all you are is a spectator, a critic… just another voice with an opinion and no actual involvement with the process, the ordeal, the decision between a woman, her God and her Doctor that she alone can make – without your involvement. You want to save kids? Adopt them. Fight with social services over issues relating to women who want children and have children but lack the basic faculties to be a good mother. Focus your criticism and energy in those areas where you can make non-verbal difference, and stop whining about something you have no control over.
Paul says
Hey David,
“Clay, Do you have a uterus?” – Only those with a uterus may decide if abortions are illegal? Umm, ok. We will form an all female judicial panel and let them decide, or, better yet, have a vote in which only females may vote….
“So if you don’t then all you are is a spectator, a critic… just another voice with an opinion and no actual involvement with the process, the ordeal, the decision between a woman, her God and her Doctor that she alone can make – without your involvement.” – Or, he may be a concerned citizen of the US, a father of an unborn child, a family member, a friend.
“You want to save kids? Adopt them.” – Absolutely.
“Fight with social services over issues relating to women who want children and have children but lack the basic faculties to be a good mother.” Social services needs to be seriously overhauled, but, yes, you are correct.
“Focus your criticism and energy in those areas where you can make non-verbal difference,” – His energy. And perhaps he is making a difference.
“and stop whining about something you have no control over.” Kind of like you whining here?
Anyways, have a nice day.
Paul
Keesha Jackson says
DAVID A PORTER and PAUL,
I have a uterus. You don’t, at least as far as I know. I suppose, by some of the garbage I see written here, that makes me more qualified than either of you.
Abortion clinics are dreadful places that do dreadful things
to desperate people who haven’t been told that they have choices and they haven’t been advised of the likely physical and emotional side effects. Their unstated advice is that if you have a physical side effect, go to the emergency room. If you have an emotional side effect then just deal with it.
What goes on there, in its entirety, is both immoral and unethical. SOme women have demanded the “right to choose” and they have been given the right to be preyed upon.
Paul says
Hey Keesha,
“I have a uterus. You don’t, at least as far as I know.” – Correct assumption about me, not sure about David A Porter.
“I suppose, by some of the garbage I see written here, that makes me more qualified than either of you.” – Qualified to do what? If you mean more qualified to talk about abortions, then why? Simply because you have a uterus? That is a very slippey slope. Perhaps all ciizens of the US are qualified to talk about it. I think, though, that even if qualified, I don’t think most have the intellectual capacity to hold a rational conversation about it. And I am not referring to you, nor most here on Dagger.
“Abortion clinics are dreadful places” – Yes, I wuld imagine some are.
“that do dreadful things to desperate people” – Your opinion, and the opinion of about 1/2 the US.
“who haven’t been told that they have choices and they haven’t been advised of the likely physical and emotional side effects.” – I think many are informed and still go through with it.
“Their unstated advice is that if you have a physical side effect, go to the emergency room. If you have an emotional side effect then just deal with it.” – I have never been to abortion clinic so I won’t profess to know this is fact or not, however, I would think the doctors at most facilities would not be so cold and indifferent. Again, I don’t know the truth, but I do know a few doctors and I would think they would offer professional advice.
“What goes on there, in its entirety, is both immoral and unethical.” – Half the country agrees with you, half don’t. I personally agree with you, not for religious reasons, simply because in my opinion, life starts at conception and the taking of a life without justification is murder.
“SOme women have demanded the “right to choose” and they have been given the right to be preyed upon.” – The right to be preyed upon? I don’t think it is very ethical or moral to prey upon someone because we disagree with them. There is a method in place to make abortions illegal, amend the Constitution.
Paul
KEESHA JACKSON says
PAUL,
You use a lot of “I imagine” and “I would think”. The difference between you and me is that I speak from knowledge and you speak from speculation. If you truly knew the experience of women going to an abortion clinic, as contrasted to what you think the experience is, I believe you would conclude that they are being preyed upon.
Paul says
Hey Keesha,
“You use a lot of “I imagine” and “I would think”.” – You are correct, I don’t have the experience.
“The difference between you and me is that I speak from knowledge and you speak from speculation.” – Actually, alot of what you stated was speculation or assumption. Examples..”Abortion clinics are dreadful places”, are all of them? “Dreadful things to desperate people”, so, everyone that goes is desperate? “who havent been told they have choices”, you know for a fact that everyone is making an uninformed choice?
“If you truly knew the experience of women going to an abortion clinic,” – I will never know.
“as contrasted to what you think the experience is, I believe you would conclude that they are being preyed upon.” – Doubtful. Don’t say the doctor is preying upon the women. I will not say there are no cases when a woman was preyed upon by a doctor, however, on the whole, it would be the woman, not the doctor, that makes this decision.
Also, yes, I use “I imagine” and “I would think” quite a bit. However, as I stated, you are basically doing the same thing as you have not been to all the abortion clinics and seen all the doctors and spoke with all the women that have been there. You, like me, are expressing your opinion, perhaps yours is based on a visit or two to one of these clinics, but please, don’t say that because you have a tiny bit of experience that what you speak is the gospel truth.
Have a nice day,
Paul
Keesha Jackson says
Paul, you misunderstand “preyed upon”. For the most part these women (and sometimes girls under the age of majority) are pregnant and desperately don’t want to be. Let’s start from there. I think you might agree with that.
Did you know that the clinic is not required to have parental consent when they do this surgical procedure on underage women? They are required to inform one parent but parental objection carries no weight. Also, there is a loop hole that allows the doctor to ignore required parental notificatio. DO tattoos require parental signed consent? Yes! Abortion? No!
It is not the policy of many clinics – can we agree that Planned Parenthood runs a good number of the clinics? – to counsel the women as to what other options that the women have. That is documented. Call Planned Parenthood and ask them to see their written policy.
The clinics also do not have the resources to handle post abortion medical issues and they do not have the resources to handle post abortion emotional/psychiatric issues. That als is documented.
So, if I am a doctor or hospital or clinic and a 17 year old girl needs to have a mole removed it can’t and won’t happen without parental signed consent including documents stating possible side effects and the “attending” required to counsel as to other options such as freezing. Abortion? Not so much.
Paul says
“Paul, you misunderstand “preyed upon”.” – No, I don’t.
“For the most part these women (and sometimes girls under the age of majority) are pregnant and desperately don’t want to be. Let’s start from there. I think you might agree with that.” – No, that isn’t true. For some, yes, for most, no.
“Did you know that the clinic is not required to have parental consent when they do this surgical procedure on underage women?” – Actually, it depends on the state. Some states require consent, some notification and some, nothing. In Maryland, notification is required.
“They are required to inform one parent but parental objection carries no weight.” – That is th law.
“Also, there is a loop hole that allows the doctor to ignore required parental notificatio.” – With the courts approval.
“DO tattoos require parental signed consent? Yes! Abortion? No!” – And this is important because?
“It is not the policy of many clinics – can we agree that Planned Parenthood runs a good number of the clinics? – to counsel the women as to what other options that the women have. That is documented. Call Planned Parenthood and ask them to see their written policy.” – Planned Parenthood accounts for 27%, according to wiki, and abortions are only 3% of the total services provided by Planned Parenthood. So, I think it may be that the do counsel them.
“The clinics also do not have the resources to handle post abortion medical issues and they do not have the resources to handle post abortion emotional/psychiatric issues. That als is documented.” – Where is this documentation? I see that the clinics off all sorts of treatments.
“So, if I am a doctor or hospital or clinic and a 17 year old girl needs to have a mole removed it can’t and won’t happen without parental signed consent including documents stating possible side effects and the “attending” required to counsel as to other options such as freezing. Abortion? Not so much.” – The current law, which I disagree with, allows for a doctor to perform an abortion on a minor with parental notification, or with courts aproval, either way without parental consent. I am aware of this.
Have a nice day.
Paul
ALEX R says
Keesha,
The facts take all of the fun out of this. Please, I beg you, no more facts.