From the Havre de Grace Police Department:
On 07/06/19, at 0056hrs, Havre de Grace Police Department Dispatch received a call from the Aberdeen Police Department advising two male juveniles were assaulted in Havre de Grace and brought to an address in Aberdeen.
The victims advised they had been assaulted outside of a residence in the 100 block of Remington Circle. Havre de Grace Police Officers responded to the area and were able to secure a residence. Havre de Grace Detectives were called to the scene to begin an investigation.
One of the victims was transported to a local hospital while the other victim was transported via Medivac to University of Maryland Shock Trauma
On 07/11/19, Detectives obtained arrest warrants for two counts each of First and Second Degree Assault on suspects in the investigation. The suspects were identified as Scott Brian Raymond Jr., who resides in the 100 block of Remington Circle Havre de Grace, Maryland. The second suspect was identified as Timothy Daniel Easton of the 700 block of Pulaski Highway Havre de Grace.
On the above date Raymond Jr. was taken into custody at his residence by Havre de Grace Police Officers without any incidents. Later on the above date Easton had responded to the Havre de Grace Police Department to turn himself in on the above charges. Both Raymond Jr. and Easton were transported to the Harford County Detention Center to see the Court Commissioner for their charges.
At this time, no further information will be provided due it being an open and active investigation.
True Harford Republican says
Two more skum bags for the jail.
True Dat says
Put them in jail so they can become full fledged criminals. That sounds like something Harford County will do as they don’t know how to deal any other way.
LocalFireHero says
I mean did they not almost kill a 15 year old kid? No disrespect but that screams criminal to me. Harford County at its finest no doubt. Resident for 27 years born and raised on the rt 40 corridor. And I’ve never beat someone , let alone so bad they still need their skull reattached. Now I agree …. Harco needs to wake up and let the petty crimes go and work on rehab of people who only know that life style …. however ; these two need a lot of time to think about what they did, and even than it won’t be enough. Some of my friends are college grads. Some of them are junkies. And some of them are dead …., but I choose to give back to my community. I see how poverty and shitty parenting go hand in hand …. and I still choose to take the high road. These kids did not. I agree the profiling has to stop …. but we need to stop and think what if that was our son? Laying on life support …, I would be devistated to know these two shit heads could walk away.
Truth Be Told says
We didn’t wait.11 months on this one? Why is that?
Rjbaskins says
I hope his cell mate wipes that smirk off of green hair’s face
Mrs.C says
If you don’t know the story plz don’t say anything. It is tragic on all sides. I know both of the young men pictured above and exaclty what happened. I will not say what happened due to the investigation.
Bite Me says
I hope they rot in jail. They are both POS
True Dat says
See in Harford County you are presumed guilty till proven innocent….Don’t you know this? God help these boys as I would not want to be dealing with Harford County.
LocalFireHero says
I’m sorry, but they both deserve the felonies they are being charged with. The kid they beat the shit out of still needs a surgery to reattach his skull. Idc how you know them or don’t know them… wrong is wrong. And I guess Mr. Raymond’s parents got him a lawyer? For his JURY TRIAL. Real smooth. I hope they throw the book at him.
Rjbaskins says
Typical story “they were good kids trying to turn their life around “
Fakenews says
Wonder why we havent seen any reporting from Fridays drug raid in Bel Air. But this place is quick to post Route 40 stuff. Selective news reporting with an agenda
Truth Be Told says
Why of course…..The establishment doesn’t want outsiders to know all the issues and problems they have in BelAir. Otherwise people moving to the area will avoid it like the plague. Especially if they knew about the corruption, ineptness, and overall Boss Hogg atmosphere there is in Harford County government.
EJK says
7/1/19 – Motion Denied…..too bad so sad……
Rjbaskins says
7 days now and the same story headlines the Dagger
Mike Callahan says
They Key to the Democrats winning the President in 2020
: Impeach Trump in the House. Nixon was only impeached in the House and he resigned. The Senate has never voted to impeach! Dont worry about the Senate Republicans. Impeachment in the House will cripple and scar Trump!
Try it says
Good luck shithead.
You’re gonna get crushed in 20.
Open Your Eyes says
Don’t worry too much about what Callahan thinks. Anyone that idolizes and uses Bill Maher as gospel is a real tool bag. I said it before and I will reiterate how I envision MC. A reasonably liberal arts educated liberal who’s parents probably paid for his education. I suspect he is unemployed and lives at home. I further suspect that he has never been in a fight or handled any type of physical conflict on his own. He seems to have an abundance of time to surf the net for any liberal piece or article in attempt to make his arguments. I am a 63 year old man who has been around the block. I haven’t seen and done everything but I paid my dues Mike. Can you say the same?
Bob says
“Close-mindedness” is something that we all have to be aware of and guard against to as we get older.
SoulCrusher says
and the treason of the DemoSocio Party is something we must all be aware of no matter how old we are….
Mike Callahan says
There is no good reason not to start impeachment hearings Trump!
Only 19% of the public supported impeachment in 1973 when the House began impeachment hearings!
One year later Nixon resigned!
Pelosi needs to stop the profiles in miscalculation and show some political courage!
EJK says
Pelosi is a wind bag….she is the perfect example of why Term Limits are needed.
Bob says
Term Limits would definitely be a step in the right direction for our political system.
Bob says
“Louisiana police officer suggests Ocasio-Cortez ‘needs a round’ in since-deleted Facebook post”:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/454057-louisiana-police-officer-suggests-ocasio-cortez-needs-a-round-in-since-deleted
It’s appalling that a law enforcement officer would post such hateful and dangerous garbage
Open Your Eyes says
I concur that the statement made by the Louisiana police officer was inappropriate and unacceptable. Even worse it was stupid to post on social media. My question to you Bob or your possible alter ego MC is how come I have never seen you condemn the statements made by Congresswoman Ilhan Omar regarding the Jewish people? Why was she not called out for such hatred? Why do you liberal folks pick and choose the positions you wish to address.
Bob says
We agree. It was “stupid” for anyone, especially a police officer, to make such a post on social media.
Regarding Omar’s statement on the “Jewish people”, the first thing we have to do is agree on the facts. Please tell me “exactly” what you believe she said and maybe the context of her comments..
Open Your Eyes says
Stop playing games. You and I both know what she said and where she stands. There is no place for this kind of hatred to be ignored or tolerated. Ever! Even you Trump haters should agree unless you are total blind hypocrites
Bob says
Please, believe me. I am not playing games. To move our discussion forward we need, if possible, to start out with a common set of facts.
Open Your Eyes says
You are playing games Bob. I have read enough of your posts and counter arguments to determine that you appear to be a reasonably intelligent person. Stop insulting my intelligence and those of the other readers with your attempts at displaying situational ignorance about Congresswoman Omar’s statements regarding her blatant anti Semitic views. I am quite sure you are well familiar but that might impact your subsequent anti President Trump rhetoric.
Bob says
“Rep. Omar apologizes after House Democratic leadership condemns her comments as ‘anti-Semitic tropes”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/11/its-all-about-benjamins-baby-ilhan-omar-again-accused-anti-semitism-over-tweets/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff8639a78828
Are these the anti-Semitic tropes you are referencing? It looks like she did the right thing by apologizing. Also, I believe the Democratic leadership took the high ground by condemning her comments, instead of turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to them. Do you agree?
Open Your Eyes says
Ok let me get this straight. In your July 22nd 0916 hours post you indicate that the Louisiana police officer’s very inappropriate comment was deleted on Facebook by the officer. Was this because he was ordered to do so or was he truly remorseful? I don’t know. In that same post you still refer to the incident and to his actions as appalling, hateful, and dangerous. In a later post (which I knew you had smarts enough to find information about) you indicate that Rep Omar apologizes after being condemned by Democratic leadership. You stated that the Democrats “took the high ground “ by condemning her actions. I did not see you end your last post by saying her statements, which were injurious to millions, were appalling or dangerous. This is a prime example of the hypocrisy of the liberal far left mind set. This will be my last post on this thread. Bob or Mike or whoever you guys are your own worst enemies. I am quite sure that President Trump thanks God every night that there are hypocrites like you guys to make more and more people come to his side. Good night and God bless
Mike Callahan says
Why it is necessary to impeach Donald J . Trump!
SoulCrusher says
For the Democrats to actually declare a Constitutional crisis is a joke. The Democratic Party is the Constitutional crisis and it has been that way since FDR. If you need it explained to you take a history class….
Bob says
Here is officer Rispoli’s original post — “This vile idiot needs a round…. And I don’t mean the kind she used to serve” To me his comment clearly promotes violence.
Below is a link to the AP (Associated Press) Fact Check of Rep Omar’s comments, which are clearly anti-Semitic. However, they are nonviolent. Being a retired police officer, you surely must see this distinction between Rispoli’s and Omar’s comments. To me it’s almost like apples and oranges.
https://www.apnews.com/e6690d5b6e8c496580e2dc0cc78c2f17
I regret you have chosen to close the door on our discussion. Who knows, maybe we could have reached some common ground.
YEPYEP says
He is a retired Police Officer. Likely incapable of an intelligent discussion.
SoulCrusher says
Are you sure he is talking about Omar and not AOC? AOC was a bartender, berated the Border Patrol and ICE, yet wouldn’t vote for additional funds to be appropriated to help quell the housing crisis of the immigration issue. I guess she really doesn’t mind them drinking from the toilet…..
Bob says
Rispoli’s comments are about AOC. The anti-Semitic comments were said by Omar.
It looks like Rispoli and another officer who “liked” his comments were fired.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/us/gretna-police-charlie-rispoli-aoc.html
Just the facts says
trump is deporting less than OBama so the dumbass excuse they need more money is laughable. They are getting $750 per day and need more? Hell I’ll take 4, that would be a million bucks a year, I’ll cloth them, feed them, take them to a doctor. Sounds like a money maker to me.
Bob says
“At $750 per day, the children could be staying at the Four Seasons hotel.”
https://riseuptimes.org/2019/06/26/u-s-company-making-750-per-day-per-child-to-keep-immigrant-children-in-prison-like-conditions/
At this price our President might be willing to put up immigrant children at some of the Trump Luxury Hotels. He might even provide them with toothbrushes.
SoulCrusher says
I’ll agree that at $750 per day, some of those children could be put up at Trump Luxury Hotels as I just checked the rates and it seems that during the weekdays 2 children could be put up for around the $750 per day. On the weekends you could only house 1 child for $750 per day. However, is this what the American people would want? Do the children of foreign nations deserve such lavish treatment on America’s dime? I don’t think so. The $750 per day includes the costs of paying those border patrol officers, food, electric, water and even the single use pre packaged toothbrushes that already have the toothpaste on them. Quite frankly, if we can house incarcerated Americans for $85 – $170 per day, we do have to wonder why it costs $750 per day to house these children, whom are NOT Americans. Then we wonder how we ever got to be 22 trillion in debt….
SoulCrusher says
@Bob – If the officers got fired for their comments, how come Omar gets to keep running her Al Qaeda rat trap in our Congress? You Democrats seem to be so concerned with Trump’s campaign and if there was any collusion foreign governments, but I’m more concerned with foreign dissidents and Muslim extremists being instilled in our government. REAL AMERICANS want to know why an Al Qaeda douche bag is sitting in our Congress and not being shipped back to Somalia like her dirty ass deserves? REAL AMERICANS want to know why you Democratic traitors are defending her camel toe when all that comes out of her mouth is camel dung! Quite frankly, I’m sick and tired of the Democratic Party and the constant treason they have and are bringing to this Country. Send Omar home to Somalia where her she belongs….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, Again, the difference between Rispoli & Omar comments is the element of violence. I do not consider Omar to be a foreign dissident and/or a Muslim extremist, nor do I believe she has any contacts with Al Qaeda.
If she decides to run again in 2020 it will be, as it should be, up to the voters of her district in Minnesota to decide whether she remains in Congress.
America is Omar’s home!
Because says
Because……Democrats operate under three basic principles:
1) do as I say not as I do
2) figures don’t lie liars figure
3) all Republicans are racists and people of color are always victims
Bob says
Before I comment on your post, could you please provide me with what you believe are the Republican operating principles? Of course, if you are unable to identify any Republican principles, I understand.
SoulCrusher says
@Bob – Omar is a disgrace to the United States. Quite frankly, whenever she talks it makes my blood boil. She is an American hating POS that should either be shipped home to Somalia or dropped off in Yemen with the rest of the Al Qaeda crew. I would say the same about Tlaib, but she was born in America and can’t be shipped to the Palestinian side of the Gaza strip. However, Tlaib has to be the ugliest woman this side of a butt crack and that’s all there is to it….
Bob says
SoullCrusher, I know I shouldn’t say this , but your diatribes invariably bring an inappropriate smile to my face.
Truth Be Told says
Not surprised that a law enforcement officer would post such things. After all they believe they are above the law. HCSO deputies routinely violate the law and get away with it.
Superman says
A person convicted of a violation of this section when the value of the property is $500 or more is guilty of a felony and is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 15 years or a fine not exceeding $10,000 or both; and
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm
Superman says
Two days and a wakeup……would love to see the look on his face when his latest game fails and they proceed to trial .
Superman says
24 hours…..Maybe A&E Court Cam will be in Harford County Circuit Court tomorrow?
Superman says
Anticipation……Making me wait
Truth Be Told says
He didn’t mean a drink? That could be the case.
Don't be a Richard says
Green hair was in Harford District Court…..he and a bunch of cringy old people on a field trip to the court. The shit that goes on in Harford County is amusing to say the least.
Bob says
AP FACT CHECK: Trump Distorts Omar’s Words on Terrorism”
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-07-16/ap-fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-omar-praised-al-qaida
The Central Scrutinizer says
Wow, when I checked I found all the letters needed to spell “i hate white people” in that article. This nasty racism must stop!
Rjbaskins says
This started out 12 days ago about a green haired punk who needs his ass kicked and now it has turned into all about Trump. That’s the trouble when the DAGGER runs a story to death. DAGGER hasn’t mentioned a single word about all the recent robberies in Dublin, Whiteford or darlington or anything about the trash druggies getting caught. The Dagger has it’s pulse on the community news
Bob says
The underlying, connecting theme is both our President and one of the suspects dye their hair – one green and the other golden blond, almost orange.
Tim says
Bob,
Would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
North Harford Democrat says
Probably the same type of folks who tell me “You don’t belong here” with their racist inneundo as I pump gas in North Harford.
North Harford Democrat says
People of Harford County are a strange breed. Up here, Im a minority living in the “country” surrounded by conservative voters, yet they complain about the type of over development in retail/housing, and in their perspective – political shenanigans that goes on in local government…
And here we are, these people keep voting for the same people time and time again.
Fix Harford, Vote Democrat.
Don’t give me that “Look at Baltimore City voting Democrat” horse shite. Harford County has not had a majority Democrat leadership in a long time and I believe things would be better off.
Tell me otherwise, Republican voters.
LocalFireHero says
I’m surprised you’ve lasted this long up here. You’re a joke.
Truth Be Told says
I agree Harford County people are a strange breed…..I think there is something in the water.
Bob says
Rep Omar is wrong. Calling the female genital mutilation question “appalling” was a mistake. She seems frustrated in this video. This is unfortunate. If she wants to survive in American politics she will need a tougher skin and a lot more patience. She should look at every question as an opportunity to express and define herself. If not, she will be a flash in the pan and gone in a hurry.
https://youtu.be/TxaBrLbpW7A
Bob says
“GOP senator blocks election security legislation hours after Mueller warns of Russian interference”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/politics/republican-senators-block-election-security-legislation/index.html
Apparently, another Republican Senator has gone off the deep end and down Trump’s rabbit hole. It must be getting crowded down that hole. I guess she figures the President’s chances for reelection improve the easier we make it for the Russians to hack our election process and systems
Bob says
“Federal government to resume capital punishment, schedule executions for first time since 2003”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-government-to-resume-capital-punishment-schedule-executions-for-5-inmates
Yet another step backwards!
SoulCrusher says
Wrong. Every one of the scumbags that are scheduled for execution are CHILD MURDERERS. If you murder a child you should be executed. If you do a school shooting you should be executed. If you commit mass murder of innocent people you should be executed. I’m for this all the way, in the way it is being used. There are some crimes that the cops should be allowed to just blow the culprit away instead of taking them into custody. School shootings with multiple victims is a good example where the cops should just be the executioner. Do we really need to keep people like this locked up when they could just be disposed of from the get go? If you think this is a step backwards, in the way it is being used, I think you’re outta your Democratic mind…..
Bob says
My objection to capital punishment is based on my moral beliefs, not my politics.
SoulCrusher says
An eye for an eye, Bob. An eye for an eye….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, If perhaps executing a killer would restore the life of a victim, then maybe.
SoulCrusher says
It’s NOT about restoration, rehabilitation or redemption. It’s about reaping what you sow. If you can’t understand that I don’t know what to tell you. You don’t preserve the life of those whom murder innocent children. I’m sorry, but I can’t go along with morality because where was the morality when a man entered a school to randomly kill those whom are innocent. There comes a time when you have to drop the morality BS and understand that when you victimize another person you have become a criminal and are now subject to the same victimization you reaped upon others. That is the Common Law and that is what we are really beholden to. Not the Codes of treason that your Democratic Party has illegally instituted into this perverted government you worship as a God….
capt Obvious says
“School shootings with multiple victims is a good example where the cops should just be the executioner. ” They already do that if you are brown.
SoulCrusher says
If you are brown, white, black, orange, polka dot or even rainbow striped, you should be executed for committing a school shooting where there is multiple victims. It doesn’t matter about your race. All that matters is the damage you did to others. When you victimize another person, you have committed a crime. That’s the principle of common law and in the case of school shootings with multiple victims the police should act as your judge, jury and executioner….There is no need for a trial and I don’t care about WHY you did it.
Just Sayn says
According to whom? I guess in libtard world criminals should not be put to death but innocent babies can be slau
Bob says
According to my morality
Bob says
“Joe Scarborough shreds ‘Moscow Mitch’ for refusing to protect the 2020 election”
https://theunitedstatesblues.com/joe-scarborough-shreds-moscow-mitch-for-refusing-to-protect-the-2020-election/
Bob says
“Just the facts”, “just for” and now “Just Sayn” on this on the Dagger. Things are getting crowded. Maybe I better stop posting on Dagger while I exercise.
Bob says
“Mueller’s team told Congress his acuity was not an issue. Some lawmakers privately worry it was.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/muellers-team-told-congress-his-acuity-was-not-an-issue-some-lawmakers-privately-worry-it-was/2019/07/27/4ca51cf8-afcc-11e9-bc5c-e73b603e7f38_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9fa22766e349
If one Democratic lawmaker is correct that he and his colleagues had hauled Mueller in for selfish reasons and tarnished his name by exposing his deficiencies, then shame on them. Robert Mueller is an American war hero, who has given 50 years of service to our country. He deserves better than this!
Bob says
“Trump slams Cummings as a ‘brutal bully,’ claims Baltimore district ‘far worse’ than southern border”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454995-trump-slams-cummings-as-a-brutal-bully-claims-baltimore-district-far
Looks like the President has decided to go after both Rep Cummings and the city of Baltimore. His comments are absolutely despicable. Something is seriously wrong with our President. God help us!
Snap Dragon says
Bob shut the hell up already. Cummings and the dems with daca opened the floodgates to create this mess. Then they refuse to give trump the funds to secure the boarder. When Obama was deporting thousands of illegals and separating families no dems said shit. Trump is spot on, Baltimore is a shithole, police have left in droves and the criminals have gotten their “room to distroy”. You will not support our president no matter what he does and you refuse to call out Obama for the same stuff. You are pathetic and a communist.
Bob says
I’m glad you enjoy my comments. I will make sure to keep them coming for you.
Just for says
Bob I realize you try to come off as the all omniscient authority and final word on everything but would you like to live in Cummings district ? Why don’t you and your family move down there and why don’t you, the man with all the answers, straighten it out. I’m sure that your liberal ideas will quickly fix all the problems
Bob says
You give me much, much too much credit. Thank you!
SoulCrusher says
Just another example of Democratic persecution of Trump for him telling the truth. Cummings is an indictment for both term limits and birth control. I live in Baltimore and YES Baltimore is literally infested with rats and rodents along with bed bugs and roaches. Baltimore is exactly what Trump says it is. Corruption in Baltimore is evident or have we all forgotten about the last two Democratic African American females who had to resign from office due to scandals. Bob, you can say what you want, but I live here in the demilitarized zone of Baltimore and I’m telling you Trump is preaching some serious truth in his comments about Baltimore. It is a shame I had to move myself into Baltimore to live with my family or else be forever persecuted by the treason of the Harford County Circuit Court and the HCSO, but I would rather live as a pauper in a demilitarized zone than be part of the treason of Harford County. I never experienced bed bugs until I moved into this dump of a city, but at least I’m free and that is something that none of you in Harford County can say. The Harford County Judicial Department, in all of its aliases, is nothing but a corporate treason machine and their isn’t a Judge or a Prosecutor in Harford County that isn’t a traitor against the United States.
Bob says
Seems like you are paying a heavy price for your ‘freedom’ Have you ever considered moving out of Baltimore?
SoulCrusher says
Nope. There isn’t any place in Maryland that is free, except for Baltimore. Where else can you raise chickens in your 20ft. backyard, cop a trick from a $2 hoe coming out of a church, buy guns from your local police or just smoke a joint walking down the street. Besides, by the look of the junkies around here, we must have the largest supply of fentanyl on the East Coast. These are all sure fire signs of freedom and a booming economy, RIGHT? Screw you Bob. Come to Baltimore and be free with the rest of us degenerates. At least you’ll be free….However, if you don’t know what your talking about, well, let’s just say you shouldn’t criticize a man for telling the truth.
Bob says
I might be coming to Baltimore…cause according to some posters on this blog I’ve worn out my welcome in Harford county.
Truth be Told says
Agree 100%……Harford County is a cesspool of corruption….
Bob says
CNN’s Victor Blackwell tears up defending hometown over Trump attacks
Bob says
CNN’s Victor Blackwell tears up defending hometown over Trump attacks
https://youtu.be/upIExc4a27M
Bob says
Here is the correct link to CNN’s Victor Blackwell
https://youtu.be/zYANRUos8Hg
Bob says
Baltimore Sun Editorial calls out our President – “Better to have a few rats than to be one”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-0728-trump-baltimore-20190727-k6ac4yvnpvcczlaexdfglifada-story.html
Just for says
“Just a few rats”. No wonder the Baltimore Sun paper has lost all credibility and is considered the premier liberal rag that it is. Do the editors and reporters not leave the safety of their offices or homes. Baltimore is one of the highest murder per capita cities in our country. It is a sewer. Take a look at the once beautiful areas such Pimlico, Highland Town, Pig Town and the list goes on. Once beautiful homes and now look at them. Many know what happened and who were responsible but it is not politically correct to hold those responsible. During the Freddie Gray riots Rep. Cummings all but commended the demonstrators (hoods) for their protesting which practically destroyed the city and cost it millions. Then they have conduct DOJ investigations and who did they interview? In many cases drug dealers and criminals. Sure they claim harassment because the police are interfering with their operation. One of the main reasons the city is a sewer is because if the violators are people of color, which sadly is in a disproportionate numbers, it is racial to address the issues. People are dying, corruption is rampant in the police and correctional departments and it is ignored. Who is benefiting from this crap. Then you have Victor Blackwell, a commentator, a celebrity. He knows first hand what goes on in Baltimore. Does he address it? Does he say anything. No he tears up like a little bitch all the while understanding but ignoring the real issues and not identifying the offenders.Trump had the balls to call a diamond a diamond. I was going to use the other card term usually stated but I know there are a lot of race baiters out waiting to pounce on what would otherwise be a routinely used benign phrase. President Trump is by no means perfect but he has no problem in calling like it is. Maybe if some of leaders in Baltimore would step up to the plate and demand compliance with the laws and rules of a civilized peaceful society the city would be a far better and safer place. Furthermore, I am trying to convince poster “Bob”, the man with all the answers, to move to the city and make everything better?
Bob says
I read you…keep it coming! Eventually, I am sure the fog will lift and you will see the error of your ways.
SoulCrusher says
I have NO RESPECT for a man like Victor Blackwell who denies the truth and tears up for Trump speaking negatively about his hometown of the trash heap known as Baltimore. I live here and I’m white. Baltimore is a living cesspool of roaches, bed bugs, rats and rodents, just like Trump says. If Victor Blackwell tears up because the truth is being spoken then maybe CNN should come on down to Baltimore and show the world ALL the great places in Baltimore where the common man lives. Show all the homeless people, the drug dens, block after block of empty homes and burnout buildings, chicken coops being erected in backyards in total violation of zoning laws, the filth of needles laying in the playgrounds and the literal horde of walking dead addicted to fentanyl and opioids. This is the REAL Baltimore and I have seen it with my own two eyes. Victor Blackwell can go straight to hell and if he doesn’t like what I’m saying he can come and look at the truth himself. It’s not like Cummings and Blackwell don’t know the truth. They are embarrassed that Trump is brutally honest and tells the truth about the shithole they claim is so great. Just more lies from a Democratic traitor against the United States spreading false propaganda on the Clinton News Network. He can literally kiss my ass….
Bob says
Hey SoulCrusher,
What exactly is the deal with the “chicken coops”? My first thought when I read your post, is this for real or is SoulCrusher just going off the deep end? Then for the hell of it I googled “chicken coops + Baltimore” and look what came up:
“In Baltimore City, residents who obtain a proper permit from animal control can own up to four chickens that are more than one month old, as long as they are housed in a movable pen with at least 2 square feet per chicken, and the pen or coop is located 25 feet from a residence”
https://baltidome.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/chicken-keeping-in-baltimore-city/
Is this really an issue? If so, t join with you in your concern. I’m in favor of banning chicken coops in Baltimore City.
SoulCrusher says
Believe it or not, the Latino’s are putting them up all over the place and there is a lot more than 4 chickens in those coops. Furthermore, I used to live in an area where those annoying roosters would wake you up every morning and now I’m having to live it again like deja vu. It really pisses me off. Besides, there is health issues as well, especially with the eggs they try to give away or sell. The chicken coops and the parking situation is the only thing that the Latino’s do that piss me off. Other than that, they are good people. A 20ft. backyard in a Baltimore City row home is NOT appropriate to be housing chickens. Period. End of discussion and this has been going on for like 2 years now.
Harford Republican says
Cumming district covers Monkton and My Ladys Manor. What a shithole…
The Central Scrutinizer says
Mueller proved that there is substantial evidence of misconduct……but its not in the 4 corners of the Mueller report and the judiciary committee is going to find it during recess. << Jerald Nadler
"WHERE IN THE WORLD IS THE EVIDENCE? LOOK THERE, BEHIND THAT TREE, IS THAT EVIDENCE? OMG I SEE SOME EVIDENCE IN THAT CLOSET UNDER HILLERYS SERVER! WAITE….LOOK AT THAT ROCK…I THINK I SAW SOME EVIDENCE UNDER IT!
Voice from off stage: Mr Nadler, its time for your medication.
Just the facts says
Apparently you didn’t bother to read the report. The evidence is overwhelming
SoulCrusher says
Yes, you’re right. The evidence is overwhelming that the Obama administration did start an illegal investigation into the current President, Donald Trump. The evidence is overwhelming that a conspiracy between Obama era appointees and the DNC to thwart the duly elected President and did plan an apparent coo against him. The evidence is overwhelming that high ranking Obama era appointees and the Democratic Party have committed treason against the United States all because Hillary lost. The Mueller report is a sham and the investigators are a bunch of treasonous scumbags. Execute every last one of them….
Just the facts says
But you can’t name a single individual. Loosen up the foil hat it’s cutting off the circulation.
SoulCrusher says
John Brennan and James Comey for a start. However, the entire bunch of Obama appointees did intentionally try to set the stage for a coo and have in fact committed Article 3 Section 3 Treason against the United States. Everyone of those traitors should be immediately executed for treason or imprisoned for at least 20 years. That’s the bottom line, Traitor.
Just the facts says
What did Comey and Brennan do? Let’s just stick to the facts. trump is guilty of campaign finance violations and obstruction of justice both felonies. He will do anything to remain in office so expect things to go off the charts bizarre
If your going to go the crazy conspiracy route why not go find the Comet Pizza basement….. idiot.
SoulCrusher says
Comey leaked confidential & classified information, interfered in the 2016 election, exonerated HRC, spied on a President elect, spied on a sitting President’s administration, coordinated witch hunt efforts and still leaks confidential & classified information to this day. Brennan has and is still leaking confidential & classified information while giving false information on national news agencies and forwarded the Steel Dossier at the Obama Administration’s request. They are both traitors whom were and are working for the DNC and the former Obama Administration to this day. Just to be very clear, I’m almost at the point where I would say Barrack Obama has committed treason as well and I liked Obama when he was in office. Quite frankly, if it wasn’t for the current policy of not indicting former Presidents and forgiving them for their crimes, I’d have Obama indicted as well. You Democratic traitors need to stop with the treason. Under Article 3 Section 3, you can still be executed for treason and Article 3 Section 3 is the Supreme Law of the Land, not your Democratic Party’s Code of Rules and Regulations that you think is the law.
Bob says
You mentioned you liked President Obama when he was in office. If you don’t mind me asking, did you vote for Obama in 2008 or 2012?
Just the facts says
The only “spying” that went on is the CIA and NSA had wiretaps on Russian agents and they caught trump officials calling them on unofficial channels. And you do realize IG Horowitz had to put off his findings because after interviewing Steele he fund the claims of the Dossier very credible. You need to venture out from your conspiracy theory web sites.
SoulCrusher says
No Party controls the Judicial Branch you idiot. Apparently you have forgotten the wiretaps on Carter Paige. Apparently you forgot that Comey already admitted to staging illegal interviews with the Trump Administration without authorization and that the FBI got away with it because Trump’s Administration was unfamiliar with the policies of the treasonous government he inherited. Anyone who claims the Steel Dossier is or was credible is a complete liar and even a complete Democratic traitor like you should know this. You need to venture out from under your political umbrella and realize that YOUR Party is the very definition of treason and that you are a traitor against the United States. The bottom line is Obama asked his appointees to commit treason against Trump and his new administration because Hillary lost. There was a lot more people involved and I believe that traitor Rod Rosenstein was involved as well. That’s it. Bottom line. When you wage war against the United States, our Constitution or WE THE PEOPLE whom are the United States, you have become a traitor. Everything we have seen is indicative of the overthrow of the Constitutional Republic by the Democratic Party and its unconstitutional practices of foregoing the Constitution in favor of the Code they have illegally instilled. That which is unconstitutional is illegal because the Constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. Get it thru your thick skull traitor and admit that you are nothing but a traitor.
SoulCrusher says
@Bob – I don’t partake in elections and I am not registered to vote. As soon as you register you have given consent to the treason of the elected representatives. You see those whom are elected are not our leaders. They are our representatives, yet they make law as if they are leaders while ignoring the fact that they are supposed to represent us. Not lead us. I can’t recall any representatives asking their constituents if they liked or approved of the laws they created eroding our rights and I can’t give any legislature my consent because I do not believe in them. I do not give consent to that which I don’t believe in and I believe the legislatures are all treasonous in full. They have broken the covenants in full and have forfeit all power and authority they claim the government has over us. There isn’t one member of Congress or the State Legislature that is honorable and if they are affiliated with the Democrat Party they are traitors. Why would I give my consent to a bunch of stinking traitors?
Just the facts says
And yet the republican party controlled all 3 branches of government an did nothing to prosecute these heinous crimes that there is zero evidence ever occurred anywhere other than in your head. As I said lets stick to what we actually know happened. The President is guilty of campaign finance violations and obstructed justice all to get elected. So keep prattling on about some imaginary crimes in an attempt to deflect reality it’s funny in a sick sort of way.
SoulCrusher says
There was no obstruction of justice because justice was never sought. The last time I checked the only person convicted of campaign violations was Michael Cohen and quite frankly I believe that the charge is a fabrication and that Cohen is really serving time for the tax evasion he admitted to. You’re just a Democratic idiot who endorses treason and claims it is the rule of law. There is no rule of law if that rule is brought about by treason and the law breaking the law to enforce the law. Lastly, WE THE PEOPLE are NOT ruled by anything and that includes the fictional rule of law you Democratic idiots keep referring to. The rule of law is really the rule of treason as WE THE PEOPLE have 11th Amendment immunity to all trespasses by the treason of the government you worship. By the way, your girl Hillary has broken more laws than any other politician and has always gotten away with it. Why do you Democrats believe you can persecute your political enemies but look the other way when Democrats do it? I think it’s because your a stinkhole traitor.
Just the facts says
“No Party controls the Judicial Branch you idiot” Wow you really are indoctrinated. What are the conspiracy internet sites you like the best? I need a good laugh and would like to check them out.
SoulCrusher says
None at all. I watch a mixture of Fox News, MSNBC and Local News. I don’t get on conspiracy theory websites unless you count the Dagger and all the Democratic traitors that have been on here since Trump took office.
Bob says
My favorites are Chris Wallace and Ari Melber. Do you have any favorites?
Bob says
Just the facts, who are your favorites?
SoulCrusher says
I like Greg Gutfeld and Jesse Waters on Fox and I like to watch the Morning Joe treason brigade. It is hilarious watching Joe and Mika lose their minds every day because Joe and Mika gave Trump a lot of free airtime before the Republican Primary and Trump used them like an old pair of shoes. Joe and Mika got what they deserved and will forever go down as the idiots that propelled Trump to win the Republican Primary at a fraction of the cost all the major players had to shell out. If Trump wins again in 2020, I predict Joe Scarboro will have a stroke on national tv….
Bob says
I was listening Joe Scarborough last week when he went off on “Moscow Mitch”. When agitated he does get pretty excited. You can almost see his blood pressure rising.
This morning he paid a 10-minute tribute to Elijah Cummings.
SoulCrusher says
OK Dagger Editors. Please tell me what words you’re trying to censor me over now? I didn’t use any profanity. I didn’t type anything that could be construed as insensitive or harmful to others. WTF is wrong with this website now and which traitor from the Harford County Circuit Court keeps putting you up to it?
SoulCrusher says
and magically my comment appears. WTF? Get your treason-meter recalibrated Dagger Dogs. Censor much?
Just the facts says
None at all? That’s a lie. None of those stations are pushing the crazy shit you are claiming.
Hey Soul Crusher do you know what the difference is between trump and the central park 5?
The central park 5 were totally exonerated. LOL
SoulCrusher says
Actually, yeah, they do and there isn’t anything crazy about any of it. Your hero, Obama, did ask the intelligence community to falsify info on Trump and DID start a bogus investigation into Russian Collusion with the Trump campaign. Trump was going to use the election for personal gain because he thought he was going to lose the Republican nomination. When he won it, he called off any and all business adventures, which was the proper thing to do. He then miraculously beat that Democratic witch for the Presidency and the rest is history. Get over it. Hillary lost and no action by our former President and current traitor, Obama, can get him thrown out of office. Your inference between Trump and the central park 5 is uncalled for, but what can you expect from a Democratic traitor against the United States, like yourself….
Bob says
I have conducted my own personal investigation and have determined that the source of Baltimore City’s rodent issue is a ‘rat infestation located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC. I contacted a pest control company and they recommend Impeachment, 25th Amendment or Resignation as the solution.
SoulCrusher says
Wrong, the source of the infestation is Baltimore itself. The unclean streets and the disgusting people whom have lived and bred in their own feces for years is the source. Baltimore has no one to blame for the infestation other than the residents themselves whom don’t practice hygienic manners in regards to the environment and the streets of the city. Baltimore is a cesspool and that is the bottom line….
LOL says
If it’s so easy to fix, why doesn’t Mango Mussolini do it and show how incompetent Cummings is…..
SoulCrusher says
No one said it would be easy to fix. Where did you get that idea from in response to my comment?
Bob says
“Kushner owns lots of Baltimore-area apartments. Some are infested with mice.”
I didn’t know Jared was a slumlord. This is the buffoon our President tasked with finding a peace plan for the middle east.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/jared-kushner-owns-lots-of-apartments-in-the-baltimore-area-some-infested-with-mice/2019/07/28/0d3cb754-b13b-11e9-8f6c-7828e68cb15f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.034994bfe3f7
SoulCrusher says
You need to ingle out the property management company and not Kushner. It just so happens that the State is in bed with the property management companies and have been persecuting private landlords while letting the property management companies get away with everything. Furthermore, if you are going to persecute Kushner, you must persecute every other owner of slums in Baltimore and that includes the Black owners as well. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Inappropriate and disproportional enforcement of law on particular persons is not allowed in this State as it is sanguinary. Same argument can be applied to most of the Democratic statutes of treason. Read the State Constitution and you will see that most of the statutes passed by the traitors you elected into office is illegal, unconstitutional and an act of war against the people they are supposed to represent.
Bob says
I’m not trying to persecute him. Bottom line –It’s his company and he is responsible for how it operates and is managed.
SoulCrusher says
No. He hired a property management company and it is the responsibility of the property management company to make sure everything is up to par involving the standards of this disgraceful and treasonous State. That is the whole purpose of using a property management company because it gives you plausible deniability involving fault and accountability. Bottom line, you are wrong again.
Bob says
Nope, can’t buy it. In America you are and should be responsible for what you own.
SoulCrusher says
Really? The American people don’t own the US Corporation, yet the government says we are responsible for the debt of the US Corporation. It was released a few days ago that every American citizen owes $68,000 that our treasonous government has accrued. What do you have to say about that, Bob? The reality is many rich members of society own properties they’ve never even seen, but make money off the properties each and every month. That’s what happens when you own an investment property that is maintained by a property management company. The property management company is responsible for the rodents in the properties you elude to and if the property management company goes under, then it might be Kushner’s responsibility, after the fact.
Just for says
Let’s apply the same logic to Rep. Cummings and his legislative district. It’s his district he is responsible for what goes on. He and the Democrats have failed miserably in Baltimore. I think the President called it right. I know you liberals won’t admit but it’s true. Maybe Al Sharpton and “Bob” can fix things in Baltimore. ?
Bob says
“Trump’s intelligence chief resigned after the White House repeatedly suppressed his warnings about Russian interference, New York Times reports”
https://www.businessinsider.com/dni-dan-coats-quit-white-house-suppressed-russia-warnings-nyt-2019-7
Coats’ extensive intelligence experience will be sorely missed. Looks like his replacement will be another Trump Texas toady.
Minion says
Does anybody remember what the article was about?
TPC says
Yes its about a crooked cop in Harford County who will be locked up soon?
SoulCrusher says
I thought it was about the Joker and the Riddler….
Bob says
‘I would fix it fast!’: In 2015, Trump criticized Obama for not doing enough to help Baltimore
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-would-fix-it-fast-in-2015-trump-criticized-obama-for-not-doing-enough-to-help-baltimore/2019/07/29/d202ade2-b207-11e9-8f6c-7828e68cb15f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b3a4117864cf
Mr. President, we need your leadership!. Come to Baltimore, and show us how to make our city the best it can be.
Bob says
Trump claims Baltimore residents ‘thanking’ him for taking on Cummings, exposing ‘corruption’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-claims-baltimore-residents-thanking-him-for-taking-on-cummings-exposing-corruption
At best his statement is yet another presidential half-truth. Most likely, he has received 10 condemnations for every 1 comment ‘thanking’ him. Maybe a few of the comments expressing their ‘thanks’ might even have come from some of the more conservative (delusional) Dagger Blog contributors
Bob says
Trump says he is the ‘least racist person anywhere in the world’
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/455295-trump-says-he-is-the-least-racist-person-anywhere-in-the-world
Sure…if you believe this one, I have a bridge to sell you.
Just for says
You know it is a sad situation when you have liberals hoping that the economy will collapse, hoping that North Korea starts some type of international conflict, ignoring Iran as an international threat, hoping that countless Americans lose their jobs, causing and contributing to racial divide and the list goes on as long as they can pin it on President Trump. MSNBC has aired repeated programs about white hate groups as if they are a real threat. Would I like to see these groups totally go away. Yes but the impact on the safety of Americans is minimal . I am not talking about lone wolf crazies which are unfortunately hard to detect. MSNBC rarely addresses black gangs such as the Bloods and the Crips and other black gangs operating in our cities, including Baltimore, killing thousands every year. Let people keep dying. Don’t address those urban problems because they can not be associated with President Trump. Meet the Press moderator and NBC lackey Chuck Todd was almost elated after a horrible hurricane struck Puerto Rico. Why because he could be critical of the way the President handled the aftermath. Todd on his program posted a weather map showing two more hurricanes heading for Puerto Rico. He thought he could get another shot at the President. It did matter that many more people could possibly die as long as he got another shot st the President. Who knows that might have been the last time the man got an erection. Liberals and Democrats have proven what a pathetic lot they really are all the while helping the President to get re-elected.They will have no one to blame but themselves.
Just the facts says
Liberals hoping the economy will collapse? Look around the signs are all there, the interest rate inversion going on for the last 3 months has only happened 9 times and all prior to recession. Farmers are being bailed out and still going bankrupt. We have a “booming” economy and the deficit is skyrocketing. Coal mines are closing screwing thousands out of their paychecks. US steel isn’t opening any new facilityies and he fed is about to lower interest rates.
No hoping about it trumps economy is collapsing
Trump wants to declare Antifa a hate group yet the KKK has very nice people. I could go on but what’s the point you are clearly in the cammp of racist asshole that watches Fox news with no real grasp on what’s going on.
Just for says
Again the liberals in this country whether subliminally or otherwise welcome the failure of this country and all the associated hardships and pains to our citizenry as long as they think it will hurt President Trump. Liberals offer no solutions just criticism. Every attempt to malign and hurt the President has failed or fallen short of the their objective. When all else fails play the race card. Liberal media pushes to cause a racial divide to accomplish their objectives. They continually Air very exaggerated propaganda about rampant racism by white conservatives. Again other than “lone wolf crazies” show me how many deaths have been attributed to white hate groups in the last 50 years. MSNBC paints a picture that the KKK and other white groups are on every street corner and under every rock waiting to victimize people of color. 99.9 percent of all Americans have never seen organized hate groups or know where they are located. Liberals ignore the actions of groups the likes of Antifa but instead attempt to scare people about white hate groups. Why don’t you research the KKK as it exists today and give a fair assessment of their numbers and activities. A loosely affiliated unorganized group of rednecks that I would like to see disappear from the earth. An organized threat? No, but not according to liberal media. The Bloods and the Crips killed and hurt more people over the weekend than white hate groups have in the last 50 years. Your hatred for our President is so great that you and your liberal friends are willing to disregard any and all misfortune and harm to our citizens, our country, and our world as long as it can be attached to our current President. Again you guys are so sadly pathetic
Bob says
“Democrats introduce constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United”
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/455342-democrats-introduce-constitutional-amendment-to-overturn-citizens-united
Unfortunately, this proposed constitutional amendment doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of ever passing. If I could wave a magic wand and overturn a Supreme Court decision, “Citizens United” would be near the top of my wish list.
Getting the money out of politics would definitely be a step in the right direction to fixing our politics.
SoulCrusher says
Sounds more like you’re advocating the abrogation of the 1st Amendment to me. The Citizen’s United decision was reached on the grounds of preserving the 1st Amendment and allowing the countering of another party’s political movie making by Michael Moore. The Democratic amendment that would overturn Citizen’s United would in effect limit or erode the 1st Amendment rights of those whom choose to fight the Democratic Party and it’s complete and utter WAR against the United States Constitution. Quite frankly, this amendment is an act of treason and any amendment that is allowed to abrogate the rights guaranteed by the amendments that came before it is null and void as that which comes before is superior.
Bob says
Of course, I’m not espousing the repeal of the 1st Amendment. ‘Citizens United’ conflated “individual” and “corporate” rights. Trying to turn corporations into ‘persons’ doesn’t work for me. All this did was to open the door wider, allowing more and more corrupting money into our politics. And now, 10 years later, we are forced to live with the unfortunate consequences of that decision. The ‘Citizens United’ ruling has made the money problem in our politics so much WORSE.
SoulCrusher says
Yeah, you didn’t have that to say when Hillary was running for President and had all that money pumping into her campaign. Did you? What’s worse is that she had already gained all of the “Super Delegates” before the Democratic Primary even started and had basically bought the Democratic Party’s nomination from the start. Now, if you want to complain about money being funneled into our election, why don’t you take a good look at how much money Obama took in during his campaign of 2008? $386,564,288 is the total and it largely came from corporate donations. Once again, it’s OK for the Democratic Party to do something, but a crime when a non Democrat does it. Read it for yourself…..https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=n00009638
SoulCrusher says
Here is John McCain’s profile for the same election which he lost.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00006424
SoulCrusher says
Now, why don’t we look at Hillary’s Campaign from 2016, which she LOST.
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=N00000019
SoulCrusher says
and finally, we will review the Donald’s….
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=N00023864
SoulCrusher says
Systematically, we continually see the Democratic Party funneling more money into the campaigns than the Republicans and any complaining about money in campaigns is just a complete crock of crap.
Bob says
It’s the “dark money” (Republican, Democrat or otherwise) and the super PACS that has a particularly corrupting influence on our politics . The below from OpenSecrets.org pretty much sums it up for me:
“The Supreme Court’s 2010 decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission helped unleash unprecedented amounts of outside spending in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles. The case, along with other legal developments, spawned the creation of super PACs, which can accept unlimited contributions from corporate and union treasuries, as well as from individuals; these groups spent more than $800 million in the 2012 election cycle. It also triggered a boom in political activity by tax-exempt “dark money” organizations that don’t have to disclose their donors. You can listen to the decision (see “Opinion Announcement – January 21, 2010″) as read by Justice Kennedy and the dissenting opinion read by Justice Stevens. Read on to learn more about how the Supreme Court transformed the campaign finance landscape with this decision, and how it is now affecting U.S. politics.”
SoulCrusher says
and who has used the Super PACS and their “dark money” the most? Clearly, in the last election cycle the HRC Campaign had $1,785,190 from PAC contributions and the Donald had only $144,764. It’s all there in the data I posted above and you would see it if you looked at it instead of only finding information that helps your arguments…However, the PACs can use the money anyway they see fit and can at any time run commercials and such. Who gets that money? Oh yeah, the MEDIA Corporations and we all see how the MEDIA is in an all out effort to take out the Donald. Can you say “Fake News Media”?
Bob says
Rest assured. I carefully read your posts. I like them because they challenge my mindset. They push me to keep my mind open to another POV. I hope my comments help you do the same for you.
SoulCrusher says
Really? I thought I was the regarded as the resident whack job and the most hated man on the Dagger. I really don’t care what others think anymore but if it challenges your mindset then so be it. I try to always keep an open mind when I discuss things but once I’ve made up my mind I’m pretty stubborn. However, I do try to learn about the topic before I make up my mind and that is probably what makes me so stubborn. It’s very hard to unlearn something once the truth smacks you in the face.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Leftist’s hate citizens united decision. They want only socialists to be able to contribute to campaigns.
LOL says
When you say socialist you mean like how the Russians financed trump? LOL next time you have thought let it go.
SoulCrusher says
You really do have issues with your warped brain, don’t you? Russia has a Federal Semi-Presidential Republic you dope and they practice capitalism. You should take your own advice and the next time you have a thought, just let it go…..https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-type-of-government-does-russia-have.html
The Central Scrutinizer says
Citizens United is a good decision.
Bob says
According to Fox News –“DOJ will not prosecute Comey for leaking memos after IG referral”: sources
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-will-not-prosecute-comey-for-leaking-memos-after-ig-referral-source
I know, if true, this story will drive Sean Hannity crazy. BTW Hannity is a real piece of work. I’m not quite sure how/why he gets to me, but he does. He makes me down-right angry and raises my blood pressure. I’m champing at the bit to go off on an abusive tirade about this clown. Suffice it to say, he is the worst of the worst. Bob, breathe deeply, calm down.
Just for says
Bob, I feel the same way about Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews. Maddow’ s problem is she obviously has reasonable intelligence but she is very smug and thinks she is head and shoulders smarter than everyone. Kind of reminds me you Bob. Her most annoying trait is she thinks she is cute or funny. Then you have Chris Matthews who routinely conducts interviews but has never once allowed anyone to complete the answer without him interjecting. Receiving honorable mention for being obnoxious are Chuck Todd , Al Sharoton and Joy Reed
Bob says
I’ve been watching Chris Matthews for years and I like his politics. However, you’re right about his habit of interrupting and not allowing his guests to complete their answers to his questions. The older he gets the more he seems to do it. It’s down right annoying.
Bob says
“Trump Drops Plans to Nominate John Ratcliffe as Director of National Intelligence”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/us/politics/trump-ratcliffe-dni.html
I think the NY Times gave Ratcliffe a break by saying. “following bipartisan questions about his qualifications and pushback over whether he had exaggerated his résumé”.
Looks like another hypocritical righty pays the price for getting too close to you know who. There is justice!
Bob says
“Rep. Will Hurd’s retirement announcement becomes si?xth GOP exit in two weeks”
http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/rep-will-hurd-s-retirement-announcement-becomes-si-xth-gop-exit-in-two-weeks-65191493982
Things are looking up. There is light at the end of the tunnel. More and more of the legitimate Republicans (you know, the ones that actually have a conscience) are apparently abandoning the Trump ship.
BTW, big baseball series with Boston this weekend in New York. GO YANKEES!
Bob says
The Case for Reparations
“Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-case-for-reparations/361631/
The author Ta-Nehisi Coates, who wrote this excellent article in 2014, is from Baltimore It is still so very relevant today as America struggles to overcome the terrible legacy of slavery.
Open Your Eyes says
I don’t want to come off as a hypocrite but I just had to respond to the post regarding the issue of reparations. Several days ago I stated y would not post on this thread but regretfully I feel compelled to do so. Ok Bob maybe I took the bait or maybe you actually believe what you posted
As you probably know from prior posts that I am a retired 34 white police veteran in my mid 60s. You may not be aware that my son in law is a very well educated successful black man. I have two beautiful mixed grandchildren that I love more than life.
I entered in to a discussion with my son in law about the topic of reparations. We shared a great bit of common ground regarding it. I will possibly get in to those feelings later. Bob If reparation comes to fruition how do you think it should be implemented? When I was approximately ten years old I knew and was friends with a black man in his 90s who’s parents were in fact born into slavery. In all my life I never knew of anyone more closely associated with slavery. There are no slaves or slave owners alive today. Morally I certainly think it was wrong but I don’t believe I should be responsible for the actions of people I never knew.
During my career I saw race based hiring of unqualified and undeserving people. The same thing applied to race based promotions. I saw adverse backgrounds being ignored to facilitate race based hiring. I’ve seen the polygraph system violated to facilitate race based hiring. I’ve seen criminal behavior ignored and unaddressed in the name of political correctness. In the private and public sector I have seen quota systems for hiring, receiving of contracts, and unqualified ineligible people obtaining management positions based on race. I’ve seen affirmative action etc. Are these all failed attempts at reparations? My son in law, a good and decent person, said when he watches the news he is embarrassed to be black. He does the right thing and is as good or better than anyone. He does not expect special treatment. He has earned his standing. He said “I hate to admit it but even to consider reparations for black people will be a tough sell with so many behaving badly on the news and in life in general” . In closing maybe I don’t understand. To me attempts at reparations have been going on for a while.
Bob says
I am so glad you changed your mind about posting to this thread.
You have to understand I do not post to aggravate, annoy or bait people. My goal is to share my feelings and opinions and at the same time be open to other POVs
I don’t pretend to know the answer on ‘how’ reparations should be implemented. However, I do believe the playing field is not level and equal. We can and must do ‘something’ to give a young black/brown children, especially those living in a racial ghetto, the chance to realize their full promise as a human beings and an Americans. If we do nothing it’s only going to get worse. Just because we failed in the past it doesn’t mean we can’t succeed in the future–if not, our better days are behind us.
Your son-in-law has absolutely no reason to be embarrassed. I am so sorry to hear that he feels that way. The problem is not with people of color. The problem is with our country. To say that was ‘then’ and this is ‘now’, and therefore we don’t have to make reparations for the sin of slavery would be a tragic mistake.
I hope you and I can continue to share our thoughts on this and other subjects. Thank you!
SoulCrusher says
It’s not about giving one race advantages. It’s about everyone being equal. Reparations would be abused by those handing out the money and it is not necessary because the last time I checked we haven’t had slavery since 1865. If they wanted to do reparations they should’ve did back then, not now. Every black, brown and foreigner is supposed to receive some sort of benefit from their racial origin, but the white male is supposed to just bow down to the reverse racism of your politics. I have no problem with being treated equally to another race, but what is happening is white people are being discriminated against. I’m tired of this incredibly stupid issue. YOU ARE NOT A SLAVE AND YOUR LIFE HASN”T BEEN INFLUENCED BY SLAVERY. Period. End of discussion. I don’t see a United Caucasian College Fund, but I do see a United NEGRO College Fund. I don’t see Caucasian groups giving interest free loans to whites, but we do see Muslim groups giving interest free loans to Muslims. I don’t see special allowances being made to Christians, but we do see special prayer rooms being made in schools for other religions. The list goes on and on. Foreign immigrants are supposed to assimilate to the American way, not the other way around. It’s all about equality and NOT special privilege being given to those whom feel entitled. You should be more concerned with your government waging war against the people it is supposed to serve and the government’s constant erosion of freedom on behalf of the corporate Democracy.
Just the facts says
“If they wanted to do reparations they should’ve did back then, not now” You really area an idiot when it comes to facts. There were reparations paid back then. They were paid to the white slave owners. Jesus and I ask this in the nicest possible way could you attempt to educate yourself for everyone elses sake? Your right wing indoctrination really gets tiresome.
I want mine too says
I want my reparations for the stealing money I earned and giving it to illegals. I get no direct benefit from this use of my money. I did not authorize nor do I authorize this theft of my property.
SoulCrusher says
@Just the facts – the slave holders were given money to reimburse them for the property they no longer owned. Once the 13th Amendment went into effect those people were no longer property and the former owner’s were given payment for the loss of free labor they relied on. However, if they wanted to repay the former slaves for the slavery they suffered they should have paid them then as those were the ones who did suffer. You’re the idiot who needs to educate yourself as you are nothing but a stinking traitor and a race baiting scumbag. Come to me talking that crap and I’ll execute you on the spot for treason. With my bare hands, BOY!
Open Your Eyes says
I feel that there have been countless attempts at leveling the playing field and as I look at it reparation attempts. Billions and billions of dollars have been pushed in to neighborhoods of people of color, particularly black people, for many years. Public housing is being erected every day. The problem is in 5 years the occupants turn it in to a crime invested sewer. There is no excuse even the most impoverished should and could show their appreciation by taking care of their homes. They don’t! If you had given my parents or grandparents public housing I could guarantee you that thirty years later the property would be cleaner than when they moved in. Money has nothing to do with personal pride and obligation or for that matter apathy.
I am sure that I will get backlash but a large portion of the black community needs to change their behaviors and lifestyleS to make a successful pitch for reparations. I have a black son in law and wonderful black neighbors. We all have no problem interacting and being friends. Why? Because we behave properly and extend each other respect. What many black people fail to recognize is that modern day bias is generated by their perception. Good people of any color blend and coexist without notice. Unfortunately the black gangster hood rat image is all to prevalent in today’s media and society. A change of the image of a large portion of the black community would greatly reduce modern day bias against blacks. Sure you still have some people that are just mean spirited and will never change.
A prime example of a group with significant success in reducing bias is the gay community. Some would argue apples and oranges but the principles are similar. As recent as the 70s and 80s there was tremendous bias directed at gay people. In the early 70s, one of the all time greats Elton John, gambled his tremendous success, rolled the dice, and significantly suspended his career for “coming out”. The country just wasn’t ready. What did the gay community do? They kept moving. They acted responsibly and obeyed the laws. They weren’t on the news every night or in the community acting antisocial or threatening. Little by little, more and more, their lives got better. Is there still room for improvement sure. One of the gay communities biggest success tools was they did not give the appearance of threat. For what ever reason the black community doesn’t get it. If they truly want to eliminate bias they need to contribute far more. They need to reel in that large segment of their membership which is currently generating large amounts of fear, bias, and distrust. Remember a very simple life lesson….The lord helps those who help themselves
Bob says
Maybe, part the problem is the very word- REPARATIONS. The rub is that term is all about paying out ‘money’. The first time I heard the word was when I studied about World War I in grammar school. Ironically, the reparations Germany had to pay was one of the causes of World War II.
How about we go with the word – EQUALIZATION. Don’t get me wrong ‘equalization’ would not be free. There is no free lunch. I don’t believe in just arbitrarily taking from ‘Peter’ to pay ‘Paul’, cause it just makes ‘Peter’ angry. This entire process must be done in a very careful manner. If so, I believe the short term pain will be offset by long-term gain. America is a good country. We just need to realize the process of reconciling the terrible legacy of slavery will take many more years. We must continue to work at it.
Bob says
What is it with our President when he reads from a teleprompter? It’s like he is just reciting random words that constitute thoughts he doesn’t necessarily believe. He needs some teleprompter practice.
Bob says
“The terrible numbers that grow with each mass shooting”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/mass-shootings-in-america/?noredirect=on
Bob says
Perhaps our President should reconsider his decision to visit El Paso and Dayton tomorrow. His appearance, especially in El Paso, could cause more harm than good.
Maybe, a better choice would be for Trump to call ‘Moscow Mitch’ and request that he reconvene the Senate ASAP. It’s time for our politicians to start passing legislation that addresses the public health crisis of mass shootings.
Mike Callahan says
El Paso shooters fear of “immigrant invasion ” repeats anti-immigrant racist white nationalism rhetoric of President Trump and Fox News
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/05/el-paso-gunmans-fear-migrant-invasion-echoed-donald-trump-fox-news/
Bob says
“Op-Ed: America is sick, and both liberals and conservatives are wrong about the remedy”
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-08-06/liberal-conservative-nationalism-socialism-communities
A thought-provoking piece…check it out. It looks we have met the enemy and they are us. We need to wake up…the clock is ticking!
Bob says
“Fox News’ Tucker Carlson claims the ‘problem’ of white supremacy is a ‘hoax'”
What is with Tucker Carlson? He’s clearly gone off the deep end into a state of ‘fake’ reality, let’s call it the Twilight Zone. You know it’s a place where 2+2=5 and our President’s rhetoric ‘does not’ condone or promote hate and violence.
I liked Tucker much better years ago, when he wore cool bow ties and worked for MSNBC. Back then I would describe him as a conservative Libertarian. Now, he just a ‘radical righty’. I would love to see a debate between him and Joe Scarborough.
Bob says
“Fox News Reporter Publicly Rebukes Tucker Carlson: ‘White Supremacy Is Real’”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-reporter-cristina-corbin-publicly-rebukes-tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-is-real
Wouldn’t that be nice if Tucker stayed on vacation forever? I shouldn’t get my hopes up though… that would just be too good to be true.
Bob says
Be careful.t Mr. President… I believe ‘Sleepy Joe” just woke up!
Bob says
“ICE raids on Mississippi food processing plants result in 680 arrests”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-raids-on-mississippi-food-processing-plants-result-in-680-arrests
I’m sure the people detained were not rapists and murderers. They were ‘working’ at jobs most American citizens probably don’t want and wouldn’t take. I suspect these food processing companies didn’t verify or even ask for a green card before hiring them.
I hate the government term – ‘Undocumented Aliens’ It is so dehumanizing. Today Fox News showed a young girl, the daughter one of those detained, saying her father ‘didn’t do anything wrong’. The Fox news person asked his guest what he would say to the girl. His response – ‘It’s your father’s fault’.
Sadly, this little girl, separated from father, doesn’t feel safer. Do you?
Bon says
“Mississippi ICE raids: Employers can face civil, criminal charges”
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2019/08/08/mississippi-ice-raids-what-penalties-hiring-unauthorized-workers-businesses-criminal-civil/1956401001/
Employers in Mississippi have been required to use E-Verify since 2008. Besides civils penalties Mississippi state law says those who hire unauthorized immigrants can be charged with a felony and can face between one and five years in prison and fines of $1,000 to $10,000 for each charge.
I’m sure the first excuse that these five meat processing companies come up will be — it’s not our fault cause another employment agency company does our hiring. As long American companies continue to hire undocumented workers the Immigration issues remain for country.
The answer is ‘Comprehensive Immigration Reform’, not some long tall wall. The bad news is that our political leaders are content to blame each other while blindly continuing to kick the can down the road. Shame on us!
Bob says
, The above post is actually from Bob not Bon . Sorry I hit the wrong key
Mike Callahan says
White Nationalism is not a hoax.
Its been festering forever and especially since our first Black President!
SoulCrusher says
A reminder to the public. The Media across the nation is owned by the Democratic Party and is spreading the dumbest propaganda in the history of this nation. It can be said that Obama’s Presidency did bring out racism that we long thought retired, but the things he did toward the end of his Presidency and the effects his actions caused to the current Presidency is downright treasonous. They say if you support Trump then you are a racist, a white supremacist, a child imprisoner and a gun nut. They even say he is responsible for the recent mass shootings and that his rhetoric directly causes people to walk into a Walmart and randomly gun down shoppers. They are ignorant people whom have no regard for the truth and actually believe that if they keep repeating the same lie, the American people will eventually believe it. That trick doesn’t work anymore. The Media looks downright desperate to strike a US President down on behalf of the Democratic Party and the vicious followers whom actually believe the corn ball ideas coming out of its mouths. The truth is their is no Democratic agenda that does not coincide with causing harm to the United States. The Democratic Party basically is trying to convert our country into a slave state of people dependent upon the government for survival. They offer dreams and promises that can never be fulfilled and the literal horde of idiots that believe in them give them power. This is pathetic. If anyone actually believes the Democratic Party can stop global warming, give you free college, universal income and a single payer health care system for all when they can’t even coexist with one another without calling each other racists, then that same someone is an idiot. Don’t be an idiot. Use your own mind and reasoning to come to the clear understanding that which seems too good to be true is usually too good to be true. They will never deliver and all the proof you will ever need is that to this day Marijuana is still illegal, Bottom line. End of discussion….
LOL says
Excellent diatribe, you rant on with zero facts and lots of name calling. Are you trying out for Hannitys job? Maybe Tucker?
SoulCrusher says
They only insults I used was “idiot” and its plural form. There wasn’t lots of name calling. I just pointed out what all you Democratic traitors are calling everyone else. Everything said is factual and we have all just witnessed the facts because everything I quoted has just been viewed on National Television by most Americans across this Country. You are an idiot as well. A very ignorant idiot who just tried to call out my previous comments as having “zero facts and lots of name calling”. What reality do you live in? Did you hear the words coming out of all your candidate’s mouths differently than I? Do you have a hearing problem? Are you dyslexic? Or are you just another Democratic traitor trying to suppress the all to real truth that your party is the party of hatred and treason? When I call you and your legion of fuktards “idiots” is that any different than your political hopefuls calling everyone racists, white supremacists, child imprisoners, gun nuts and advocates of murder? I think you need to reread and figure out what was said while keeping your Democratic panties from bunching up in you butt crack.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, It appears some (not necessarily me) on the Dagger believe your frequent use of such terms as – ‘democratic traitor(s)’ & idiot(s)’ are insulting. You’re a smart guy. Perhaps you could come up with some other (less abrasive) descriptors for your fellow Americans, who happen to be Democrats –Just a suggestion.
Just for says
As stated before sadly the Liberals and Democrats have tried everything to malign and discredit President Trump and get nowhere. The race card is their last weapon. MSNBC tried repeatedly to air so called documentaries on white nationalism and white racism. Where do they go? Some rural backwoods location with a couple of loser rednecks. Are there some out there? A few disorganized knuckleheads. Again outside of the lone wolf crazies show me where they have harmed, not annoyed, anyone in the last 50 years. As previously posted more people were killed by black gang members in Chicago last night than white nationalists in 50 years. I guess those black lives don’t really matter because those incidents are rarely, if ever, discussed by the liberal media. Let them keep killing each other and ignore it but try to find some isolated pocket of rednecks and try to manifest it in to a national threat. Are there some white racist out there? Yes the Liberals and Democrats try to bill it as an irreconcilable problem that only the removal of President Trump can remedy.
Bob says
Our President is not the ‘source’ of the problem. However, unfortunately his policies & rhetoric stoke and legitimize racism.
SoulCrusher says
@ Bob – When anyone, including a political party, does wage war against the principles of the Constitutional Republic and the rights, privileges, protections and immunities guaranteed to us all in our Constitution, they have committed treason and I will call them the term they have earned for themselves. Article 3 Section 3 does not proclaim any limitation to whom Article 3 Section 3 applies to. That’s because it applies to ALL citizens whom wish to wage war against us and that includes a large group of DemoSocioNazio idiots who claim the Constitutional Republic has been overthrown by their legislative processes and that we now live in a Democracy. Your democracy only consists of democratic elections and is constrained by the Constitution. That’s just the way it is until the Constitution is repealed and shelved for whatever New World Odor doctrine that the Democratic traitors instill in its place. You can all wish for the end of freedom all you want, but I’m not going to be part of that. Just for the record, my fellow Americans whom happen to be Democrats are not Americans at all. They are traitors whom have forsaken our Country for the treason of the corporation and I will have no part of that as well. They gave up their right to be a United States citizen when they became an enemy of WE THE PEOPLE whom are the United States.
Bob says
“Chicken plants raided by ICE ‘willfully and unlawfully’ hired unauthorized workers: court documents”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicken-plants-raided-by-ice-willfully-and-unlawfully-hired-unauthorized-workers-court-documents
So these companies were taken in by “fraudulent documentation” Do you really think so? Bottom line: Companies like these know exactly what they are doing.
Bob says
“Trump says he received ‘small apology’ from Kim Jong Un for missile tests”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-apology-kim-jong-un-missile-tests
You got to be kidding me, Mr. President!
Bob says
Have you noticed our President has some sort of ‘size’ fixation? I guess it’s obsessive behavior associated with his NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) condition. He needs some help with this.
Just for says
Please Bob tell me you are a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist and are not basing your psychological theories on the Dr. Phil Show or you are not going to same wells that Michael Callahan utilizes. You know those far left extremely liberal sites which he routinely uses to make his skewed points.
Bob says
Just For, check out the below article from ‘Psychology Today’. They list a total of nine symptoms with only five needing to be present to qualify an individual for NPD
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder
By my count he has all nine symptoms. Don’t you agree?
Just for says
I think haters are going to hate. Maybe I can find an article to support my point of view like you guys. Lol
Mike Callahan says
Jimmy Kimmel proved , beyond a shadow of doubt,that Trump fits all the characteristic symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder!
MrMister says
The truly sad part of this is that Mike honestly thinks that a valid argument can start with “Jimmy Kimmel proved…”
Sad.
Mike Callahan says
Baltimore ICE uses bait and switch deception tactics to try and deport legal immigrants!
In the hands of White Nationalist Trump administration ICE has become Gestapo Racists!
Harford County Sheriff Jeff Gahler should cut his ties with racist ICE or be labeled a white supremacist enabler!
Mike Callahan says
Sanchez vs Baltimore ICE
https://www.aclu-md.org/en/news/inside-detention-camps-true-story
Mike Callahan says
Sanchez vs. Baltimore ICE
https://www.aclu-md.org/en/news/inside-detention-camps-true-story
Mike Callahan says
Six Maryland families challenge ICE’s Bait And Switch tactics!
https://www.aclu-md.org/en/press-releases/six-maryland-families-challenge-ices-bait-and-switch-tactic-seek-create-class-action
Bob says
“Trump retweets post implying Bill Clinton behind Jeffrey Epstein’s death”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-bill-clinton-jeffrey-epstein-suicide-theory
Our President does some crazy stuff! God help us!
Mike Callahan says
Trump is a dangerous narcissistic white nationalist!
Minion says
So that explains the actions of Easton and Raymond, Jr.
Bob says
“The Shame and Disgrace Will Linger”
“On Saturday, President Trump spread a conspiracy theory accusing the Clintons of murdering Jeffrey Epstein.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/trumps-conspiracy-theory-about-clintons-and-epstein/595915/
In the above article David Frum (former speechwriter for George W. Bush), a staff writer at The Atlantic writes the following about our President:
“—within his administration, within Congress, within the United States, and around the world—that the 45th president is a reckless buffoon; a conspiratorial, racist moron, whose weird comments should be disregarded by sensible people.”
“Neither the practical impediments to impeachment and the Twenty-Fifth Amendment process, nor the foibles and failings of the candidates running to replace him, efface the fact that this presidency shames and disgraces the office every minute of every hour of every day. And even when it ends, however it ends, the shame will stain it still.”
Minion says
Do you suppose those kids from Havre de Grace had anything to do with it?
Bob says
How Fox News pushed the white supremacist “great replacement” theory
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/how-fox-news-pushed-white-supremacist-great-replacement-theory
As long as we are talking “great replacement” how bout we start out with Carlson, Ingraham along with Hannity. It sure would be nice if we could get this trio to fade into the sunset… nevermore to be heard from again.
Scott says
I would be more happy if you disappeared.
Bob says
Do you think ‘Fredo’ is an ethnic slur?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-chris-cuomo-fredo
Looks like Chris kind of went off the deep end.
SoulCrusher says
Cuomo went off the deep end because he’s a fuktard. Typical deep seated hatred over something stupid. Now if he called him the Dago Peter Puffer that he is, well, then I could see the outrage.
Bob says
“Bulletproof backpacks have become another back-to-school staple”
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/bullet-resistant-backpacks-have-become-another-back-to-school-staple.html
What does this say about where our country finds itself? I’m not sure whether I want to scream or cry. So, instead of coming up with gun control legislation that actually makes our children safer, let’s just give them a bulletproof back pack. I guess the next step will be to arm our children.
Fresh French Fries says
Yeah, we should ban the banned guns again, that’ll make us safer.
For what it’s worth, I doubt that backpack is tested through any labs that normally test body armor and approve them for their rating/use/whatever.
Feel free to prove me wrong, but Im going to take a wild assed guess you’ll find “Independent tests” in there and while it may actually work as “bullet proof” to some degree, but don’t count it being anything other than a way for someone to use social and capitalism gimmicks to make money.
As always, have nice day!
Bob says
You are correct. Probably, most of these backpacks are not “bulletproof”, especially when it comes to the high-powered assault rifles.
I would like to see the 1994 Assault Weapon ban reinstated. Checkout the below NPR link. It gives a short history of original ban and its 10 year ‘sunset provision”. It’s an interesting read.
“The U.S. Once Had A Ban On Assault Weapons — Why Did It Expire?”
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/13/750656174/the-u-s-once-had-a-ban-on-assault-weapons-why-did-it-expire
Fresh French Fries says
Probably millions of firearms that were “banned” (for sale) from 1994-2004 out in private collections now.
Hypothetically if there were laws +70 years banning firearms on specific “evil features” present and future, but now – it’s too late.
The fact is, the firearms (of all kinds) are in this country and they are never going away, regardless if they are your grandpa’s double barrel shotgun or an “evil assault rifle.”
Bob says
There are over 393 million firearms in our country. That’s a firearm plus for each and every person. I’m not overly concerned about the majority of these weapons, especially grandpa’s double barrel shot gun.
My overriding concern is the assault style weapons. Try as we may, I realize we can’t prevent ‘every’ mass shooting but we can make it harder for the crazies to get their hands on these type of weapons. There is no absolute safe, but we can and must be safer. Our country’s future is at stake.
SoulCrusher says
Well Bob, that’s because those guns are NOT Assault Weapons and were NOT considered Assault Weapons until the Democratic Party, in the disguise of a lawful government, redefined what an Assault Weapon is. You guys need to just start saying “we need to ban high caliber rifles with large capacity magazines” and maybe the American public wouldn’t think you’re a bunch of morons. What we need to ban is the Democratic Party because it has become so Anti-American in its idealism that anyone with common sense only sees treason in their ideas. Where did the Democratic Party of sensible and reasonable idealism go? It just doesn’t exist anymore and if Americans keep letting the Democratic Party educate their kids in the schools, eventually all freedom will be extinguished and there will be no more United States. It really pains me to see the Democratic Party wanting to turn this Country in the new U.S.S.R. or some other Republic of tyranny. You can’t fight a tyranny without weapons and Bob why don’t you take a look at Article 6 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights to see what I’m talking about?
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I thinks perhaps we are getting lost in the weeds. hung up on what we define as an assault weapon. I don’t care what you call it AK12. AK15. AK 47, automatic, semi-automatic, high capacity magazine, high caliber. Bottom line – I am in favor of banning any weapon that is capable of discharging ‘lots’ of bullets in a ‘short’ period of time. What we call the weapon is almost inconsequential. What is of paramount importance is the weapon’s capability to wound/kill easily and quickly.
It’s not ‘tyranny’ that I am worried about. It’s the alienated and isolated crazies full of anger and hate that are of much more concern for our country.
Below is Article 6 of the Declaration of Rights:
Art. 6. That all persons invested with the Legislative or Executive powers of Government are the Trustees of the Public, and, as such, accountable for their conduct: Wherefore, whenever the ends of Government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the People may, and of right ought, to reform the old, or establish a new Government; the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Looking at I don’t believe “all other forms of redress are ineffectual”. Do you?
SoulCrusher says
“The doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind” – That is the part you don’t understand and the only way to prevent tyranny is to be properly armed with weapons equal to those whom wish to do you harm. If a cop can have an AR-15, then so should the people. How else do you prevent a tyranny? You can’t prevent it at a voting booth….That’s the truth.
SoulCrusher says
I’m not real sure a lot of these shootings could be prevented. There is already background checks and these guns are getting sold right off the shelves, legally. Funny, if I were going to try and commit a heinous crime, I would be getting weapons that couldn’t be tied back to me. These people are deranged and want to kill and be killed. What can you do? You can’t take away guns for the fundamental purpose they were preserved for and that is to prevent a tyranny from a centralized government. I would rather have freedom than the myth of security any day of the week. You can’t stop people from killing other people and no amount of legislative nonsense will ever change that. Most of these nuts don’t care if they survive or whom they take out. Would you prefer the suicide vest? How about a machete massacre? I’ve got it, chlorine gas in the lunch auditorium. Look, my point is if there is a will there is a way. Taking away guns or using background checks will not prevent these nut farmers from carrying out their mission. They will figure out a way to do what they do. Would you really feel safe if the only people in this country that had guns were government employees? If you answer “yes” then you have an awful lot of confidence in a bunch of people that can’t get anything done except for bashing the bishop and flogging the meat puppet. I know I don’t have any confidence in them….
Mike Callahan says
Bob, Don’t listen to the foolish gun lobby propaganda spewed by Soul Crusher. He is is a BS-spreader and a Truth Crusher. Truth Crusher and the gun lobby are only interested in selling bloody weapons of mass destruction, and to hell with human safety !
SoulCrusher says
I’m not interested in being a conservative, a republican, a democrat or any other political pawn, which all of you are. The bottom line is the 4th Amendment exists to prevent a tyranny from a centralized government and you traitors are advocating the removal and/or diminishing of the rights that all Americans should be holding near and dear. You can do what you want, but I’m not listening to your Democratic nonsense because the Democratic Party is the party of hatred, slavery, and treason against the United States. The Democratic Party must be destroyed as they are the greatest threat to liberty this country has ever seen. The Dems are literally preaching fascism and hatred, yet they have the balls to claim the other side is doing it. Is there any REAL Americans out there anymore?
SoulCrusher says
I meant to say 2nd Amendment.
Mike Callahan says
TruthCrusher is only a pawn in their game!
SoulCrusher says
Whose game you nut? Every American should be interested in preserving their rights against the treason of our current government and your political party that has created that treasonous government. You are the one playing “their” game and that game is the destruction of American and the freedom it represents. Read Article 3 Section 3 and realize that you are a domestic enemy of America. You deserve the full penalty of Article 3 Section 3 laid down upon your sorry carcass that was set by the Second Continental Congress. We are in a war, right now. That war is over the minds of Americans, especially young Americans that are being taught your party’s politics in the public schools across this Country. The same politics are being taught in Colleges as well. The idea that everyone gives up all their rights to satisfy the concerns for safety by your party’s political scheme is an abomination of American idealism. The real question is what Godless evil will you and your treasonous party instill against Americans if you ever get full control again. A Democrat already sold us to the UN and foreign bankers years ago and you nuts claim that FDR was a God send. He was a traitor. Pure and simple. You are a traitor Mike and their is no hope for you….
The real Just for says
Democrat’s and liberals hate President Trump so much that they are hoping for a major recession in our country. They have total disregard for the welfare our citizens as long as President Trump goes down. Rarely do I watch MSNBC but their guest speakers were so blatantly hoping for it to happen it actually sickened me. What the he’ll is wrong with these people???
Bob says
The right word is ‘fear’, not ‘hate’. He has managed to tap into our country’s worst angels.
Mike Callahan says
The coming recession is completely Trumps fault—-he and his fake economic advisors have no idea what they are doing!!!!
The real Just for says
Cut the philosophical BS Bob. Haters are haters. I find it highly disturbing that you guys are actually hoping that economic failure occurs. Bob in another post you made reference to your grandchildren. To most people their children and grandchildren are the most important thing in their lives. Is the ruination of President Trump more important to you and your liberal friends than their quality of life and prosperity? If I it is you and they are a pathetic individuals
Bob says
Rest assured. Irrespective of my politics. I learned a long time ago the absurdity of cutting off my nose to spite my face. I also suspect most of your favorite MSNBC talking heads feel the same way. The economy is doing pretty good in spite of, not because of our President. Trump’s own worst enemy is ‘himself’. He inherited a strong economy and he is doing everything possible to tear it down, just to spite his predecessor. I guess Trump never learned it’s not smart to cut off your nose to spite your face.
You’re right about one thing though. My wife, son, and grandchildren are the most important things in my life. And it is, for that very reason, why I’m so concerned about our President. In the words of Tom Steyer, “Trump is a fraud and a failure”
My confidence is growing daily that by Nov 2020 America will come together and ‘resoundingly’ vote him out of office. We can then wakeup from our national nightmare and once again start moving our country forward.
SoulCrusher says
Man, you are one brainwashed Democrat. O’Bama did inherit one of the worst economical situations possible. He did some things like bailouts that I did not agree with, but it may have worked. Fast forward eight years and the we have Trump who did inherit a debt that was manufactured by both the Bush and O’Bama Administrations that totaled about $19.947 trillion. Let’s just call it $20 trillion for shits and giggles and we now see the debt was increased by about $9.3 trillion by O’Bama while Bush manufactured about $10.626 trillion in debt. Friendly reminder to both R’s & D’s that Clinton left office with practically a clean slate as far as National Debt is concerned. Back to Trump. He is on pace to probably equal or surpass O’Bama’s debt if he gets 8 years, but I still like what he’s doing for the most part. Look, Bush let his family’s personal war with Saddam Hussein take precedence over the war on terror and left this country in a shambles financially due to general incompetence that any fool just looking at him knew was going to happen. O’Bama kept the country afloat, but sometimes you got to let a sinking ship go to the bottom. Those bailouts were just beacons to the money laundering corporations and some have never been paid back. Probably never will. At this point it could be said that the government owns those corporations and that’s just one step closer to the DemoSocioNazio dream you Democrats keep pushing for. I know you guys think it’s great for Lenin’s ideas, but you could find yourself left with a Stalin or Hitler situation by doing what you want to do. It only takes one nut to spark the next World War and your party seems to nurture nuts. I like the nut we have. If he disposes of the UN, the UN treaty law and drops the FED leaving those BIG banks in England holding the bag, I’ll call him KING. This is OUR COUNTRY and we need to start acting like it. No foreign power or entity controls WE THE PEOPLE and we need to force this issue while we can. You will not regain control of our country with a Democratic puppet calling the shots because the Democratic Party is out of its mind right now and will return this country to self destructive policies of giving everything away to those whom did nothing to deserve the American dream. If WE THE PEOPLE don’t get a fair shake then why is everyone in the world supposed to come here and live off of WE THE PEOPLE’s dime? If a Democrat wins in 2020, it will be the worse thing for this country and the REAL national nightmare will begin as a Democratic stooge will hand China our debit card again. That’s the facts as I see them….
Bob says
Get ready! It’s no longer a case of ‘if’ a democrat wins in 2020. The only question is, which one it will be? You look at a Democratic victory as a ‘national nightmare’ I see it as a “national awakening. My only concern is how our current President will react to his electoral ass kicking. He is such an unstable guy. God only knows what he will do.
Just the facts says
If under trump the economy is booming and unemployment is basically zero we can’t pay our bills now…. when can we? At least OBama reduced the deficit every year but the orange shitgibbon reversed that, on line to be a yearly trillion plus deficit. Once petro dollars are no longer US currency we will officially become a banana republic. A loaf of bread will be $1000.00
SoulCrusher says
@ Bob – I’ m not so sure I’d believe all those polls. I know the one’s back in 2016 seemed to poll HRC & DJT within points of each other and the one’s we are seeing now show a wider margin, but I’m not so sure I’d believe that. It seems to me Trump has gained support and I’m just not buying it.
@ Just the facts – As long as we have control of the gold in Fort Knox, we could actually dictate practically the entire world’s currency valuation. The question is, is it still there? Quite frankly, I’d prefer the gold standard anyway because right now your dollars are dictated by a consumable commodity. Gold is gold and he who holds the gold is supreme. Our currency should be based on something tangible and not on the oils of long dead bodies that basically get burned. Keep going the route you Dems want to take us and you may actually see that $1,000 loaf of bread. Just look at Venezuela and be careful what you wish for.
Bob says
“Maher doubles down on call for recession to oust Trump; says it would be ‘very worth’ it”
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/maher-doubles-down-on-call-for-a-recession-to-oust-trump-itd-be-very-worth-it
Thought about you when I read this. Maybe if you ask him nicely, Mike might embed the video. Of course, you will have to promise you won’t gloat. Have a great weekend.
SoulCrusher says
Well, I think hoping for a recession isn’t proper and I don’t need to see the video because I watched him last week saying the same thing. That’s a bad thing to hope for just to ensure a Democrat wins the Presidency.
Mike Callahan says
Trumps game is to combine corrupt immigration policy with broken political promises.
And his political pawns will fall for everything the racist demagogue says.
Trump has corrupted our Democracy with his lies and white nationalism bigotry!
American voters will not be fooled by this clown in 2020!
He will go down in history as our worst President!
Mark my words!
Bob says
Mike, like I said before, ‘Trump is a complete and utter abomination’. Each and every day his presidency presents a clear and present danger for our country. God help us
PO PO says
File Date: 08/13/2019
Document Name: Correspondence
Interesting don’t you think?
Bob says
AIPAC splits with Trump and Netanyahu, backs visit by Omar and Tlaib to Israel
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/aipac-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-israel/index.html
Good for AIPAC. They did the ‘right’ thing.
SoulCrusher says
Well, if they don’t like Israel why would they want to go? Maybe to start trouble? It doesn’t matter anyhow because Israel just barred them from entering the Country. The Israelis government doesn’t want foreign nationals entering their Country to start conflict between their citizens and the Palestinians and other Muslims. I personally have no opinion about them going to Israel but find it amusing that they got themselves barred from entry into Israel because of rhetoric which instills hatred and violence. Funny, isn’t that what all you guys say Trump is doing? Once again, complete and utter hypocrisy by Democratic morons who demonize their political foes for the same crap they do all the time. Just for the record, put Omar on that plane and drop her off in Somalia where she belongs….she’s straight up Al Qaida and we all know it.
Bob says
I believe it’s more of a Netanyahu thing than Israeli thing. The Prime Minister has his own scandals to deal with and also, he is clearly a Trump suck up. Like our President, he’s paranoid and believes walls & barriers is the way to go. Soon both of them will be out of office and our countries can begin to more forward again.
BTW, Omar is no more straight up Al Qaeda than the man in the moon and “we all know it”.
SoulCrusher says
Yeah, I’m sure Israel will remove the walls and fences that separate the two peoples as soon as Netanyahu is no longer Prime Minister, not. There has been no real peace between the two peoples since, well, ever. Are you crazy? Do you hear what you’re saying? There has been cease fires, but never any peace and you know this. There is no such thing as moving forward in Israel while Hamas is shooting rockets into Israel on Iran’s dime. Yes, I know you Democrats love Radical Muslim traitors against the United States like Omar and T’laib. You can defend them all you want but they are both probably in charge of a terrorist cell from whichever States they’re claiming they hail from and REAL Americans know that both of those two women are the enemies of WE THE PEOPLE.
SoulCrusher says
Well Bob, it looks like they are going to allow T’laib entry into Israel after all on some humanitarian grounds of letting her visit her 90 year old grandmother. There is nothing wrong with that. However, if she goes there and starts some trouble during the visit don’t expect her to be allowed there again. They still aren’t allowing the Al Qaeda queen, Omar, entry into their country and I have no problem with that decision either. Why allow an enemy of your country entry just because they are an American Congresswoman?
Bob says
“Bel Air Mayor Burdette says she’s not running again as election season nears”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/harford/aegis/cng-ag-aberdeen-belair-elections-0814-20190814-wujljnf6kzfjdnz3pq4zu3ag6m-story.html
Is this good news or bad news for Bel Air?
Mike Callahan says
The Aegis buried the big political news in this article .
The headline should have been:
MELVIN TAYLOR TO RUN FOR ABERDEEN MAYOR , INCUMBENT MAYOR PATRICK MCGRADY RETIRES! CANT BEAT TAYLOR!
Bob says
“Fired Annapolis police chief Scott Baker is Harford County’s new liquor board general manager”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/harford/aegis/cng-ag-scott-baker-liquor-board-0816-20190815-7p7qigpqlbf5zbxofpdtfwxmwu-story.html
EJK says
Good Old Boy network taking care of its own…..If these guys had to work a real job they would die.
Bob says
If you’re right and it’s a “good old boy network thing’, that’s not a good thing. What is it with our county? How does the hiring process work for such a position?
Bob says
“Joe Biden confuses Burlington, Iowa, with Burlington, Vt., in latest gaffe”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-confuses-burlington-iowa-for-burlington-vt-in-latest-gaffe
I hope this recent rash of slips are of the ‘tongue’ and not of the ‘mind’. Come on Joe. buck up. You are making it very difficult for me to deal with ‘The real just for’ and ‘SoulCrusher on the Dagger.
Bob says
“Trump calls out Antifa as Portland, Orgeon, braces for dueling protests”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/17/us/portland-protests-saturday/index.html
Again, Mr. President you are making the problem of violence in our country worse. Your tweets are not helping things. Please stop!
SoulCrusher says
Portland could’ve denied the protest permits due to potential conflict in dueling protests as those are legitimate reasons to deny a permit. This is of Portland’s creation and is Portland’s problem. To critique a stupid decision is not inciting violence. Instead of condemning the President, maybe you should condemn the mayor of Portland.
Bob says
I disagree. So far It looks like the city Portland and its mayor has done a pretty good job of keeping the far-left (like Antifa) and the far-right (like Proud Boys) separated and non=violent Where our President made a mistake was calling out Antifa and ignoring the far-right extremist.
SoulCrusher says
Well, I think it may have been a good idea for the two groups to protest on different days. As a matter of fact, I believe it’s probably in the interest of public safety for NO groups to protest simultaneously when ANTIFA has a scheduled protest, regardless if they are far anything. We can disagree on that.
SoulCrusher says
By the way Bob, the only thing the city of Portland and their Mayor have done well is set up a stage for something bad to happen. Dueling protests in any environment where ANTIFA, sponsored by the DSA, is planned to be there is probably a bad idea. Let me remind everyone that ANTIFA protesters get paid by the DSA to protest and reap havoc where ever they go. They are not protesting fascism and actually are the fascists. Anyone who sees ANTIFA as a shining hope for the so called Democracy of the Democratic Party should look back to Pre World War II Germany and recall the Brown Shirt’s of that wonderful thousand year Reich that didn’t even last a decade. ANTIFA doesn’t consist of protesters and should be labeled the terrorist organization that it actually is.
Bob says
Hey SoulCrusher, . It’s my understanding that the The FBI now classifies the far-right ‘Proud Boys’ as an “extremist group with ties to white nationalism. What’s you take on them?
SoulCrusher says
I don’t know much about them, but I’m getting involved with any type of organization that follows any sort of racism. I stay away from any type of gang or hate organization. I already have enough hatred built up in my soul. However, I know who the REAL enemies are and they call themselves the government. That is who we should all be concerned about instead of letting political factions who run the government continually keeping us divided. United we stand, divided we fall and it doesn’t matter if they claim to be a R or a D, they specialize in divide and conquer campaigns and use it to control the population. The government is your real enemy and the quicker everyone figures it out the better. Just for the record, the government of PORTLAND is who allowed the crap going on in Portland and is just as guilty if any thing bad has happened during those dueling protests. As far as it goes, if ANTIFA is involved I wouldn’t be involved, but if I had to be there I’d make sure I did unto others before they were able to do unto me. That’s just the way it is….
SoulCrusher says
“not getting involved”
Bob says
My ‘least favorite’ and without a doubt our President’s ‘most dangerous’ adviser. Read about this guy… it’s enough to make me cry into my diet soda. He is a real piece of work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/17/us/politics/stephen-miller-immigration-trump.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/politics/stephen-miller-trump-immigration/?noredirect=on
Bob says
NEWS ALERT: Just found out Denmark has rejected our President’s application’s to purchase Greenland due to his financial history of bankruptcies, non-payment of contractors/employees and hiring undocumented workers. Also, they were concerned, as he will be unemployed come Jan 2021.
However, they did approve the construction of a Trump Tower Hotel and adjoining Putt-Putt golf course.
Amy says
What is the difference between trump and Greenland?
Greenland isn’t for sale.
Joel says
Partisan witch.
Mike Callahan says
Bernie Sanders has a plan for zero tolerance of police brutality!!!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1163226087897346048
Bob says
“Arkansas Woman Charged Over Holding Four Black Teenagers at Gunpoint”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/us/black-teens-fundraising-gunpoint-jerri-kelly.html
It’s this kind of garbage that gives the state of Arkansas a bad name. Assuming the facts as laid out are accurate it’s yet another commentary on the endemic racism in America. What this woman did was outrageous. If she truly felt threatened all she had to do was remain in her house and call 911.
I’m sure the memory of this incident will remain with these 4 black high school students for many years, maybe their entire lives In America blacks and others of color are treated like second class citizens… like they are the enemy we should fear.
We must do better than this. I hope, when they are older, they are able to look back without anger and say that was ‘then’ and ‘now’ things are better. I hope so
Bob says
Our President’s team (Kudlow & Navarro) was out in full force this past weekend trying to tamp down the recession fears.
“More than 70% of economists think a US recession will strike by the end of 2021”
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/next-recession-trump-survey-shows-most-economists-predict-downturn-2021-2019-8-1028456445
I sure hope these economists are wrong. The pertinent question is what we must do to prevent this dire prediction, if correct, from coming to pass.
Bob says
Today, the New York Times published the printed magazine version of the ‘1619 Project’. The essays that comprise this project are also available online. I urge everyone – righties, lefties and those in between to check it out. Below is a PBS News Hour video of the woman who is responsible for this project. She has been working on this for years. Do yourself a favor. Check it out. The essays are so informative and moving.
https://youtu.be/Q14BTdS6BRc
Bob says
“Bank watchdogs approve rule to loosen ban on risky Wall Street trades”
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/458117-bank-watchdogs-approve-rule-to-loosen-ban-on-risky-wall-street-trades
Here we go again! Let the banks build up risk like they did in 2008, and lead us by
the nose into another financial meltdown. They figure, if their investments crash,
Uncle Sam will bail them out and not hold them legally responsible. Banks,
especially the big ones, need to be closely regulated. They are a cornerstone of American Capitalism.
Bob says
Our President (The self-anointed – ‘Chosen One’) is unglued. His tweets and public ramblings are downright erratic and irrational. It was bad enough when he would change his position on the issues monthly or weekly. Now they change daily or even from the beginning to the end of a sentence.
I suspect that the VP and the cabinet members are not sleeping very well. Serious consideration of the 25th Amendment is a new reality. Clearly, the President is becoming increasingly unstable and unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.
The real Just for says
I am curious Bob. It is very apparent that you are not a President Trump fan. You have professed on prior post that you are always interested in entering in to a dialogue with people who have opposing points of view in order to possibly establish common ground. With that being said what do you think about the Hillary Clinton issue. She clearly obstructed justice by ignoring subpoenas, destroying requested evidence, providing fraudulent information to investigators etc. You seem to be a reasonably intelligent person. I think, and we both know, if she were elected President none of her highly suspect and what I consider criminal behavior, would have been addressed. She would have had the authority to appoint a partisan AG, DOJ Director etc. and everything would have “gone away” If even some of these allegations occurred this was an extreme travesty of justice. How can you or any Democrat rationalize, justify, or ignore these things? Let’s forget about President Trump and talk about this for a while. Just curious why the liberal media has not and will not discuss or even acknowledge these events.
? says
The real question is why didn’t trump and the republicans do anything about it when they had total control?
SoulCrusher says
Because the bureaucrats defend and cover up issues for each other. When are you going to realize that neither political party is acting without the other? Both sides of the aisle have flip flopped over and over on the issues that they stake their politics on and it is for the specific purpose of conning you out of your vote. HRC was never going to be “indicted”. Trump will never be “indicted” either. WTF is wrong with you idiots? The government is a bunch of greedy blood suckers that are stealing your money every pay check in an interest free loan you give them every pay period. How the hell do you think they line their treasonous coffers? R’s & D’s are creatures of the same origin and they use politics to screw you and the American people out of your money because that is all they care about. Get it thru your head! Neither side is lawful and both are treasonous. They are in violation of their oaths and in total breach of the Constitutional contracts. ALL POWER AND AUTHORITY of the government is forfeit because of the covenants have been broken in full. There is no taxation. There is no statute law. Everything they have done is forfeit by the actions of elected officials who betray you and your family every day. There is no honor among politicians and all politicians are thieves. What do we call someone who takes something from another person without consent or assumed consent? We call them thieves. End of the story. Furthermore, if you think you will receive a fair trial or that a court will operate in a lawful manner then you are an idiot. The courts are part of the treason and every Judge, Prosecutor, Police Officer and Lawyer is a complete traitor against the United States. That’s just the way it is.
Bob says
I’m not ignoring what she did. I just don’t believe her actions, albeit extremely careless, rise to the level of criminal activity. I think the media, liberal and otherwise, have covered Clinton’s email scandal ad nauseam. Of course, if there is any real new information, indicating criminal behavior on her part, Trump’s DOJ Attorney General would open up a new investigation immediately. Until then we are stuck discussing the clear and present danger that Donald J. Trump poses for our country.
The real Just for says
Wow! All I can say is that I hope you never sit on a jury in a case where someone I cared about was the victim. You are not only a liberal you are delusional . All I can say is “wow”
Bob says
I’m sure you’re relieved to hear this. I have never sat on a jury. What’s it like?
SoulCrusher says
Some would say that she may have obstructed justice and tampered with evidence by destroying evidence…..
Bob says
Although “some” would, I believe ‘most’ wouldn’t.
SoulCrusher says
That’s because “most” are partisan fools and “some” look at the facts….That’s the problem with this world now a days, unless you’re part of the “most” your opinion becomes toast.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, perhaps you should have been a poet.
SoulCrusher says
Actually, I wish I never existed at all. I have been praying for one of your fine upstanding sheriff’s to come down here and murder me for the crime of being an American who grew and smoked his own pot, but they just won’t do it. Maybe the Feds will do it?
The real Just for says
Ignoring subpoenas, destroying evidence, smashing personal cell phones, deleting thousands of requested emails and texts, using a private server for government business and saying she was only talking to family and passing on recipes (thousands of times). Only just extremely carelessness. Come on Bob I thought you had a better game than that. Even Mike Callahan’s buddy said on his program that her behavior was over the top. You and I both know what it would be called if either of us did the same thing. It would be called a crime. I used to have limited respect for your intellect but your liberal perception of events goes beyond the limits. I would strongly suggest you seek professional help for a very possible delusional disorder. If you go you may want to suggest that your blind hatred for the President might be a cause. Good luck I will be praying for you. Also for the record, these issues WILL be addressed in due time. A good card player always holds on to his big hole card until the trap is set. Stay tuned.
Bob says
“Trump knocks news of CNN hiring ex-FBI official McCabe”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/458643-trump-knocks-news-of-cnn-hiring-ex-fbi-official-mccabe
Please, Mr. President, stop whining. If Fox News can hire Sarah Huckabee Sanders it’s appropriate that CNN hires Andrew McCabe.
Mike Callahan says
” Do we need a recession to get rid of Trump?” – Bill Maher
Just the facts says
We don’t “need” one but it is the surest way to get rid of him. Don’t expect him to go easy because when he loses he is on the short road to prison. He has already been found guilty on felony charges of campaign finance violations, the same one that have his personal lawyer sitting in a cell as we speak.
Bob says
At the G7 our President, once again, embarrassed himself and our country—’second thoughts’, ‘regrets’, ‘reversals’. Apologies to the rest of the world. Please bear with us! Don’t despair! This terrible nightmare will end, come November 2020, when we vote Donald J. Trump out of office.
Bob says
Narly 200 CEOs just agreed on an updated definition of “the purpose of a corporation”
https://qz.com/work/1690439/new-business-roundtable-statement-on-the-purpose-of-companies/
I concur with these CEOs in their commitment to “lead their companies “for the benefit of all stakeholders – customers, employees, suppliers, communities and shareholders”
The realization of their vision of ‘conscious capitalism’ would be an important step forward. We are ‘all’ stakeholders in American Capitalism.
SoulCrusher says
But you guys don’t want capitalism.
Bob says
Like I’ve said before, the problem is not capitalism. The issue is our current inadequately regulated & controlled version of such. ‘Conscious Capitalism’ is a step in the right direction. See below link for its credo:
https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/credo
It’s inclusive. It’s capitalism with a heart and soul.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, I’m sorry but I have not heard one Presidential candidate for the Democratic Party even utter one word about “Conscious Capitalism” and have heard many of them endorse another system of financial woes that has never succeeded in any country on this earth. We all know what the Democratic Party is and what it wants. The Democratic Party should be banned and every member of the Democratic Party, even private citizens, should be indicted under Article 3 Section 3 provisions and sentenced to the full penalty of the law you guys are breaking. You wish to wage war against WE THE PEOPLE? WE THE PEOPLE now declare war on YOU!
Bob says
SoulCrusher, You’re right—not one democratic candidate has said anything about ‘Conscious Capitalism’. It’s not so much about politics & party. It’s about making America stronger and more inclusive.
SoulCrusher says
If it’s not about politics then why was this comment submitted in the same thread as why Bill Maher wants a recession to get rid of Trump. Look, the Democratic Party is not about inclusion, it’s about unless you conform to our idealism you will be persecuted for not being a member of our party. Your party is the party that says I can’t work in any field or job in this country unless I obey the false Code of Rules and Regulations instilled by the treason of your corrupt party. America can NOT be stronger while the Democratic Party is dividing us and waging war against us using the fictional statutory law you traitors make. The Constitution is the ONLY law, everything else is the “prima facia” evidence of law which is NOT law at all. I have been persecuted by the Democratic treason of your Party and by the treasonous Harford County Circuit Court. At this time I would like to declare the Harford County Circuit Court an instrument of treason against the United States and Maryland the state brought on by the treason of the Democratic Party.
Bob says
I didn’t say ‘Conscious Capitalism’ is “not about politics. I said, it’s not “so much” about politics and party” The distinction I was trying to make is that politics and party is not its ‘primary’ driver and motivator.
Also, I don’t believe our recent comments come out of the ‘Bill Mayer want a recession’ thread. They are part of new thread on ‘Conscious Capitalism I started yesterday at 2:12PM.
Bob says
Can capitalism be socially positive?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/can-capitalism-be-socially-positive/2019/08/27/77753e3a-c832-11e9-be05-f76ac4ec618c_story.html?noredirect=on
SoulCrusher, This opinion piece from the WAPO Editorial Board just came out an hour or so ago. It goes to our discussion on ‘Conscious Capitalism’. Below is a quote from the article:
“Yet the 181 signatories are eager to remind the public of their long-standing sense of responsibility, so as to help restore public trust in capitalism generally and big companies specifically. (Jeff Bezos, who owns The Post, was among those who signed, in his capacity as chief executive of Amazon.”
SoulCrusher says
Bob, I’m sorry that you missed the boat in aspect to what “reality” really is. Corporations don’t care about people or “stakeholders” because their only concern is the “stockholder”. NO ONE has any “stake” in a corporation except for those who own shares of the corporation. Corporations are meant to generate revenue, not socially reform the public or even better the public. What you are doing is mistaking a “corporation” for a “collective”. There is a big difference between the two. If you believe any corporation wants to help Americans and improve our lives then you must actually believe Trump wants to nuke a hurricane to change the course of the storm because no corporation give a flying crap about you, me or any other person. They just don’t want to be subject to a lawsuit and that’s the only reason they give a shit about you or me. That’s the bottom line because the SoulCrusher says so….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, would you consider unfair of me to describe you as cynical person?
SoulCrusher says
I’m not cynical. I’m realistic. I am a product of my experiences and I have only been shown complete and utter hatred against me my entire life. If you don’t like what I type you always have the option of not reading it. The only guarantee I will ever offer is that I will type the truth, speak the truth and hate each and every one of you the same until you do something that makes me hate you more than others. I AM HATRED and I like it. Even my family and so called friends hate me and it brings joy to my black little heart. Hatred is all I’ve got and all I know because hatred is all I’ve been shown. C’mon Bob, you know you love to hate me. Everyone else does so you should join the crowd.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, Can’t do it. Hate is just not in my genes. I have never hated anyone and to the best of my knowledge no one has ever hated me. The insidious thing about hate is that it consumes the hater.
SoulCrusher says
Then why do you back the Democratic Party that spawns the hatred that created someone like me? I am a product of the Democratic processes of creating hatred. Without the Democratic Party there would be no Code of Rules and Regulations that has resulted in the public being persecuted by fake law and treason authorized by the Democratic Party. You do realize that the policy of your party is to legalize treason and destroy all liberty?
Bob says
“Trump floated nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting US: report”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/458765-trump-floated-nuking-hurricanes-to-stop-them-from-hitting-us-report
Please, please someone, anyone tell me this is just fake news.
Bob says
“Trump vents over Axios report on hurricane nuking idea”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/459061-trump-vents-over-axios-report-on-hurricane-nuking-idea
Below is a quote from the above article:
“How does this make you feel about Donald Trump having his hands on our nation’s nuclear code? Yeah, we don’t feel so great about it either.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, if you believe Trump will actually try and use a nuclear bomb to alter the course of a hurricane then you’ve done lost your mind. The man says things that if those same words came out of anyone else’s mouth you’d laugh because you would know it’s a joke. A lot of satire and sarcasm comes out of Trump’s mouth and you can’t blame him after just watching one episode of the Morning Joe Treason Brigade sponsored by the Democratic cunt Mika. Look, the Democratic media is just plain stupid. They quote polls that consist of a couple hundred people and expect us ALL to believe the polling data as a national consensus. The only national consensus that exists is that most Americans now believe the Democratic Party is the party of morons, idiots, fools and traitors. You need to slow down and actually think about what you’re typing. If you can’t recognize sarcastic humor then maybe the Democratic idiots that run the educational system can add “Sarcastic Witticism 101” to the curriculum of dumbing down the American public so you can take a course on what reality is…..
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I have to burst your bubble on this one. You give our President too much credit He can hardly utter a coherent sentence, much less use sarcastic humor & satire. Trump has no sense of humor. Come on, admit it. In your heart of hearts, you know I’m right – our President is a bonafide doofus.
SoulCrusher says
I said from day 1 that Donald Trump is about the least presidential person we could have in the White House. Before he was elected, I said that headlining a Wrestle Mania was good enough to disqualify him from being a President. I think he has a tremendous sense of humor and I think you guys take a lot of his comments way too seriously. I think he purposely says things to incite the left and I think he enjoys controversy way too much. However, he is our President and I approve of the Donald. I think he’s done exactly what he was elected to do and I think he has tried to fulfill most of his campaign promises, even though some he fell short on. With the do nothing Congress that has been in place for decades, nobody could get much done and it’s the fault of both political aisles. I actually like Trump 100% more than I did when he got elected. He is the only figure in politics that I think has any concern about the people or our country. I HATE ALL POLITICIANS, except for Trump because the rest of them are traitors.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, here are our President’s latest “Sarcastic Witticisms” He wants the border wall to be ‘black’. He has directed aides to seize land and disregard environmental concerns to build the wall. Also, he told aides don’t worry about breaking the law because he would pardon them. He is such a funny guy.
His behavior is becoming so erratic that he is beginning to lose the ‘Dirty Thirty’ and even Fox News.
SoulCrusher says
Well, in my opinion, the border is a military issue and he can make it as “black” as he wants to. There is nothing wrong with utilizing the power of eminent domain to acquire land for securing the border as the power is used by the Federal and State governments all the time to address other concerns, so why not use it for border security? I’m not in favor of a wall, but I’m not in favor of a lot of things that our government has done, so oh well. I think he has gained support, just like Bill Maher says and I don’t think the next election is going to be as easy to win against him as you Democrats believe. The Democratic Party has become completely unhinged and I don’t see much in the Democratic idealism being correct right now. It is my opinion that the Democratic Party represents fraud, war and treason, just like the current government that has enslaved the people to the commercial codes of the UN, the HOLY SEE, the Nation of Palestine, foreign banks and the BAR Association. If we could just get rid of that which enslaves the American people, we could all be free again…
Bob says
Yet another, embarrassing performance by our President on the world stage today. It’s impossible for him to answer a question without going off on some nonsensical, almost incoherent, rambling. I’m sure anyone (even ‘The real just for’) on this forum has a better grasp of the issues and could do better.
Bob says
“Department of Justice declines to prosecute Comey over leaked memos”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/department-justice-declines-prosecute-comey-over-leaked-memos-n1047706
“James Comey violated FBI policies with memos on Trump discussions, IG report says”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-inspector-general-says-comey-violated-policies-with-memos-documenting-private-conversations-with-trump
LMAO says
Comey was totally exonerated and found to have mishandled documents concerning trumps illegal activities.
Big fail by trump and his QAnon wacky supporters.
Bob says
Mixing up and jumbling of facts by Joe Biden is a concern. Please Joe stop this stuff and get your act together.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/2019/08/29/b5159676-c9aa-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html?noredirect=on
Bob says
“Biden: ‘Essence’ of false wartime story was true”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-essence-of-false-wartime-story-was-true
Come on Joe, let it go. Just be more careful from here on out.
Bob says
President Trump cancelled his trip to Poland. He is concerned that Hurricane Dorian is heading toward Florida and in particular Mara a Lago . I sure hope he is not thinking about using nuclear bombs to guide the storm toward a Democratic State. 🙂
Bob says
“Texas loosens firearm laws hours after the state’s latest mass shooting left 7 dead”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/01/us/texas-new-gun-laws-trnd/index.html
When will the people of Texas ever learn that ‘more guns’ and ‘less restrictive laws’ does not work? The solution is ‘less guns’ and ‘more restrictive laws’
North Harford Democrat says
I agree, a lot of gun owners follow the law and support law enforcement m. Any new gun laws they will follow, and don’t let them fool you thinking they can determine what is “constitutional” or not.
These people who say otherwise are full of shit. These are the type of people who will be begging Police Officers not to take you to jail.
Look over on the Maryland Shooters site if you want to see what a “gun nut” is.
SoulCrusher says
No, you’re just a complete traitor that should be executed under Article 3 Section 3 provisions of treason. It would be my pleasure to hang you until you are dead. There is no authority ordained to the Federal or State government in ANY Constitution to regulate firearms and ALL laws pertaining to firearm regulation are unconstitutional. ALL Law Enforcement who enforce these laws of treason are acting as foreign entities using the fiction of the Commerce Clause to give the government an authority that simply does NOT exist. The militia act can NOT be used to do this because there is no invasion of State or Federal sovereignty and the general public has NOT been conscripted into the service of a militia. You can NOT profess a power or authority that has NOT been ordained by the people and everyone who believes or supports your idealism is either a brainwashed idiot or a complete traitor against the United States. The 2nd Amendment’s true purpose is to prevent tyranny and you can NOT prevent tyranny by being outgunned or NOT possessing an equal firepower to prevent that tyranny. We tolerate gun laws because there are some seriously sick people out there that believe they have the power to take the lives of innocents and perform acts of horrific brutality in order to support criminal behavior defined by common law. WE THE PEOPLE do NOT support the regulation of Constitutional rights on behalf of a centralized government designed to promote a tyranny of the centralized government. It is time to completely destroy the Democratic Party on the grounds of Article 3 Section 3 provisions of treason and it is time to outlaw any political party that seeks to steal the rights of all because of the actions of a few. You guys make me sick every time I here about banning certain guns because some idiot goes on a shooting spree. Let me remind your treasonous asses that there is 350 million people in this country and you scumbag traitors want to limit the rights of everyone because of the actions of probably on millionth of a percent of the population. It doesn’t work that way. Pass your laws and be executed for the treason you are committing against our Constitutions and our Country. Period. End of discussion because the SoulCrusher says so…..
North Harford Democrat says
I’m sure there may be some Gun Owners who subscribe to your opinion but nearly all of them would rather not have the public shame, job loss, mortgage loss, family loss, debt, and whatever else would come with being charged with hypothetical crimes from changes in gun law.
Feel free to prove me wrong. A lot of gun owners I’ve had conversation with are always very proud to announce they are “law abiding” so they will obey all future gun laws with excited enthusiasm.
If you’re so inclined to believe your opinion on the matter is right, offer your services to gun rights organizations.
Bob says
Our country has ‘finally’ turned the corner. Long overdue gun control laws are on the horizon. The NRA is on the ropes. They ended 2018 in the red. During this past, year Colonel North resigned and Wayne LaPierre has had to deal with financial scandal.
The vast majority of gun owners, not only would abide by reasonable gun control laws, they would actively support them. The good news is the NRA’s death grip on our politicians is beginning to loosen. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Change is coming!
SoulCrusher says
Prove you wrong?!? Are you insane? Where does the authority to make the statutory law come from? It doesn’t exist. If there is no Constitutional Authority ordained by the people then there is no Jurisdiction. Without Jurisdiction there is only fraud, war and treason. The people aren’t obeying the law, they are being conned out of their rights by the mafia that the Democratic Party has instilled into the government. The Codes, Rules and Regulations are that of government employees and can only be applied to WE THE PEOPLE if there is a VICTIM. You DO NOT take the rights of 350 million people because of a few bad actors. That’s just the way it is and if the people finally wake up they will fight back. There is no law unless WE THE PEOPLE say there is a law and you need to get that thru your thick skull because the age of your supposed Democracy is over. This is a Constitutional Republic and no amount of Democratic treason will ever change that fact.
SoulCrusher says
@ Bob – It isn’t about the NRA. It’s about our government claiming to have authority when they do NOT. I hate the government for the treason I have been forced to endure. I completely denounce the STATE OF MARYLAND and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA as both are treasonous corporations of an illegal government instilled by the United Nations, the BAR Association, THE HOLY SEE and the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is TREASON and that is all there is to it. I have to admit that I don’t think that mentally impaired people should be allowed to own guns, but I also know that there is NO AUTHORITY for the STATE OF MARYLAND or the Federal government to regulate guns. It simply is NOT in Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution, nor is there any authority to regulate firearms in the Maryland Constitution. Without a specific grant of authority by the people whom have ordained the government there is no jurisdiction over the subject matter and we know this from Marbury v. Madison (1803). The illegal and fake government that you ALL support is invalid and treasonous. That’s just the way it is and in my opinion every government employee is guilty of Article 3 Section 3 treason against the United States.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I disagree. The problem up until ‘now’ has been ‘all’ about the NRA and their stranglehold on our politicians. They have controlled our representatives far too long. Finally, the pendulum is starting to swing back.
As far as our Constitution, let me draw your attention to the last paragraph of Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution:
“To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”
It seems to me that this section of our Constitution clearly allows for the making of ‘all laws’ (including gun control ones) deemed necessary by our government, department or Officer thereof. Remember, you can condemn and denounce our government all you want, but that’s all WE THE PEOPLE got
SoulCrusher says
@ Bob – I am totally aware of what the Constitution says and I think you’re missing the part where it says “necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers”. They can’t use any Clause of Commerce or that which is necessary and proper except for the execution of the powers listed in Article 1 Section 8. The government can not give itself a power or authority that was NOT ordained by the people. That includes regulation of firearms. There is no authority to regulate firearms in the US Constitution and it is expressly forbidden to regulate firearms, but the Feds can regulate a militia once that militia is called upon. Nor is there any authority granted to regulate firearms in the Maryland Constitution. You have to remember it is about authority that was granted to the government and there is no authority to control a subject that was not ordained.
“[p]owers not granted (to any government) are prohibited.” United States v. Butler, 297 U.S 1, 68 (1936).
Bob says
Again, gun control laws are both ‘necessary and proper’ and they should be enacted to promote and insure the ‘general welfare’ of the United States.
SoulCrusher says
and once again Bob, there is no law unless WE THE PEOPLE say there is a law because WE THE PEOPLE are the body that authorized the government in the first place. ANY law created that does not conform to the limitations of the Constitution is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, NULL and VOID. Without authority there is no jurisdiction and without jurisdiction there is only fraud and treason.
SoulCrusher says
“The government of the United States… is one of limited powers. It can exercise authority over no subjects, except those which have been delegated to it. Congress cannot, by legislation, enlarge the federal jurisdiction, nor can it be enlarged under the treaty making power” Mayor of New Orleans v. United States, 10 Pet. 662, 736
SoulCrusher says
Bob, gun regulation is Unconstitutional. You can claim the necessary and proper clause all you want, but the government can only use that which is necessary and proper to conduct the power and authority of that which was ordained to it. The government can not give itself that which was not ordained as the only authority the government has is that which was ordained. The general welfare of the United States has nothing to do with gun regulation as I have already told you that to strip the Constitutional rights of everyone because a few insane people have done something unspeakable with their rights. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to prevent a tyranny of a centralized government and you can not prevent a tyranny by being inadequately armed in the face of that tyranny. Your government is not your friend. I AM living proof that the government is a treasonous group of scumbags that have absolutely no honor or integrity in their entire being and exists to terrorize and destroy people who haven’t harmed a soul, in total violation of the common law of the United States Constitution. YOUR GOVERNMENT is an illegal, unconstitutional group of traitors who are acting as foreign agents in the United States to enforce the statutes of the traitors in Congress and the Maryland Legislature. They have no authority to regulate us in any way and everything they do to harm, destroy and murder the public is complete and utter treason against WE THE PEOPLE who pay their God damn salaries. Your government is SOOOO treasonous that they have given the Maryland Government Employees a general pension system in total violation of Article 3 : Legislature section 59, as a reward to those whom have served the State, including those whom are committing treason on a daily basis by enforcing the Unconstitutional Annotated Code on the general public. The government employees will draw their weapons and murder you for a crime they say is a crime, but is not a crime at all because the statute they are enforcing is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Government Employees are murderous racketeers whom steal from those whom have not broken the common law and hand what they have stolen over to people like you who have embraced their treason. I’m sorry Bob, but nothing you can say will ever make gun regulation Constitutional and the Democratic Party and all its members are nothing but traitors against the United States.
SoulCrusher says
“…all laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void’ (Marbury v Madison, 5 US 1803 (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 170).
SoulCrusher says
“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” – Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491.
Bob says
Trump had erroneously stated that Hurricane Dorian threatened Alabama.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/?noredirect=on
On the lighter side, Joy Behar (The View) said it best, “just because you sleep with someone named ‘Stormy’ that doesn’t make you a weatherman.”
On the serious side, our President grows more & more confused and befuddled with each passing day.
Can Spot'em says
Seems pretty ironic in the comments section of an article about two thugs arrested in Havre de Grace someone posts about confusion and befuddlement of the president about a hurricane… just saying. Bob, thank you for the evening laugh… made my day.
The real Just for says
Haters are going to hate. Stay tuned and watch Bob have a melt down. It’s all about timing Mr. Bob. You are in for some sleepless nights. Lol it really doesn’t surprise me you are a Joy Behar fan.
Bob says
Looks like the ‘Sharpie Culprit’ has been identified and as suspected. no surprise -it appears to be our President. My suggestion for his staff – take away all his sharpie pens and place him in the corner on ‘time out’ until Jan 20, 2021.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/460201-report-trump-was-the-one-who-marked-up-dorian-map-with-sharpie
The Central Scrutinizer says
OMG…(hair on fire) we got trump now…..Jake…Wolf..Rachel…..he wrote on the NOAA map…we got him….!!!!! We knew he was Russian all along !!!
Bob says
“Three quadruple shootings in Baltimore, many with young victims, underscore tragic trend in city this year”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-quadruple-shootings-20190904-ntdeo52x3zamreyoxwhxmclliy-story.html
This is absolute insanity. What the hell is wrong with us? Is this the new normal? Children, forced to grow up in such a violent environment, just don’t have a chance. I hope the mayor of Baltimore can start to turn things around for the city before it’s too late.
Bob says
“Six shot, two fatally, in Baltimore since Saturday night”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/latest/bs-md-baltimore-crime-homicides-20190908-oryianwbyfexbgscqhytd6v7aa-story.html
Day after Day the gun violence continues unabated!
Bob says
“Gov. Hogan calls on Attorney General Frosh to prosecute more Baltimore criminal cases, slams city prosecutors”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-hogan-frosh-crime-20190918-lnr2eps7y5c3lllgloifuczvuu-story.html
Our Governor blames the prosecutors for being too lenient and dropping cases, whereas the Attorney General Frost want Hogan to provide funds for additional prosecutors. All the while the gun violence in Baltimore continues unabated.
Truth Be Told says
Frosh is an imbecile. There are SAO thru out the state of MD that have absolutely no accountability for their actions. Harford County is one of them. The current elected SA has done nothing to change the corruption and good old boy deals that go on in Harford County. The Judges continue to be part of the problem as well. The Defense attorneys go along for the ride because they can make money doing it. The average citizen gets screwed by a system that has no interest in actually getting to the truth. Its disgusting. Frosh couldn’t change it even if he had the capability to do so.
Then again the ignorant MD voters voted Frosh back into office. Therefore you deserve the result you get.
Bob says
“Six shot, one fatally, in Baltimore since Saturday night”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-overnight-shootings-20190922-jujabenz5jgfhav2yxw7krqelm-story.html
Yet, another weekend of gun violence. The madness goes on and on.
Bob says
“How Democracy Dies, American-Style”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/opinion/trump-democracy.html
“And it’s happening here as we speak. If you aren’t worried about the future of American democracy, you aren’t paying attention.”
SoulCrusher says
The last time I checked, the elections are still being held by Democratic standards in that the elected officials that represent the voters are determined by the popular vote. That is the extent of your Democracy and that is all that was ever promised by our fore fathers as far as your Democracy is concerned. The Presidency is the exception to that rule as it is decided by the outcome of the electoral college which is vital to the Republic as we can’t have the rule of the mob destroying our country, the way mobs destroy everything else. You are guaranteed the Democracy that we all have been promised by our fore fathers and nothing else. Just for the record, the law making process is supposed to be democratic as well, but the statutory laws that the Legislature makes is that of the government, not the people. The people are guaranteed “common law” and that guarantee has been trampled on by the Democracy you wish for because the statutory law is being enforced as the “law”, when it isn’t law at all. Unless you cause harm to another, you’re NOT a criminal no matter what the Legislature and all the traitors whom work for it say. This isn’t a Democracy. It’s a Constitutional Republic and that’s the bottom line because the Constitution says so…..
Bob says
Point taken. However, I don’t believe it’s a case of either or — ‘constitutional republic’ or ‘democracy’. Our government, as currently configured, is really a hybrid version of the two. Call it what you want. I agree with Krugman — “If you aren’t worried about the future of American democracy, you aren’t paying attention”.
Mike Callahan says
The USA is both a democracy and a republic.
Only half-wit far right Republicans claim we are only a Republic.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/13/is-the-united-states-of-america-a-republic-or-a-democracy/
SoulCrusher says
Without the Republic you wouldn’t get the Democratic elections that you refer to as your Democracy. Do you really think there was any Democracy under King George? Our fore fathers gave this unto you and you spit on it like it is something disgusting. What is truly disgusting is people advocating other people to give up their liberty in the name of your Democracy. So you can be safe, controlled and brain washed into government servitude. I don’t serve any damn government and the government is my enemy. Think otherwise and wait for the same Democratic traitors whom have done unto me, do unto you.
SoulCrusher says
Our government isn’t a hybrid version of anything. Our government has become a corporate treason machine and you have some sort of weird assumption that you are part of that corporation. You are not part of the corporation. You are “chattel” for the corporation and they rely on you for a tax and other forms of revenue that they are illegally stealing from every American. The government has simply defecated on the Constitution and is completely illegal. All power and authority of both the Federal and State governments are forfeit due to the government becoming a complete instrument of treason. The government can not give itself power or authority where that power or authority was not ordained. It’s very simple. We are being ruled by a treasonous straw government instilled by foreign nations and religious hypocrites whose only authority is the gun and the bullet. We are being ruled by a corporate mafia and you need to wake up before we lose our country all together.
Bob says
Good news, our President fired National Security Adviser, John Bolton. Finally, the President and I are in agreement. One less dangerous guy we have to worry about. Perhaps Fox News will take him back. Have you noticed how many people, who take a position with Trump eventually resign, get fired or just seem to wither away.
Now, if we could just get the President to resign, things would really be looking up.
Bob says
“Trump is not well”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/donald-trump-not-well/597640/
The author of this article, Peter Wehner, a conservative who served in the Reagan and both Bush administrations, says the following,
“Whether or not his disorders are diagnosable, the president’s psychological flaws are all too apparent. They were alarming when he took the oath of office; they are worse now. Every day Donald Trump is president is a day of disgrace. And a day of danger.
Bob says
Our President is coming to Baltimore today. In a tweet he described our city as ‘very dangerous and filthy place’. From what I understand all the right-winger ‘rats and rodents’ are getting ready to welcome him to town.
Bob says
Hey SoulCrusher, one of my ‘most-favorite’ Presidents will address one of your ‘most-favorite’ organizations this week. How bout we come together and agree to kick the UN out of the country and deport ‘The Donald’ to Russia. Does that work for you?
SoulCrusher says
I’ll go along with getting rid of the UN, but the Donald stays. He’s the only REAL American we have had as a President in years.
Bob says
What’s with the First Lady? — If looks could kill. She sure doesn’t look like a happy camper. She probably misses her NY home and wishes that ‘The Donald’ would just return to the White House alone. Despite the money and privilege the burden of being married to Trump is obviously a heavy one.
Bob says
Did you see the President’s news conference today? To say the least, his performance was downright scary. It’s almost impossible to follow what he is trying to say because his thought processes are so muddled and disjointed. I think he is beginning to feel trapped and backed into a corner. Our President is not well and in desperate need of help.
Bob says
8 Takeaways From the Whistle-Blower Complaint”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistleblower-declassified-report.html
Bob says
“Why Can’t We Get Rid of Bad Sheriffs?”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/opinion/sheriff-north-carolina-hitman.html
Does Harford County have sufficient oversight and control of our Sheriff?
Bob says
Trump Tweet from this morning: PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!
Mr. President, self-pity doesn’t suit you. The bigger issue is the profound harm your Presidency is causing our country.
Bob says
It looks like they caught the mouse that fell from the White House Press Room ceiling. A closer examination will probably show the mouse is really a rat. Perhaps we will have to call in ORKIN to take care of the Oval Office infestation.
Bob says
Trump was BEYOND THE PALE today at his news conference. He has truly lost it! He needs help, now!! I would like to apologize to the President of Finland for our President’s conduct. God help us!
Job says
I don’t think anyone who comes here really cares, just letting you know if for some reason you’re unaware.
You might get better results in whatever you’re trying to do by posting this on a national news Facebook, or something.
Bob says
I appreciate your feedback. Thank you!
Bob says
“9 things Donald Trump got wrong today on Ukraine, a whistleblower and the media”
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/oct/02/6-claims-donald-trump-got-wrong-today-ukraine-whis/
Bob says
“Hundreds of new Maryland laws take effect Tuesday, Oct. 1”
https://marylandreporter.com/2019/09/29/hundreds-of-new-maryland-laws-take-effect-tuesday-oct-1/
SoulCrusher says
Bob, those aren’t laws, they are statutes of a treasonous legislature that is run by the treasonous Democratic Party in this corrupt State. Statutes are not law, they are the “prima facia” evidence of law and if you break a statute that causes no harm to another, no law has been violated. Statutes are just rules and rules are meant to be broken. The Annotated Code is an instrument of treason against the US and Maryland Constitutions. The Code is SO unconstitutional that it can only be referred to as the Democratic Party’s system of legalized treason against the United States. Every member of that legislature is a traitor as they have all conspired against us and have made law they have no authority to make. I don’t give a damn about those rules and regulations and every government employee can go to hell. I claim no kinship to those scumbag traitors and believe our country would be better off without them.
Bob says
Statues ARE laws.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/statute
Bob says
Sorry for my spelling error in previous post. I meant ‘statutes’ ARE laws.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, you are clueless. Since I got censored by the Dagger for putting the REAL law of the land this will have to do. “The common law is the real law, the Supreme Law of the land, the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are “not the law”. – Self v. Rhay, 61 Wn (2d) 261. That says it all…… Statutes are the Code, Rules and Regulations of government employees and in order for a crime to have occurred there must be someone who suffered harm. The State and it’s agents are NOT “someone” and they can NOT be the victim. The enforcement of Codes, Rules and Regulations on the public in a manner where no victim exists is an act of fraud. However, I say it’s treason.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I may be ‘clueless’, but in this case I’m right. The Cambridge Dictionary defines STATUTE as a LAW that has been formally approved and written down. Say what you will, but clearly STATUTES are LAWS.
SoulCrusher says
No Bob, you’re wrong. Statutes are NOT law. Statutes are rules and regulations of government employees. If a citizen breaks a rule that causes no harm, no crime has occurred. However, if breaking a rule causes harm to another then a crime has occurred. Government employees are required to follow the rules and regulations all the time in their official capacity as we hold them to a higher standard, but when they are not acting in an official capacity they are private citizens but took an oath to obey such law all the time. WE THE PEOPLE are held to account to the “Common Law”, Them the government are held to account to Codes, Rules and Regulations. The problem is that government employees have reversed the roles of the rule of law and want the public to be held accountable to what they are held accountable and are illegally persecuting private citizens across this entire country in a nationwide racketeering ring involving the government, it’s agents and BAR Association members who are defrauding the public in what I call mass fraud, war and treason against those whom pay their salaries. The Bar Association members are assisting the government and get paid the most by the public, yet don’t defend us and actually help the government defraud us. Bob, I already gave you examples of Supreme Court decisions that are stating exactly what I am saying, yet you want to look at a dictionary and deny the law of the land because you are brainwashed. You are not a government employee unless you are in fact a government employee and statutes are NOT law. Statutes are the “prima facia” evidence of law, which means “on the surface” they appear to be law, but are not when dealing with common law. Stop lying to the public and telling them they are to account to the treasonous legislature in Annapolis because those scumbag traitors in Annapolis and DC have no authority to make law for WE THE PEOPLE and the courts must get your consent to convict you by contract. That’s why they force you to have an attorney because when you use an attorney you are considered a “ward” of the court. They make sure they convict you even though the conviction is illegal. Every Judge, Lawyer, Police Officer and Prosecutor is a traitor for warring against the Constitution. Every politician is a traitor as well when they make the unconstitutional law. That’s why the pigs call us “sheep”, because we are being led to their slaughter. They will force you into a conviction, just like they did me and they will threaten you with harm and murder, just like they did me. They will use your lawyer to threaten you with the murder that way they have plausible deniability in regards to coercion, but the truth is the Judges, Prosecutors and your very own Lawyer will break every established law and commit treason against you, just like they did me. I am not a criminal, but every member of our government is a criminal and a traitor. It is my opinion that every government employee involved in the criminal justice system, as well as every criminal defense lawyer in this country, should be executed for mass fraud and treason against us.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, you’re just being obstinate. Dictionaries (not the Constitution) are the accepted reference book that provide the MEANING of a word. You’re making much, much too much, of this. You have become so fixated on the trees that you no longer see the forest. It’s no big deal. You just have to step back, admit you’re wrong, let it go and move forward.
SoulCrusher says
No Bob. You have been brainwashed. Dictionaries are not SCOTUS decisions an you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, there you go again. It’s not about SCOTUS. When I posted the link to the new Maryland LAWS, the FIRST sentence of your FIRST reply was the following:
“Bob, those aren’t laws, they are statutes of a treasonous legislature that is run by the treasonous Democratic Party in this corrupt State.”
Apparently, you believe statutes are not laws; However, Dictionaries CLEARLY define statutes as LAWS. The dictionaries are right. SoulCrusher is wrong
SoulCrusher says
No Bob, SCOTUS says the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are “not the law”. That’s the bottom line. Statutes are constrained by the Constitution and if a statute does NOT conform with the Constitution, it is nothing. Statutes are not law, they are the “prima facia” evidence of law and mean absolutely nothing if there is no common law violation. Anyone who enforces statute in a situation where there is no victim is a terrorist and a traitor. The “Common Law” is all WE THE PEOPLE are held accountable to and anyone who thinks differently is either brainwashed, ignorant or a traitor. I don’t care what your dictionary says and I don’t care what you say either.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, You are becoming obsessive over this. An important step for you is acceptance of FACTS. Even though you don’t care what I say, I care about YOU. Have a good day!
SoulCrusher says
I will accept the fact that probably half of those statutes are unconstitutional as hell. Statutes aren’t law if they don’t conform to the Federal and State Constitutions. ALL Criminal statutes must have CORPUS DELICTI involved in the incident or else there is simply no crime. Statutes aren’t law. They are codified crap by a group of treasonous politicians whom are trying to brainwash and subjugate the public. You do what you want, but I don’t care about anything you have or my government has to say. It’s not my government, it’s YOUR government. My government is a Constitutional Republic and not a treasonous democracy made up of verified traitors against the United States.
Bob says
For your own well-being, you SHOULD start caring.
SoulCrusher says
I don’t think so. I have nothing to preserve and nothing the government can take. The government has nothing I want. I want nothing to do with anyone involved in it. They are all traitors and terrorists against their own people. The same people that pay their salaries. I’m done with them. You can have them….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, Have a good evening. Maker sure you watch my Yankees.
SoulCrusher says
Well, your Yankees moved on. Congratulations. However, you’re still outta your mind…
PO PO says
What about Felony Theft Laws? Is there mandatory minimums being established for those who decide to rip off others like in this case: C12CR18000209? Types like this need to be harshly dealt with.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, just shut up. You have no idea what you’re talking about….
“The common law is the real law, the Supreme Law of the land, the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are “not the law”, [Self V. Rhay, 61 Wn (2d) 261
“For a crime to exist, there must be an injured party (Corpus Delicti) There can be no sanction or penalty imposed on one because of this Constitutional right.” Sherer v. Cullen 481 F. 945
Supreme courts ruled “Without Corpus delicti there can be no crime”“In every prosecution for crime it is necessary to establish the “corpus delecti”, i.e., the body or elements of the crime.” People v. Lopez, 62 Ca.Rptr. 47, 254 C.A.2d 185
“As a general principal, standing to invoke the judicial process requires an actual justiciable controversy as to which the complainant has a real interest in the ultimate adjudication because he or she has either suffered or is about to suffer an injury. ” People v.CORPUS DELICTI
“[p]owers not granted (to any government) are prohibited.” United States v. Butler, 297 U.S 1, 68 (1936)
“In so far as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, (constitution) it is superseded thereby.” (16 Am Jur 2d 177, Late Am Jur 2d. 256)
“The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose, since its unconstitutionality dates from the time of its enactment… In legal contemplation, it is as inoperative as if it had never been passed… Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no right, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it… A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing law. Indeed insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, (the Constitution JTM) it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Bonnett v. Vallier, 116 N.W. 885, 136 Wis. 193 (1908); NORTON v. SHELBY COUNTY, 118 U.S. 425 (1886). See also Bonnett v Vallier, 136 Wis 193, 200; 116 NW 885, 887 (1908); State ex rel Ballard v Goodland, 159 Wis 393, 395; 150 NW 488, 489 (1915); State ex rel Kleist v Donald, 164 Wis 545, 552-553; 160 NW 1067, 1070 (1917); State ex rel Martin v Zimmerman, 233 Wis 16, 21; 288 NW 454, 457 (1939); State ex rel Commissioners of Public Lands v Anderson, 56 Wis 2d 666, 672; 203 NW2d 84, 87 (1973); and Butzlaffer v Van Der Geest & Sons, Inc, Wis, 115 Wis 2d 539; 340 NW2d 742, 744-745 (1983).
Bob says
SoulCrusher, your obfuscation doesn’t help.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, just shut up. I gave you all the Supreme Court decisions above that verify everything I am saying. You on the other hand, give me a definition from a dictionary and expect me and everyone else to believe that decision. WE THE PEOPLE are held accountable to the common law and NOT Codes, Rules and Regulations. Read the Constitution and the Maryland Constitution and realize both of them say the same thing about the common law. The people have been reeducated into thinking we are held accountable to these rules and regulations, but it is al mass fraud and treason against the US Constitution and the Maryland Constitution. Bob, your “obfuscation” is the problem and your Democratic Party has brainwashed into thinking the way you do.
Bob says
Come on, SoulCrusher just let it go. You need to open you mind and let some fresh air get in there. You’ll feel so much better.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, I’ve had 10 years of fresh air because it has been 10 years since I was illegally convicted of a crime that never happened. In order for a crime to occur, there must be Corpus Delicti and since none was involved in my incident there was no crime. Period. End of discussion. I don’t let nothing go and I don’t forgive or forget illegal actions by a treasonous State and its employees. That’s the bottom line. You can let the Harford County traitors walk all over you if you want, but that’s not on my agenda.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, so be it.
Mike Callahan says
Will Donald Trump next investigate Elizabeth Warren for alleged Ukraine shenanigans now that she out polls Biden?
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-sees-new-polls-and-orders-ukraine-to-investigate-elizabeth-warren?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_imagenewsletter_Borowitz_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Borowitz_100719&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6749d24c17c104800ecdb&cndid=33554707&esrc=footer-unit&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Borowitz
Mike Callahan says
Trump calls impeachment a “kangaroo court” and refuses to cooperate with being impeached.
Its called obstruction of justice (stonewalling) , another impeachable crime!
Ask Nixon!
Truth Be Told says
All you have to do is look at Harford County and they are a prime example of what a Kangaroo Court looks like. SAO that is incompetent with Judges that aren’t much better. Many of whom came from the SAO.
Bob says
“Trump defends Syria move: The Kurds ‘didn’t help us’ in Normandy”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465098-trump-defends-syria-move-the-kurds-didnt-help-us-in-normandy
Wow! Looks like the President has lost it again.
Bob says
Regarding the below March 2019 WAPO article — The Washington Post received a statement from Harford County Sheriff Jeffrey R. Gahler which said a complaint has been assigned to the sheriff’s department’s Office of Professional Standards for a “complete and thorough investigation.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/28/lawyering-while-black-maryland-deputy-accused-attorney-being-suspect-complaint-says/
Does anyone know if this investigation has been completed and, if so, are the results available to the public?
Mike Callahan says
The Harford County Sherriffs Office investigated itself.
They Found that the officer charged with racial profiling did nothing wrong
Instead of apologizing for their racial profiling the HCSO requested the lawyer apologize for complaining about racial profiling
No independent investigation was done.
The accused criminal police force exonerated itself.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/harford/aegis/ph-ag-lawyering-while-black-finding-0410-story.html
Bob says
Mike, thank you so much for the information. Have a great day!
Fact Checker says
Bob, Not that it matters to Mike since it doesn’t fit his victim mentality, here is a link to the press conference. https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/lawyering-while-black-harford-sheriffs-office-calls-accusation-unfounded
Mike Callahan says
In 2016 in Churchville Jeff Gahler called the “jogging while black” incident an “unfortunate occurrence”
Racial profiling is not an “unfortunate occurrence”.
It is a crime.
In this case the Harford cops detained and felony handcuffed a 61 year old black Dr. Walter Egerton who was jogging before going to work.
Dr. Egerton did in no way fit the description of the two young robbery suspects .
The only thing he had in common with the suspects was “race”.
It was a case of racial profiling.
It was a crime
Gahler told the Aegis at the time that his deputies “acted in accordance with the law and policy”.
It is clear that Harford police policy is racially biased.
And it is clear that Sheriff Gahler thinks its his job to cover up his racially biased police policy.
.https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/harford/aegis/ph-ag-egerton-detained-0406-20160415-story.html
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Fact Checker says
0 for 2 race baiting Mike. It was not the sheriffs department that stopped Mr. Egerton. They were backup for another police department. You fake news is better aimed there but of course you don’t much care about being wrong, just spreading the hate.
Mike Callahan says
Fact Checker cant read’:
The Aegis said : “The sheriff who confirmed he met with Egerton, said that “after a thorough review, it has been determined deputies acted in accordance with the law and policy” according to a statement provided by Curtis Kahler, spokesperson for the Sheriffs Office.”
Gahler also at the time called Egertons experience just an “unfortunate occurence” in the midst of a robbery manhunt.
There is no race baiting. There is no fake news.
You must be the propaganda minister for Gahler’s racial biased policies.
It wasnt just an “unfortunate occurence”.
Racial pofiling is a crime
. Egertom in no way fit the description of the suspects.
.The only common factor the suspects had with Egeton was race.
. Thats by definition “racial profiling”..
Racial profiling by the Harford police spreads hate.
Questioning egregious racial profiling is an attempt to stop racially biased police policy..
Gahler police policy is 2 for 2 racially biased!
SoulCrusher says
Well, what did you expect? When the government is allowed to investigate itself for wrong doing, you will see results just like this. Government employees will defend the actions of other government employees because they are ALL traitors and are the enemies of WE THE PEOPLE, whom they are NOT.
Truth Be Told says
Exactly…..no independent accountability at any level in Harford County. The judges, cops, and SAO are corrupt, inept, and racist . These PHO investigation don’t get after the problem
? says
No independent accountability? Hell they flaunt it. Who just “donated” 3 Harley Davidson motorcycles to the HCSO? What do you think someone gets for such a “donation”?
SoulCrusher says
I would have to say the individual or business who donated the Harley Davidson motorcycles to the HCSO gets a tax deduction. That’s all nothing else. They may even get a “good feeling” for donating and probably even got a thank you for the donation. When you make a donation, you do so without any thoughts of what you may get in return or else it is a gift with a “quid pro quo” involved in the gift giving…. State Employees are forbidden from receiving gifts for a “quid pro quo” as that is called “bribery” of a State Employee.
? says
Interesting, so if there is nothing the donor is looking for why not give the donation anonymously?
Truth Be Told says
I had not heard about the Harley donations to HCSO. What would a County level Sheriffs Department need with motorcycles? They don’t have a motorcycle cops. They are getting nothing for the donation but a Tax write off? Right….Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Gahler himself doesn’t t have one of these parked in his garage.
? says
You would need to go look at the HCSO facebook post from 9-23. There are lots of nice pictures of the bikes. Whats a harley like that go for? anyone?
SoulCrusher says
It’s kinda hard to give a motorcycle away anonymously. There is a title involved you know. Like I said, if there is a gift with an expectation of a favor it is called bribery of a public official. If no service or favor is expected then it can be a donation. A lot of people who have too much money do stupid shit like that.
reality check says
HCSO is not a charitable organization. corporations can’t just willie nillie give stuff away to anyone or anything and take a deduction.
SoulCrusher says
@ reality check – Really? I think you need to get your head examined….https://www.thebalancesmb.com/can-my-business-deduct-charitable-contributions-397602
SoulCrusher says
@ reality check – Furthermore, you can give donations to any charitable organization or ANY GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION such as your local police department.
https://www.sapling.com/8271793/donation-police-department-taxdeductible
SoulCrusher says
@ reality check – The real question is why would you give the police anything? They are already funded by taxpayer money as thy wage war against the taxpayers every damn day. Why would you give money to a government that has staged an illegal and unconstitutional war against the American people on behalf of the dumbocrat party? There is no Constitutional authority in regards to social reform and every statute made by the Democrat Party to reform us in our behaviors or in a social scheme is completely unconstitutional. That which is unconstitutional is illegal as it violates the Supreme Law of the Land. Get it thru your thick skull fuktard. The Democratic Party is illegal, unconstitutional and an act of war against the US Constitution, the Maryland Constitution and WE THE PEOPLE whom are the United States.
reality check says
SC thanks a lot for looking that up Clearly you spent way more time than I was willing to invest in something so trivial. LOL sucker.
SoulCrusher says
Well, I do have more time than most, but these were simple Google searches that took about 5 minutes total. I just wish others, such as yourself, would look things up before you opened your clap trap. Then you wouldn’t look like the ignorant fuktard that you clearly are….
Bob says
In 2016 Sheriff Gahler signed on to an ICE program (287g Agreement) where the Sheriff’s department would screen county detention center detainees to determine their immigration status and to assist ICE in their deportation, if they were determined to be deportable.
As I read this 2016 agreement it states that it will remain in effect until June 30, 2019. Has a new agreement been signed? Is there any state/county over site of such agreements? If not, there should be.
Bob says
“Baltimore sees one of its most violent weekends in recent memory with 17 shot, leaving residents beleaguered”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-shootings-20191014-20191014-xjcb277nyzajljy5rkgrdc5r44-story.html
We cannot allow this to become the new norm. The Mayor and the Governor should consider declaring a “state of emergency’ in Baltimore City. Something needs to be done and done quickly.
Sorry if the truth hurts says
This is the “new norm” which exists because our liberal society allows it to exist. Thanks to political correctness, the ACLU, and failure to hold certain groups responsible for their blatant repeated bad behavior. The police know many of the bad players but are reluctant to confront them if they are people of color in fear of being labeled as racist. In Baltimore and many other cities the data is clear. In the majority of the homicides the victims and the assailants are black. An entirely too large segment of the black community embraces the gangster and drug subculture. That gangster violent mentality is reflected daily in the billion dollar music business industry. You have black athletes participating in “stop snitching “ videos. These any many other factors poison the minds of young black youths. Meanwhile people are dying. So many of the young people of Baltimore and other cities have evolved into having one solution to conflict just “pull the trigger”. The black community needs to step up to the plate and address these issues head on and hold those responsible accountable and stop allowing their claims of racial injustice to be their shield. The fraternity supporting the acknowledgement of right and wrong needs to be stronger than the fraternity of color. Personally I am getting very tired of seeing people, particularly young children die and have city leaders acting as if they have no solutions when they clearly know who is responsible and why. Back to that powerful fraternal thing again
Bob says
You are right The increased violence that is taking place in Baltimore is sadly the “new norm”. However, we must be careful in the amount of blame we attribute to race, ACLU, political correctness, liberal society and that “powerful fraternal thing”.
Irrespective of race, a ghetto is a violent place. The deck is stacked and outcomes are not good. The violence is not a racial thing. It’s an environmental thing.
Sorry if the truth hurts says
Blind dismissal of hard data by liberals and the black community is by far the greatest cause of racial bias and divide. It is clearly evident to anyone who actually goes out in to the real world that a disproportionate amount of the black community embrace a gangster fast money life style. The only solution to a conflict or a dispute is violence. PullIng the trigger. There are bad people of all races. The difference is the black community assisted by a liberal media attempt to avoid, explain, or just flat out ignore the issues. Meanwhile people are dying. I give you the senseless death of Taylor Hayes or the senseless shooting of that two year old child in the road rage incident. If the black community is truly concerned with these type of incidents they need to hold those of their own responsible when it applies. Yes it is an “environmental thing”. That environment contains a disproportionate amount of black people doing the wrong things. Let’s hold those responsible who are in fact culpable. Stop making excuses people are dying.
Bob says
Regrettably, at the center of the “hard data” you refer to is our country’s history of slavery. This terrible legacy, coupled with current political, economic and social policies, has created an ‘underclass’ that has been relegated to the inner-city slums. If the tables were turned and the majority of ghetto residents were white the violence would remain.
Like you, I am saddened over the death of 7-year old Taylor Hayes and the shooting of 2-year old Ka’si in the road rage incident. One thing that would really help is stricter gun control laws. There are more guns than people in America. We don’t live in the wild west anymore. We don’t need all these guns. “Pulling the trigger’ is way too easy. Less ‘triggers to pull’ would definitely be a step in the right direction toward making America safer and less violent.
Sorry if the truth hurts says
So slavery and you might as well throw in white supremacy and white nationalism is the reason that a large portion of the the black community is behaving so poorly killing and victimizing one another at an alarming rate. Thanks for explaining this to me. I was wondering why affirmative action, the creation and quick ruination of expensive once quality public housing, educational grants and incentives, and billions upon billions of dollars pumped in to a community and other social programs didn’t work. I often wondered why people afforded all of these programs and benefits for many years have failed to behave well and better assimilate in to a more orderly and safer society. Now I know. Slavery. Okay I will pass that along. It was a real learning experience. So if I run in to someone disgusted about the indiscriminate killing and who wonders why the black community doesn’t condemn the far too many black youths who embrace the gangster, drug dealing, fast money, violent mentality I will tell them slavery is responsible and it should end there. I will tell them to ignore the hip hop and rap songs that advocate violence, drug use, and disrespect to women. I stupidly thought those factors were responsible for the senseless deaths in Baltimore and other cities. Slavery, got it. My grandmother often told me ignoring a problem will never make it go away.
Bob says
What is relevant today is the LEGACY of slavery. To gain a better understanding of its consequences and connection to current day America, I urge you to check out the recent NY Times Magazine “1619 Project” It’s a great read!
SoulCrusher says
The only thing modern Americans are a slave to is the treason of the government. NO MAN has owned another MAN since 1865, moron. The government has you enslaved by illegally taxing your income, property, licenses, toll roads, etc… Since this treasonous government has denied my rights, as well as those of millions of Americans thru the myth of the COMMERCE CLAUSE, the power and authority of this government is extinct. It has been completely forfeited by their treason. I AM living proof of this fact. There is no law in the government, only treason and that is the slavery you should be talking about. It should also be noted that this treason was designed and orchestrated by the Democrat Party and the BAR Association. You can talk about all the slaves in the past, but that will never give you a right to claim anything from those terrible deeds in the past because you were not and will never be a slave, except to the treasonous government that you worship like a God.
SoulCrusher says
Oh and by the way Bob, what happened to your Yankees? Better luck next year. I’m sure you’ll do better than the Orioles….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I have to give credit to Houston. They played a great series. I was hoping for a Yankees/Nationals World Series. Oh well, maybe next year. My mantra now is GO CAPS!!
Bob says
“Driver’s Firearm Goes Off During ‘Squeegee Kid’ Struggle, Baltimore Police Say”
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/10/24/drivers-firearm-goes-off-during-incident-with-squeegee-kids-baltimore-police-say/
This “squeegee-kids” situation in Baltimore City needs to be addressed in a hurry!!
Bob says
“Sen. Lindsey Graham: Every American should be bothered by what Democrats are doing to Trump”
https://www.foxnews.com/media/sen-lindsey-graham-every-american-should-be-bothered-by-what-democrats-are-doing-to-trump
What Lindsey fails to understand is that it’s not the democrats doing something to Trump. It’s Trump self-destructing more and more with each passing day.
Bob says
“Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html
I’m sure this will drive our President absolutely bonkers. I guess he will declare a national emergency, call out the National Guard and close all hardware stores.
That’s what happens when you build walls – someone always finds a way to poke a hole in them.
Bob says
“The Electoral College could save Trump in 2020”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/4/20947603/trump-battleground-states-polling-2020-biden-sanders-warren
I sure hope not. Our country couldn’t take another 4-years of Trump.
Not likely says
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
Bob says
“Can American democracy survive a second Trump term?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/11/can-american-democracy-survive-second-trump-term/
I agree with the writer of the above article, “That this is a very real possibility causes me to fear for our country more than at any point in my lifetime.”
The Central Scrutinizer says
“if you want a happy citizenry, kill all the dissenters”. Does Bob agree? Bob Touts an article by a newspaper owned by a commie. Bezos pays his employees so little so that they qualify for financial aid…ergo communism….cept he pockets the profits of his full priced enterprise…what a guy. This is a contradiction. Bezos….read the fine print of that newspaper you own ….”DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS”!
Bob says
What’s your favorite newspaper?
Bob says
Roger Stone found guilty on all counts—lying to Congress, witness tampering and obstructing a Congressional committee proceeding.
Yet another, Trump lackey goes down. Maybe, we should build a special prison on the grounds of Mar-a-lago in Florida to handle all the crooks associated with the Trump Presidency.
Harford Republican says
And Stone and Manafort both guilty of lying to Mueller. Clearly a concerted effort to obstruct justice. If they told the truth trumps world would implode..
SoulCrusher says
First of all. screw Congress. I find it rather ironic that someone get’s in trouble for lying to the largest group of liars in our Country. ALL Politicians are liars and are supposed to be held accountable to WE THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE are not beholden to them. Congress does not make rules and regulations for the public, nor does the public have to obey any Congressional legislation unless it is added to the Constitution via a Constitutional Amendment. The enforcement of Codes, Rules and Regulations on private persons is unconstitutional as there is no Constitutional Authority to do such a thing. That which is unconstitutional is illegal as the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Any over reach is treason. Roger Stone is not a government employee and he is not beholden to the codified crap of the US Code. The US Code is the law of government employees. The public is only beholden to Common Law. Roger Stone needs to tell that Court to “get that fraud and treason out of my face”. Let me be very clear. Article 1 Section 8 does not give Congress any authority to regulate the behavior of the people. End of discussion. Would someone please tell me where and when Congress got authorization from the people to regulate their behaviors. It just never happened. What you have is a completely treasonous government conning the public that pays their damn salaries into believing they are the law. They are not the law. They are your enemy and it is about time that they get regulated by the people.
LOL says
If you don’t like congress vote them out. Oh wait…. that’s right you are a convicted felon just like Stone and have no voting rights. HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
SoulCrusher says
Ok, you just showed how much of an idiot you are. There is no such thing as a felony conviction from any statute that has been passed by the treasonous Maryland Legislature since 1867. It is forbidden to be that way due to Article 18 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights and ALL convictions of such are an act of fraud, war and treason against the public. Also, in the great fake hate STATE OF MARYLAND, anyone convicted of a felony is granted ALL voting privileges back after their sentence is completed. Only an ignorant fool such as yourself makes totally ignorant statements like the one you just made and everyone that reads it is laughing at YOU out loud. I don’t vote because I am not registered and I give NO CONSENT to the treasonous Federal or State Legislative faculties. They are just a group of traitors, so why would I consent to those traitors? You on the other hand are nothing but an uneducated fool and your mental outlook comes from generations of inbred breeding practices of your family. Don’t be like this guy. Don’t be an uneducated imbred fool who has sex with his sister, like LOL.
LOL says
Yea I’m the idiot….You are the one getting ass raped by your boyfriend bubba. do you still need to wear a diaper from the leakage issue?.
SoulCrusher says
Yeah, you are an idiot. I’m not in jail and nobody at the HCDC or the DOC ever even tried to rape me. They would try to rape you because you’re a little bitch and would probably love it. People like you that say crap like that dream of ass raping and anal leakage because that’s what you want. You wish it was happening to you, so you ask other people if it’s happened to them. C’mon man, we ALL know you love the cock….
Bob says
The article, “The Enemy Within” from ‘The Atlantic Magazine’ is a good one. It got me thinking about just how divided and cynical our county has become:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/james-mattis-the-enemy-within/600781/
I try to take the high ground and believe that the President’s supporters are honorable and are not motivated purely by self-interest, but it is difficult for me.
I need to be careful that my feelings toward Trump do not poison my attitude toward those that support him for whatever reason.
My concern is that we are becoming a nation of negative cynics, instead of positive idealists and that the “bonds of affection” that unite us are being overridden by a pervasive sense of cynicism that divides us.
Bob says
“President Trump Live on Fox and Friends”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNqKhRcpktU
After listening to this interview today I was betwixt and between. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. If you have a strong stomach check it out. Trump is a complete and utter joke. It blows my mind that our country elected this clown to be our President.
Bob says
“Trump makes at least 18 false claims in ranting Fox & Friends interview”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/fact-check-trump-fox-and-friends-november/index.html
Now, I understand why ‘The Donald’ was so hateful and vengeful toward Ambassador Yovanovitch. Apparently, he believes she wouldn’t ‘hang his picture’ in the in our embassy in Kiev. Looks like his ego is so fragile, that he is willing to grab onto and push any and all cock & bull stories out there. Our President is in dire need of therapy.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Seek Mental Health Care…..and… Please Use Contraception. BREAK THE CYCLE!
The Central Scrutinizer says
The Close For Shiff’s Sham Told All As Shiff Fessed Up, Stating He Was Unable To accept Mueller’s Findings. Call The Guys With The Nets!
Bob says
“Giuliani associate willing to inform Congress of meeting between Nunes and former Ukrainian official: report”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/471768-giuliani-associate-willing-to-inform-congress-of-meeting-between-nunes-and
Nunes is a real piece of work. This is the same guy who, when he was head of the Intelligence Committee in 2017, went on a ‘late night run’ to suck up the President.
If this story turns out to be true it’s time for the citizens of his Congressional District in California to send this Trump lick-spittle back to milking the cows.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Vindman testified he was insubordinate and broke chain of command. It’s time he became MR Vindman.
Bob says
Lt. Colonel Vindman was not insubordinate nor did he break the chain of command. He had the courage to properly raise legitimate concerns over Trump’s Ukraine telephone call. Perhaps he should be promoted to full Colonel.
The real Just for says
Bob is an interesting individual. As you read his posts you would think he was a psychiatrist, psychologist, political scientist, legal scholar, judge, jury, military authority, and Dr. Phil all rolled in to one. I am going to be particularly interested in some of his all omniscient editorialization of some of the pending upcoming investigative releases and the application of constitutionally guaranteed fair due process and subsequent acquittal of the President in the Senate if impeachment issue comes to fruition. I am an Independent moderate but it is clear to see that people the likes of Bob are so full of contempt for President Trump that the bias spews continuously. President Trump could solve world hunger and Bob and his liberal friends would criticize him for childhood obesity.
Bob says
Hello ‘The real just for’,
I was beginning to worry about you, as I had not seen a post from you in a while. I always enjoy exchanging views with an “independent moderate” such as yourself. Your comments invariably bring a smile to my face. Please keep them coming. Welcome back!
Bob says
My feelings about the President are about fear & anger, not contempt. My worry is that he has managed to tap into and feed off of some of of our worst instincts as a people and a country. He doesn’t unite and bring us together— he divides and separates us. The reason I feel so negatively about the President is because he SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME. Like I have before, he presents a “clear and present danger” for our country. We can and must do better!
SoulCrusherq says
Yet you have no feelings of fear and anger about the treasonous Democratic Party that you worship. Now that’s scary. The Democratic Party has thrived off of division, fear and hatred since it’s beginnings. You’ve apparently forgotten history and conform to the fictional narrative of the Democrats being the Party of reason and justice. Last time I checked the Democrats were the Party of slavery, the KKK, John Wilkes Boothe and ANTIFA. The only “clear and present danger” to our country is the Democrat Party, especially those whom reside in the House of Treason also known as the House of Representatives. The House is supposed to represent us. Instead they try to enslave us. Bob, you have no clue what you’re talking about and those whom divide us are the Democrats as they use every trick outlined in “Mein Kampf” to steer the American public into the social reform idealism of the UN, the HOLY SEE and the Nation of Palestine, all on behalf of that onw world government I call the “New World Odor”. I don’t recognize the UN as a government, nor am I a Catholic or a Muslim. Your Code of Rules and Regulations is being illegally enforced on the public and now the public wants to enforce the Constitution on the Democrats. That’s just the way it is and to say different is to be a traitor…..
Bob says
“3 Maryland men exonerated after 36 years in prison”
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sns-bc-us–prisoners-exonerated-baltimore-20191125-story.html
These gentlemen were convicted in a 1984 trial even though witnesses, who testified against them, could not identify them in photo lineups. Also, evidence of another assailant was ignored by the prosecutor and their trial records were sealed by a judge for years and not released until recently.
I sure hope these guys receive substantial financial compensation for wrongful convictions.
Bob says
“Trump signs animal cruelty act into law”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/donald-trump-animal-cruelty-act-signed-trnd/index.html
Now, if he would just resign and spare all of America the cruelty of his Presidency.
Bob says
“Trump says he would ‘love to’ have officials testify but is ‘fighting for future presidents”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/472084-trump-says-he-would-love-to-have-officials-testify-but-is-fighting
Happy Thanksgiving, Mr. President. Let’s be honest and speak the truth — The only thing you care about is YOURSELF. You don’t have the inclination, guts and/or the intellectual wherewithal to testify. Why don’t you just give us a break, play some golf in Mar-a-Lago and try not to cheat on your score?
Bob says
“Rudy Giuliani’s reputation will never recover from the impeachment hearings”
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/471985-rudy-giulianis-reputation-will-never-recover-from-the-impeachment
Looks like the President is beginning to distance himself Giuliani. Pretty soon it will be ‘Rudy, who?’ Trump will “sell you down the river” in a minute.
The real Just for says
Did anyone happen to see how the fine youth of Baltimore treated the First Lady of our country. It is no wonder to me that Baltimore is the way it is. A lawless haven for thugs, gangsters, drug traffickers, and murderers. The woman had the courage to address the students of Baltimore about the opioid and drug problem. THEIR PROBLEM! How did they act ? Like a bunch of liberal bitches. I don’t claim to be the toughest guy in the world but I can tell you one thing. In my life if I had a problem with a man I would address it with him. Only a little bitch would attack a man’s wife or family. The sad thing is the incident received little if any coverage by the liberal media. The liberals and Democrats have reached a new low. If the 2020 election does go there way the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves
The real Just for says
*doesn’t go there way
The realJust for says
*their
LOL says
Kids were pissed they thought she was gonna show them her tits.
Again.
Truth Be Told says
Cant blame them….she is HOT!!
Bob says
The below video shows a young boy who collapsed and died on the floor of his holding cell while in the custody of the Border Patrol in May 2019.
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-cell-where-a-sick-16-year-old-boy-died-in-border-patrol-care
What a terrible waste of a young life! What a tragedy!
The real Just for says
Hey Bob. You and your Democratic friends have been pretty quiet about the way the fine youth of Baltimore treated the First Lady. You know only a little bitch would attack a man’s wife and family. The Democrats have now reached a new low. Then you have Professor Karlan taking the despicable cheap shot at the President’s minor child. What did that comment have to with the impeachment issue from an evidential point of view. I can tell you. NONE!!! You stated some time ago in a prior post that you were a grandparent. How would you feel if a group of people who feel they have a problem with you personally make verbal attacks at your grandchildren? There should be no excuses. No justification. Nothing! Answer this question honestly please. How do you think the liberal media would have responded to the Republicans taking similar cheap shots at Michelle Obama or her children? You and I both know how it would have played out. You guys are your own worst enemy. Every day you guys push President Trump closer to re-election.
Bob says
I believe the booing of the First Lady was uncalled-for. Also, it is very regrettable that Professor Karlan invoked the name of the President’s young son during her testimony. However, she did have the good sense to apologize. Making reference to the President’s youngest child is unacceptable.
In regards to Trump himself, he doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of getting reelected. Come Jan 2021 he will be out of office and our national healing can begin.
Truth Be Told says
Bob you are kidding yourself.
Unless and until the Democrats present a candidate worth voting for Trump is likely a shoe in IMHO.
Bob says
Holiday Greetings The real just for,
Do you think the President’s recent tweet about 16-year Greta Thunberg, Time Person of the Year, was appropriate? I believe it was a “despicable cheap shot”? Only a very petty, highly insecure, bully would find it necessary to mock this child. Our President has “now reached a new low”
Hank says
Maybe, but she is the one who decided to thrust herself into the international spotlight so I don’t really feel any sympathy for her. When you decide to an international platform and scold a room full of adults and stare down someone like Trump the usual “oh she’s just a kid” claims go out the window and she opens herself up to be attacked.
It’s not like Trump is someone that would hold back because of someone’s age.
Bob says
Hank, Greta Thunberg has Asperger’s, a form of autism. Lack of social awareness and “gazing too intently” are symptoms of the disease. This might account for the “stare down” and “scolding”.
Concerning Trump, he has no decency. He is without a doubt an abomination, the bottom of bucket, the absolute worst of the worst.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Are Greta’s parents child abusers capitalizing on her mental illness?
The real Just for says
Well Bob I realize that you consider yourself a fairly knowledgeable guy. There is an interesting situation in the works. The Democrats are pushing hard for articles of impeachment which is in some ways similar to an indictment. They are basically controlling the tempo. The Republicans are alleging that there have been numerous violations of due process. I feel that there is a good chance that the impeachment will take place. Newt Gingrich once said, and it is very true, that “you can impeach a ham sandwich “ if you want but try to get a conviction. If the issue reaches the Senate there will be a hearing or a trial. In this scenario witnesses and accusers could be compelled to testify and the constitutionally guaranteed rules of due process will be allowed at that time. The President will be found not guilty and the matter is over. If you are a true American you would respect the principle that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Case closed. Then you have Mr. Barr’s requested investigations in to sleazy activities. A lot of dirty politics are going to be possibly uncovered. It will only take one weak link Bobby and you are going to see a lot of your liberal friends grabbing for the last chair as the music stops. Americans are tired of the BS and the hate Trump at all cost mentality. People are going to look at the economy and the stack market. Personally my stock portfolio has tripled since the man came in to office. I think he is going to be elected to a second term. I tell you what, if you are so confident that President Trump doesn’t have “ a snowball’s chance in hell “ of being re-elected why don’t you make this promise to all of us. If the President wins re-election you will promise to move to Canada. You know like the rest of the hypocrites: Bryan Cranston, Samuel L Jackson, Barbara Streisand, Cher, Al Sharpton, Whoopi Goldberg and any other liberal POS. Lol
Bob says
Hey, talk about a coincidence. You won’t believe this, but recently my wife and I had a semi-serious discussion about ‘moving to Canada’ should the ‘unspeakable’ occur in Nov 2020. BTW, I actually spent a year stationed at a radar site, on top of a mountain in Goose Bay Labrador Canada.
I told my wife today should the ‘unthinkable’ happen not to worry because this rich guy on the Dagger is so desperate to rid the country of ‘liberals’ he would probably cover our moving expenses.
Truth Be Told says
Your all talk….you will still be here just like the rest who threatened to leave.
Bob says
You’re right. Come Jan 2021, I’ll still be here and the Trump nightmare be history.
Truth Be Told says
Good luck with that….because the circus the Dems are running in DC is going to back fire on them.
The real Just for says
I am confused Bob. One minute you post that President Trump doesn’t have a “snowball’s chance in hell” of getting re-elected but you and your wife discuss a contingency plan. Interesting and bordering on hypocritical. Very much indicative of a true liberal lol.
Bob says
I’m sorry I confused you. The truth of the matter is ‘I’ never doubted that Trump will be a one-term President. My wife, however, thinks there is a possibility, albeit remote, that our country has completely lost its mind and might reelect Trump.
The real Just for says
I realize it is getting late. Why don’t you get some rest. You seem to be getting a little frazzled and are starting to back peddle. Maybe we can talk some other time. Good night sir.
Bob says
Below is a link I thought you might find interesting
“Trump: Fox News ‘panders’ to Democrats by having on liberal guests”
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/473591-trump-claims-fox-news-panders-to-democrats-by-having-liberal-guests
Good night. Sleep tight. Don’t let the bedbugs bite.”
Bob says
“Watchdog report finds FBI not motivated by political bias in Trump probe”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473688-watchdog-report-finds-fbi-not-motivated-by-political-bias-in-trump
Hey Real, Is the above report one of “Mr. Barr’s investigations in to sleazy activities” that you referred to yesterday?
The real just for says
Actually no. You and I both know the Durham investigations are what I was speaking of silly man. The content of the non-criminal IG inquiry has been leaked out and out there for a while. Stay tuned silly man. The D.C. musical chairs game is about yo begin. Lol
Bob says