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Harford County Democratic Central Committee Opposes “Further Militarizing the Police”

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From the Harford County Democratic Central Committee:

The Harford County Democratic Central Committee’s statement on the approval of $400,000 for an additional armored police vehicle:

The Harford County Democratic Central Committee is calling on our local leaders to spend county resources more effectively. Instead of further militarizing the police with additional armored vehicles, the $400,000 should be spent towards public and mental health, education, housing relief or economic development in Harford County. The continuing costs of maintaining and repairing the armored vehicle are more resources that should be going towards Harford County residents. The armored vehicle that the Harford County Sheriff’s Office currently has is more than capable of keeping our officers safe. Harford County does not need another armored vehicle when there are more pressing needs in our community. The HCDCC will continue working for the common good by advocating for county resources being spent more effectively towards Harford County residents.

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  1. Militarizing the Police? A community is worried about giving the police the tools to do their job and keep everyone safe? Oh yeah, I forgot…you want social workers to solve societal problems at the emergency calls for police. Once the police get the situation under control, the social workers can interview inside the armored vehicle so that they are not in danger. The Hartford County Democratic Central Committee are so far out of their league.

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    • I bet you are the same Harford County cop who pulled me off my porch without a search warrant, without notice, without provocation or any intelligent interpretation of what was happening other then…police intuition. You bastards attacked me on my porch dragged me into the street, handcuffed me, strip searched me and when you realized I only had the first name if the person you were looking for….and your fucking guess was wrong?
      ..you let me go….after duplicating my arm and just about giving this 67 year old man a heart attack….And we are supposed to give you more tools to beat kill and destroy…. You must be the same ” keeping it under control” bastard they set that day…is your name Miller the 3rd?

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      • Dissenter I do not know a cop named Miller. I am sorry to read about your experience with the police. I have a story, too.
        After finishing a shift in a Baltimore City hospital, I drove home to the Eastern Shore. At approximately 0230, I was pulled over by a Black Cambridge Police Department Officer while driving on Rt 50. When he approached my car he instructed me to get out of my car stating, “We want to keep the Eastern Shore free of drugs.” I was confused and didn’t know what to do so I asked him if I should turn off my car? He screamed at me to get out of my car. I stood on the curb as he looked inside my car while my car was still running. I will admit that a lot of things ran through my mind about the stop. I may never have answers about the stop, but it did not affect my mind and heart regarding the good intentions of the police.

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        • For some reason it’s very hard to comprehend how this story relates at all to the gentleman you are replying too. Harford County police departments have long been known for abusing their power and beating people handcuffed on the ground with 300lb cop’s sitting on their backs while 3 to 5 other officer’s kick and hit the person. There’s video after video of these types of attacks happening from the 80’s & 90’s when they original camcorders were available to the public. They used to enjoy doing this in front of crowds of people, at parades, whenever they could show their force to make sure it was.seen by many as fear tactics. Thankfully phones that record many of these assaults are now revealing what has long been kept hidden or considered probable cause for any excuse to call it resisting, if just because someone asked simple questions of why they were being stopped. It’s now coming out how many bad cops and detectives there really is among the men & women sworn to protect and work for the public. I’ve Always been a devout supporter of the men & women in blue until witnessing recently how they have and do go out of their way to get warrants when they don’t have the evidence needed to prove someone committed a crime or for conviction, yet they will do what is necessary to obtain that warrant, even when video shows it didn’t happen, the SA will still give it to them so they can press enough charges to bring in money for the good ole boy & girl system. Amazes me how they don’t want the citizen’s to react or use their feelings on their actions or performance without concrete evidence but have not one issue with them deciding “maybe, probably, I think they did it, I feel they did it”, even though the proof is absent, but hey, let them spend money to prove they’re innocent. It’s know longer innocent until proven guilty, everyone is now guilty til proven innocent from LE. Now they are being treated the same way & don’t understand why.

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          • Thanks for writing the Dead Sea Scrolls on an online forum. I only gave it 3-4 sentences before I realized you are a stinky douche sock. I bet you and your bf did some funky stuff back in the 80’s with one of those camcorders you speak of.

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          • You said it all…and by the way the charges I presented here were never challenged by Cooper or the sheriff…I wonder why?

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      • Sir respectfully I have overwhelming suspicion that you have elected to omit portions of your rendition of your interaction with the Hartford County officer or it is just flat out BS. Furthermore, you had indicated in a prior post that the police and members of the States Attorneys office “refused” to entertain your complaint. I am a retired police supervisor and can say with considerable certainty that any citizen can request and will be provided with materials to file a complaint on an officer. I find it beyond hard to believe that any supervisor who was provided with the account you provided would not have it investigated. They would be opening themselves up for civil and possible criminal consequences. The complaint must be accepted per the manuals of every police management manual that I have ever known. No agency, especially in today’s world, would refuse to accept a complaint of this nature. In short my friend I strongly feel that something is clearly missing or it is just plain BS. Any additions or corrections?

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        • I think he is full of shit and just out for a troll. Probably the kind of guy that walks around town with his fly down for a reason.

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          • My comment was for..open your eyes…does the dagger puter need reprogramming. Yeah…open your! eyesr police supervisoor. The days of we are here, we are super ops and we will have everything under control? Those days are over…you can’t control something, you never had any control of to begin with. You have been fooling yourself. You put a gun in the hand of a man or woman and tell them to go out and shoot people…and they do. Problem is now they are gonna get killed too…
            Unintentionally, of course!

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    • Can someone please tell me exactly how often an armored vehicle is the appropriate tool for local police use? It’s a show of force and an expensive toy that sits idle 99.99% of the time and could easily be substituted for other vehicles. This kind of equipment seemed to make sense after 911 when local departments thought that real terror actions were a real possibility. That was 20 years ago and there hasn’t been anything even remotely close to another 911 so let’s stop this absurdity.

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  2. Yes let’s not benefit every county residents, but only those who benefit from public and mental health, education, housing relief or economic development in Harford County. Isn’t that the platform of the Democratic party, more social programs that don’t benefit every single taxpayer but ask every single taxpayer to pay for?? Give me a break!!

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  3. These Social programs are not helping anyone, This is all about taking your money and making it look like they care.
    The courts, the therapists, the psychiatrists, lawyers, even state delegates who don’t even respond to an email a phone call are not there to help anybody. Believe me I am a hard working public servant who has asked for help for a family member, and to be turned down numerous times or told to call this agency or this agency. I Pay more than my fare share in taxes, Only to be taxed more.

    The programs are not here to help, – this is a way for the democrats to employ as many people as possible, and create agency’s and have department heads and directors who tell you to call another office, or they have this other program down the street, or you don’t qualify for this or that because you exceed the federal poverty guidelines.

    Why not try to get people off of Welfare? Try to get people into JOBS. There Is work out here for everyone – times is tight I understand – but there is work for everyone.

    Police equipment – There is situations that require armored vehicles, when something bad happens everybody wants more police, Distribution Center shootings, mass shootings in Edgewood at a Granite Supply Center, The police need this- Its better to have it than not to have it.

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  4. An Armored Vehicle?? LOL…in harco??. So it can go to Cedar Day and bust down peoples garages or maybe up to North Harford and find out who’s tipping cows. What a joke. Use that 400,000 to hire more police, raise their salaries, etc.

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  5. Congratulations to Republican Harford County, Always dividing the county.
    So the sheriff buys another vehicle to satisfy his base so he can get reelected.
    Noting unusual about this in Harford County.
    What ‘s the first words out of the base against the HCDCC. Socialism. You clowns just approved of socialism when you approve of buying a vehicle that is not needed. They just wasted your tax dollars and you get nothing in return. Piece of mind that when you have a problem in your neighborhood there will be 2 armored vehicles. Next it will be a tank. How about a bunch of drones carrying weapons. Certainly you all need a fighter jet.
    Harford County War mongers..

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    • Maybe the Sheriff wants to make sure he has adequate resources if rioting, looting and burning down buildings occurs. Maybe the Sheriff is worried about his deputies if they are ordered to start the gun confiscations. Maybe the Sheriff is worried that the upcoming allowance of immigrants from foreign countries will bring terrorists into his County. Maybe the Sheriff is worried about gang violence. There are many reasons to invest in the Armored Vehicle and they are all proactive. Deterrents bring order and an Armored Vehicle parked in a neighborhood that is plagued with addictive drugs and violence may just bring order to that neighborhood. Not one person brought up the term you used, which the Dagger will not allow me to use without being censored, but YOU did. They might have used the term “Social Programs”, but only YOU brought the term you used to this discussion. Gordon, you are a divider and people like you will continue to divide Americans as long as you get political gain from it. Is it worth it?

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    • Gordon must have gotten a speeding ticket issued by HCSO and has beef about it still. He would be the first one to call for help because he’s a 2nd amendment destroyer and can’t defend his own bitch ass. A typical liberal labia.

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  6. Socialism. The kind Republicans like and the kind they don’t like.
    Republicans love police, firefighters, libraries, roads, trains, the military and many other types of socialism. The one they love is civilization. The biggest social program ever.
    What they hate is when anyone who may have a social program that may help the poor, the sick and the dying, all the time wanting prayers every where because they are Christians. Or should I say so called Christians.
    Keep using Socialism as your word to divide. It will come back to haunt you.

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    • Those things existed before Marxism came about. The Democratic “programs” don’t help anybody. They literally “program” the population to be dependent on the government. That is the Democratic agenda. Keep using Marxism as a term that unites and you will enslave us all.

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    • How will it come back to haunt us? Is it because the common tactic of those following the term you used, which I can’t, is to create violence and division? Will you Democrats put everyone in jail or concentration camps because they don’t agree with you or the term you keep using? How did we “Not See” this coming?

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  9. In recent years Harford County has experienced mass shootings (Granite counter business, etc). This vehicle is armored for the safety of its occupants and the force taking cover around it. It also protects the community in a baracade situation if helping to shield or remove victims from a business or home(s). It’s sad that a few are threatened by the “military” look of the vehicle. Please be careful driving pass APG or you will truly be triggered!

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    • The “military” look of the vehicle making people feel threatened should not surprise you. Look at how they made the AR-15 illegal because of it’s “military” appearance, yet it is nothing but a semi automatic rifle that uses clips. It is truly amazing…..

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  10. It’s an armored car! Wonder why Gordon and the liberal dance club didn’t complain for the decades that banks and others used armored cars to PROTECT their PEOPLE? You know, the militarization of the bank security!? Help us all!! You got it, just another way to vilify the police. Standard playbook for the modern liberal.

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      • Democrats represent many things, but liberty isn’t one of them. I’m surprised you haven’t heralded the armored vehicle’s purchase so you can use it during the so called “gun buy back” that Biden says he wants to orchestrate. The police will find those armored vehicles very handy when they are used to start the gun confiscations. We will see where Gahler’s support of the 1st Amendment lies when the HCSO is asked to go door to door to registered gun owner’s and “buy back” their guns. It will be just another day in the democracy….

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      • Just say it and it is absolutely true! Actually liberal and liberty come form the same root word “liberalis” in Latin. “liber” means free. Trust me Gordon, no-one is likely to be give you a compliment. Your fuzzy headed ideas about all things don’t lead to compliments.

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  13. What is liberty to conservative republicans. Pardon criminals of the lowest caliber. Liars, cheats, mass murders.
    They sit silently by as the Low life in the WH gives pardons to convicted criminals .
    If that is what conservatives call Liberty, then I want no part of it.
    Daily as republicans open their mouth they show them selves to be low life’s of the criminal element.
    One even goes so low that he brings armored bank vehicles that definitely does protect individual human life as an example that democrats don’t care. That is about as low as anyone can get to promote their values.

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    • Gordon, you are so whacked that I am surprised you haven’t been committed to a lunatic asylum by now. Which mass murderer has Trump pardoned? Have you lost your mind? Look, I question the integrity of both sides of the aisle all the time, but your reasoning is way out there. You are criminalizing political opinion and that makes YOU the criminal, just like all the criminals in the bureaucracy who call themselves the government. Trump has been pardoning people convicted of NON COMMON LAW crimes because NON COMMON LAW crimes aren’t crimes at all. NON COMMON LAW crime is really political persecution and those that create such unconstitutional statutes are the REAL criminals. How can you speak of unity when everything you are trying to do is divisive? By the way, armored cars protect money, not people. Are you on medication?

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        • You are insane Gordon. Those guards were fired on first and even though they were convicted for starting the gunfight, I for one believe them over a group of Iraqi liars. If the “civilians” had never fired a shot and were indeed massacred, maybe I would agree with you. In my opinion, they did their jobs and fought the enemy. Face the facts that you are taking the word of Iraqi’s who sympathized with the Al Qaida militants that were killed. You hate our Country so bad that you would take the word of Al Qaida terrorists over your own people. However, it shouldn’t shock me that you would take the side of our enemies just like every other Democratic Traitor in this Country…No wonder you like Biden.

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      • Soul Crusher here is all the pardons your hero Trump has pardoned. I don’t see where he pardoned anyone with non common law sentences.
        I also see a pardon for illegal voting by a republican. The jerks who commit the crimes but always blame the other party. By the way how often has your dog voted??
        Aren’t you the one who always want Black’s arrested for burning property. I see where Trump pardoned 2 whites for burning government property. Racism by the highest office in the land.

        https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-trump

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        • Once again, you are insane Gordon. Apparently, you need to refresh your memory on what a common law crime is and what isn’t. The government can’t be the victim Gordon. As for your spin on racism and comparing the Rancher’s actions to that of BLM in our cities, well, let’s just say that you prove you’re insane every time you type.

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          • Mr. Koerner,
            In your spare time could you please visit YouTube. It will only take about ten minutes of your time but please locate “ John Ross- How to paint like a Biden”. It is actually very informative from a different point of view. I don’t think it will change your mind but it may give some insight on the concerns of those of us who lean more to the right.

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          • Gordon, please start using something to type from other than your phone. I was on here a VERY long time before Trump ever even got into the Presidential picture. I was on here long before any of us ever heard of you as well. Anyway, please find a different doctor so that you can receive the medication you desperately need. .

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  15. Soul Crusher a perfect example pure evil. Can never open his mouth without accusing someone of what he is. Of course he has lots of company in this comment section. Each calling someone else what they are. Drug addicted blind hypocrites.

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      • Drug Dealer. A true Republican piece of a liar
        Don’t like the message attack the messenger.
        That’s all Republican trash know what to do.
        Simple minded scum who haven’t the brains to think for themselves.
        Harford scum keeps electing Harris. Someone who hates them but they don’t have the brains to know it.

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        • Hartford scum, haha. Dickheads like you hang Bernie stickers on their fridge and praise him as your savior as you’re caressing a pet cat like the Claw from Inspector Gadget. Harris will keep getting elected because he is aligned with the values of normal thinking people. Not like some failed political hack in Balt County. Keep talking shit, your cost of crack cocaine just went up 10%.

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          • Hey I got a joke…Q. when does Gordon change his diaper? A. It Depends(TM).

            Haha, Gordo boy, you are a wanker kunt.

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    • Oh, I see. If we don’t agree with a madman who is completely consumed by “Not See”ism then we must all be drug addicts. Gordon, you really do need mental help. Just because people believe in freedom doesn’t mean we are drug addicts, or does it mean we are criminals. However, a choir boy turned fascist traitor, like you, would never understand what we’re saying to begin with. Just for the record, you are lashing out at people that don’t give two squats about your opinion and the only thing I’m addicted to is cigarettes. I know you don’t like that, but it is the truth. In closing, a man like you, who is close to his days end, shouldn’t be persecuting and judging everyone you encounter, even on the internet. Karma is a female dog and if God judge’s you the way you’ve judged everyone else, you won’t like it at all.

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      • Gordo got burnt. Did anyone vote for him besides himself 2 years ago??? Oh, what does that say, even lib dems smell his fecal matter dripping out of his adult diapers….

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  16. You clowns sure can make me laugh. Soul Crusher had climbed back in is hole months ago. Now he has support as has climbed out of his slimy hole.
    District 7 keeps voting in a potty mouth and a drunk and a the quack of the 1st congressional district.
    Not a ounce of brains in Republican scum bags.

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    • Awww, sounds like you are still walking funny after the loss 2 years ago. Guess people were smart enough to smell the tool bagery odor which you emit. Gordon, when will you realize that if you can win at loosing that you Gordo are a real champion???

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    • That’s it Gordon! Your crack cocaine cost will now be taxed 15% and your crystal meth will see a 5% increase. I will redistribute this additional wealth to those liberals in need of low cost recreational use drugs.

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    • Climbed back into my hole? What drugs are you on Gordon? I’ve been right here the whole time, but you are the one nobody heard from for a few months because you were using other screen names to spread the idiocy of the Democratic Traitors Against America on Facebook and the Dagger. Gordon, please see your doctor and tell him your meds aren’t working like they used to. I’m sure he’ll increase the dosage so you can return to your normal moronic self.

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  17. Thank You all again for a laugh this morning. How could Harford get so many uneducated republicans. Oh, it took 40 years of trickle down economics which never funded schools and the drug pushers.
    Seems the clowns are really drugged heavy in this country.

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    • Gordon, you are out of your mind. Under Trump the trickle down economics turned our Country into an economic juggernaut until the Coronavirus was released on this world. The virus’s research was paid for by the terrorist Anthony Fauci who did work with the Chinese Communist Party to release the virus. However, the Coronavirus is NOT as deadly as you Democratic morons keep telling everybody and the Democratic Traitors have used it as an excuse to crush the most robust economy we’ve seen in decades. Everything that comes out of your mouth is a political lie and I believe it is highly likely that the Democratic Party was in on the virus’s release. Just like you traitors can’t hide the election fraud you morons will get busted for being part of the New World Odor.

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  19. I think $400k is a bargain for this thing. It will serve the county for many years to come. I don’t get the argument about it militarizing the police. I’m guessing those that oppose it for those reasons should also wonder why police have guns since the military has guns. Those that are for it probably wonder about the thought process of these liberal snowflakes??? Good thing Harford County isn’t infested with too many of these scumbag, dirt merchant, douche cockroaches that the other counties have. Baltimore Country is a prime example of what not to be. Andy Harris for President 2024!

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  20. So many of you are doing your best to discredit what I wrote. Guess I am hitting a nerve. Guilty people go out of their way to discredit the truth.
    Guilty conscience.

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    • Now this tool is a psychologist! Haha, Gordo has been contradicting himself on the Dagger for years. Hey Gordo, wanna talk about those AR conversation kits again?? Haha, what a joke, just like your votes!!!!

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      • “2. Banning AR-15’s by its self is of no use unless banning all conversion kits are included in that law. There are about a dozen or so rifles already sold and are being sold that can be converted into an AR-15. I would like manufacturers to stamp the parts of rifle that can be exchangeable with serial numbers that match the rifle serial number. This should be a deterrent to stop converting weapons into a weapon as was not originally designed.” -Gordon

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  21. Surprisingly you all got back from your flag waving and stop the steal.
    I must really be hitting a sore spot.
    Republicans vote illegally all the time. This time their own president cast a fraudulent vote from Mar A Lago. He signed an agreement that no one can live there permanently yet lies and claims that’s his address.
    Voter fraud. Known criminal openly commits a crime.

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    • Gordizzle, hate to do this to you, but my hands are a bit tied. Cost for your crack cocaine will be facing a 20% increase. Your crystal meth, not looking good either. That will go up 10%.

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    • That means a lot from a dude that looks like the creepy guy always getting caught at the end of a Scooby Doo episode.

      Republicans commit voter fraud? Is that why you lost the election or you just outright suck?

      Still waiting on your AR conversion education? C’mon man, lying dog faced pony soldier….

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    • Gordon, you are crazy. Trump can claim residency in Florida by maintaining a private quarters and claiming an active duty member of the Armed Forces. Let’s face facts, the President is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and is active duty as long as he remains in office. His vote was totally legal. As for his residency issues when he is out of office, he may have to make some changes and resolve some issues. However, if you think Trump can’t use it as his personal residence then you are just being dumb. If the Corporation that owns the club transfers ownership to him either by sale or negotiated interests and it becomes his personal property, the contract is null and void. He would probably have to have it switched back to a residence and lose the tax exempt status, but it can be done very easily. Anyone that knows Trump realizes that he will probably just renegotiate the deal. Just keep taking the medicine Gordon and it will all be alright.

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    • I don’t think Armored Vehicles are going to be used to lock up drug dealers, but think that if you wish. I’m pretty sure there has to be an certain set of circumstances to use Armored Vehicles in policing. However, to each his own…I still think you’re crazy.

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  23. That means a lot from a dude that looks like the creepy guy always getting caught at the end of a Scooby Doo episode.

    Republicans commit voter fraud? Is that why you lost the election or you just outright suck?

    Still waiting on your AR conversion education? C’mon man, lying dog faced pony soldier….

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  24. Poor souls. Each and every day republicans prove they are now the scum of earth. They use and sell drugs and blame others for their crimes.
    They are so corrupt they hook there own kids. Just like Trump anything for a buck.

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    • El Gordo(that’s Spanish for phuckhead),

      Well shit fire! I think Gordie just wrote his next failed campaign points.

      Can you write another letter to Dagger so we can all read you getting shitted on again? Just wanted to revisit the fun from 2 years ago?

      Maryland needs more delegates like you. Further add to the State of Confusion…

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  26. Tennessee Christmas bomber a Trump supporter.
    It becomes clearer why the sheriff needs 2 armoured vehicles. With Harford County filled with crazy right wingers in trucks with Trump flags parading the highways of Harford County. Who knows when their crack heads will pop.

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    • I don’t know where you get your information from, but I haven’t seen the bomber’s political affiliation anywhere on the internet. Please source the information. Gordon you are a batshit crazy Democrat that hates anybody who doesn’t agree with you on any topic. You need an emergency evaluation.

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  27. Yesterday when the bomber was first ID there was a picture of a bearded man with a Trump hat as the picture of the bomber. Since you brought that picture up I researched all posts. They all show the new picture of him and the other one is not posted any more.

    I don’t know if there was a mistake made earlier or if the picture was factual. My apology if I posted wrong information.

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    • “
      Yesterday when the bomber was first ID there was a picture of a bearded man with a Trump hat as the picture of the bomber. Since you brought that picture up I researched all posts. They all show the new picture of him and the other one is not posted any more.

      I don’t know if there was a mistake made earlier or if the picture was factual. My apology if I posted wrong information.”

      Gordon,

      Who took it down? Was it the one armed man??

      Nah, you just went full on tard with that one…..

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    • Hey Bob! Where is your buddy Gordon? Is he hiding his basement like your guy’s new king?

      Gordon got scared. He can try to give it, but can’t take it. I heard Gordon didn’t come out of his room for 2 weeks after loosing a state delegate election by a land slide.

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    • Bob there is an old saying, “You can’t shack up with the Devil then expect God to pay the rent.” The businessman in the White House (not a politician) successfully put a strategy together that provided the quickest development of a vaccine to save lives. Now you are experiencing the incompetence and finger pointing of politicians responsible for vaccine distribution. As usual, it is all talk and no action. Have you noticed who got in the front of the line for their vaccinations? Politicians like Cuomo, Biden, Harris, and AOC who declared any vaccine distributed by the Trump administration to be questionable and unsafe are now asking us to admire their bravery. In my opinion, they lack the integrity and knowledge to lead this country through any type of crisis. Like I said once before, Bob it looks like you got what you wanted with your vote. Wash your hands and stay safe.

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      • Well said WhatMattersisBlue. Unfortunately your easy to comprehend points don’t mean shit to jack asses like Bob and Gordon. You can give those idiots logic on grass being green and the sky being blue, but they won’t be able to understand it. It’s way beyond the intellectual abilities. You could get a rock to agree with common sense before morons like them would.

        Hey Gordon, still hiding??? No ballz

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      • Blue, we’ll have to wait and see where the Biden Presidency takes us. The challenges ahead for him and our country are daunting that’s for sure. Let’s take the high road, stay positive, and hope for the best.

        I would like to wish you & yours and everyone on the Dagger a Happy, Safe & Prosperous New Year!

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    • “Vaccination is going slowly because nobody is in charge”
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/31/vaccination-slow-trump-administration-states/

      What Dr. Jha wrote in the above article makes sense. It’s clear many of our state run public health agencies don’t have the funding and resources to administer the vaccine distribution.

      Covid-19 is a “NATIONAL CRISIS”. It is the responsibility of our Federal government to step up and fill the vacuum –“NOW”

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      • It’s the blame game! If Chick-fil-A was in charge of dispensing immunizations, we would all be vaccinated by now. Aren’t you tired of these politicians sitting in meetings telling each other what a great job they are doing? My New Year’s resolution is to stop watching, reading, and listening to Fake News.

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      • The Federal Government DID step up and delivered a vaccine faster than imaginable. I notice the Democratic morons whom have downed Trump from day on and every step of the way during the Coronavirus hoax have all got their shots. The Federal government has done an incredibly good job with this and now the Democratic Traitors Against America want to blame the Federal government for distribution in the States. Trump can only deliver the vaccine to the States. The States and the incompetent bunch of cornholes that run the untrustworthy State governments must distribute within their States. Once again, nothing to see here but incompetence from those whom ran fraudulent elections and have hampered the best economy we’ve seen in decades. Leave it to the Democrats to accuse others of what they do best and that is screw everything up.

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    • Bob, after what the American people have seen in the course of this election, I am surprised there hasn’t already been violence in the streets. However, haven’t we already seen violence from rioting, looting and burning down cities? Wasn’t all this prior violence in the streets a Democratic apparatus? When the Republic is being overthrown by the Democratic Traitors Against America the only recourse is violence and it is uttered in our Constitutions. The Supreme Court is refusing cases because they think there will be riots. So, basically the highest Court in the land is being subjected to terrorism. This terrorism is a direct result of the Democratic Traitors and the Media Machine they built to commit TREASON against the United States.

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          • Obviously you do give A shit, Jon… Or you wouldn’t respond.

            You are the traitor . you are a criminal, a liar, a pedophiles and an idiot.. but most of all.. an ignorant ass.

            Every time you post. You demonstrate what An asshole you are.

            Call back into your hole, your mama Is calling for you!

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          • It seems to me that you care far much more about my opinion than I do of yours or else you wouldn’t keep stalking my every comment. Seek help for your mental illness and get some medication.

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    • Violence in most any case is unacceptable. I would much rather see political differences resolved in a fair and transparent Democratic election process. After observing some of the antics employed during this Presidential election it could be argued that a fair and transparent election could be a thing of the past. I find it interesting that violence as a conflict resolution has unfortunately been the norm particularly, but not solely, by liberals and Democrats. I must have missed the cries for the recall of Maxine Waters when she openly called for her to constituents to harass any Trump supporter, no matter where they are, no matter what they are doing and said make them feel threatened and un wanted. Kind of looks like a double standard. Old white Republican politicians making inappropriate statements should be considered for removal from office but black female Democratic politicians who make inappropriate statements get a pass.

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      • Violence is a last resort, but is sometimes necessary when facing a tyranny. Never forget this Country was founded by men who fought tyranny and violence is what defeated that tyranny. If our government becomes a tyranny then who knows what will happen. However, I agree it should be a last resort even though the Democrats use violence as a political tool now a days. ANTIFA and BLM are perfect examples of Democratic apparatuses of violence used to instill terrorism in our government. Like I said previously, the Supreme Court won’t take cases because they are afraid of rioting. That is terrorism influencing the Judicial Branch of our government and it is sponsored by the Democratic Traitors Against the United States. It may be time to crack some skulls….

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    • Gordon is “posting” under my screen name of “SoulCrusher” in response to anything I type. Bob, Gordon and Michael Callahan have all been using this tactic to silence the truth I type. Gordon, Bob and Mike Callahan are not worth sparring with because they believe in Democratic “Not See”ism.

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    • In a world where the government is planning gun confiscations under the ruse of government “gun buy backs” and that the “gun buy backs” will be consensual. That’s the world in which Harford County needs a second armored vehicle. Do you really think the police will be safe confiscating guns from disenfranchised legal gun owners? If you do, seek the emergency evaluation you are desperately in need of…

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  40. I must say that I was extremely frustrated and embarrassed for our country after observing this year’s Presidential election process. A lot of very questionable activities to say the least. What saddens me even more is to see Republicans taking a page from the liberal Democratic play book and lowering themselves to their level. I guess after observing the actions of the Democrats for the last four years they thought “what the hell” the media will never call the Democrats out for it. Why not? I wish they would have handled it differently.

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    • Another election stolen by Stacy Abrahms and the Democratic Traitors Against America. Buckle up everybody, we’re getting ready to see a wild ride….

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        • blm and antifa have both occupied cities, looted, burned police cars, attacked officers
          FOR MONTHS and they are given a pass. they were out attacking republican senators and congressman on the streets of dc on tape and they are given a pass.

          when the right does anything they are labeled terrorists

          you people are sick

          the alt-right just proved that they can be just a powerful as the alt-left and that no one
          on either side of the isle is safe from the fury of the mob

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          • Black mayor of Atlanta went on live TV yelling at BLM to stop looting…stop the violence and get off the streets….more than once. Many Dem were saying this isn’t the way…stop the violence. Those announcements are all on Youtube but I’m sure you don’t want to see that. They were wrong and should have been arrested. But I don’t recall cops helping BLM down the steps or taking selfies with them either. But keep that tin foil hat on your head and thinking these Conspiracy theories are true….idiot.

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          • Why did the BLM members act in such a way that the Mayor had to chastise them. Maybe because their bad behavior occurs all too frequently which impacts what little legitimacy that they have.

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        • @TrumpersAreDumb – No. I didn’t go to D.C. and I watched everything unfold on the TV just like you. I don’t need to wake up because I will never be a “woke”, brainwashed Democratic “Not See” like you. You fuktards aren’t woke, you’re brainwashed “Not See” traitors against the United States….

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  43. I don’t understand. Bob can you please offer your point of view on what to me appears to be a double standard. I am going to refer to the young woman that was shot to death yesterday as a “protester.”The reason for this is all summer long I have been watching the news and observing BLM and other liberal demonstrators burning, looting, and being involved in activities where lives have been lost still be labeled as “protesters “ by the MSM. To be totally fair I do not know all of the facts leading up to the shooting incident. I believe her to have been an unarmed white female shot to death by possibly a police officer. My question is, and I am asking you to be honest, do you think the coverage and narrative would have been the same if the victim of the shooting was an unarmed African American female. I am asking this question even if the shooting was found to be totally justified.

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    • and don’t forget she was a 14 year veteran of the Air Force who was using her Constitutional right to protest a completely fraudulent election….I guess White lives don’t matter to the Democratic “Not See” Party.

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      • For the sake of avoiding a rant, let me say that I am experiencing a desensitized reaction to yesterday’s event. I guess I will rely on dishonest media outlets to interpret what I am seeing. I can’t seem to tell a peaceful protest from a riot. I do know what hate feels like and it is smothering us. Let’s be truthful!

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    • First of all I am not a fan of the New York Times. In my opinion they are far from fair and balanced but that is neither here nor there. You seem to be a man of reasonable intelligence. Even with limited information do you think that the coverage and narrative, or lack there of, would have been different if the victim was an unarmed African American female regardless of the circumstances? It is kind of a basic question. Respectfully sir you seem to be evading the question.

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      • OYE, according to an article that I read from the Wall Street Journal she was shot by police and the officer was placed on administrative leave while her death is being investigated. An article from NPR (National Public Radio) provides the following information:

        “A witness to the shooting told the TV station WUSA9 that “a number of police and Secret Service were saying, ‘get down, get back, get out of the way.’ She didn’t heed the call.” At that point, the witness said, “they shot her in the neck.” (NPR was unable to independently contact the witness, but he also appears in footage of the shooting itself.”

        Assuming the above is correct, I wouldn’t necessarily characterize the woman as a “victim” Also, I believe the “coverage and narrative” for this particular incident would have been about the same irrespective of the race of the woman.

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        • I need a scorecard to keep track of the current political game plan regarding law enforcement. Are they being supported or scapegoated? Do the politicians view them as heroes or racist criminals? Democratic politicians have refused federal law enforcement assistance in every city under siege this entire year. As we watched police precincts, federal court houses, businesses, and community neighborhoods destroyed, the media and Democratic politicians reminded us that “Riots are the language of the unheard.”
          Police must be allowed to police without the interference of politicians! Licensed healthcare providers must be allowed to practice medicine without political intervention! The free will of American citizens must never be deprived at the whim of a political party. Free speech must never be censored by a politically biased and untrustworthy media.
          A police officer should not have died after being beaten to death by an unruly mob. A woman should not have been killed for standing up for her beliefs and constitutional right to do so. This event demonstrated many things; racism wasn’t one of them. It is inexcusable that our country is suffering because of politics!!!

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        • Bob, are you outta you mind? If that woman had been black and this occurred at a BLM riot there would’ve been riots for days, possibly months. She would’ve had her picture painted on murals all across this nation and the Mayor of D.C. would’ve named a street with her name. You have to stop portraying false narratives because we all have already seen what happens to the contrary of your very politically biased opinion.

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        • Bob, I really hope that you are not that naïve. SoulCrusher is absolutely correct. If the victim in this incident was an unarmed African American female the repercussions would have been catastrophic. Regardless of whether the incident was justified or not the MSM would be all over it. You know it. No I don’t know the whole story but I was a cop for many years. I bleed blue but I have never heard of a situation where a person, particularly an unarmed female of any race, being shot for failing to comply to a verbal command only. I hope for the officer’s sake there was more of a threat posed which would justify such action. None of the accounts you provided indicated that. Then you make the statement that you would not characterize the woman as a “victim”. The MSM characterized the BLM and liberal demonstrators as “victims” when they were pepper sprayed during there attempt to breach the White House. In case you don’t remember chemical agent was used on those “victims” because they failed to comply and move back. The MSM had a field day with that. Let’s compare and contrast the Capital shooting to the Micheal Brown incident. Very little coverage regarding the Capital shooting has been reported by the MSM. Then you have Michael Brown, a thug who attacked a police officer in his car and was subsequently shot to death. The incident was found to be justified by the DOJ but not before the MSM disseminated a false narrative based on race which fueled a national incident. Misinformation being spread by the likes of Al Sharpton and other racially divisive people prompted a disturbed individual from Baltimore to travel to New York City where he assassinated two police officers. I don’t mean to be vulgar but don’t jerk us off by saying that the race of those involved played little or no part in the media coverage or lack there of. If you want to be a liberal that’s fine but please don’t manipulate the truth.

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          • OYE, I’m sorry, but try as I may, I just don’t see the race connection you are attempting to make. The death of that young woman is not about racism or your main bugaboos — MSM & BLM. It’s pretty simple. It doesn’t require any manipulation of the truth on my part. Her tragic death happened because she allowed herself to become part of a violent, lawless mob

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          • I think you must be getting tired and misread or misconstrued the message that SoulCrusher and myself were trying to convey. No one said that racism was a factor in her death. Read it again tomorrow when you are more well rested. We were referring to the way the incident could be reported and factors influencing same. Have a good weekend.

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    • Ok Bob I will momentarily deviate from my position on bias media activity and the dangers and irreconcilable racial divide they have caused our country. As previously stated I am very embarrassed that those Trump supporters, if that was really who they all were, would lower themselves to the level of the liberal and BLM protesters antics we have been watching for over a year. The video was very disturbing to me and unlike the MSM I will not offer an opinion without further information. I do have some questions. Again I was not there and am not familiar with the layout of the building nor do I know how quickly the threat developed. I am quite sure there are additional safe areas in that building to further the safety and security of members of Congress. I wonder why the police and security officers found themselves with their backs to a locked door. Maybe the incident developed too quickly. Again I wasn’t there. I am curious why non lethal options were not employed. Are the inner perimeters of the Capital, the White House, and certain Military facilities areas where unauthorized persons entering are subject to having lethal force employed against them? Again I don’t know but if that was the case it seems that information should be made available. I did observe individuals raising objects which appeared to be clubs or sticks and approaching the police officers. Again I was not there but that activities could have been justification for an application of lethal force. As for the unarmed female victim of the shooting I did not observe behavior justifying her being shot. There may be other videos and other accounts but they did not appear to be apparent n that video. Again it is extremely troubling that those protesters lowered themselves to the level of the liberal Democrat and BLM mentality.

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      • OYE, we agree. I did not see anything I thought would justify the shooting of the woman. However, I do realize that police are just human beings and in a siege/barricade situation, like the one at the Capitol, it would be pretty easy to over react. We’ll have to wait and see as more information comes out.

        I have a question for you on another topic. . Three of my favorite newspapers are the Washington Post, New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Some of my favorite online news sites are Google, Yahoo , AP, UPI. Politico and The Hill. I’m curious about some of your favorites.

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        • Good question Bob. With Big Tech outfits such as Amazon, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Apple, Google, etc basically controlling what and how news is released, censoring or eliminating Conservative opinion sites, that is a good question. I believe you know deep down, or I hope you would if you were truly a man of principle and integrity, that the First Amendment is being usurped by your liberal friends. Congratulations you guys managed to manipulate the outcome of a Presidential election in what is, but I don’t know for how long, the most powerful and greatest country in the world. You know I am an old man with maybe, by the grace of God, twenty or so years left. The world you are creating for my children and grandchildren truly frightens me.

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  50. Bob I just read an article in the Washington Post, you know that fair and balance apolitical publication, about two Capital Police Officers being suspended for standing with some people and taking a selfie with some individuals wearing MAGA hats. One officer actually put a MAGA hat on his head for another selfie. These individuals were not actively involved in any type of demonstration at the time of picture and I believe it was prior to the storming of the Capital building. In the aftermath probably not a wise move but I think the agency might be in a little legal problem down the road. It might involve it reaching the State or Federal Supreme Court but I feel that the officers will prevail. I am asking you to consider your response from a civil rights and Constitutional point of view and try not to involve your obvious contempt and disdain for President Trump. Tomorrow night I am going to solicit opinions from some of the posters on their vision of how four years of a Biden Presidency with Schumer and Pelosi in charge of Congress will impact our country. Should be fascinating. In numerous prior posts I have attempted to have anyone convince myself and the other readers why Mr. Biden should be considered the most viable candidate for POTUS. In most every case the only constant response was his tenure in Congress. I don’t recall many of his accomplishments or qualifications being made available. Should be a lot of fun and hopefully very educational. Well I got to go the National Championship is on.

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      • Bob I don’t know you at all but are you sure your rub with anyone or anything relating to President Trump might be influencing your decision. I have to tell you that I am not a fan of the BLM movement. I think that in many cases their message is inappropriate and often hypothetical. With that being said in late summer of 2019 I took my family to tio pepe restaurant in Baltimore City. As we were walking from the parking lot we observed an approximately 4×6 foot BLM sign. There were three young black male men posing at that sign with two black police officers. One was a male patrolman and the other was a female Sergeant. All of the subjects were raising their right hands with a clenched fist while a small group of individuals were taking pictures with their phones. I didn’t particularly care for what I observed but I didn’t think they really did anything wrong other than exercising momentary poor judgement. As a young officer I and my post partner got a call at 3 in the morning for a group of disorderly females which turned out to be a group of drunk girls in a bachelorette party. We asked them nicely to get into their limousine and leave. They insisted that before they would leave they wanted myself and my partner to enter the limousine for a group photo. We did, the photo was taken, we got out, and the left without further incident. We thought we did a good job of abating the disturbance. The complainant who was observing from her residence was not amused and called our Sergeant. The point I am making is that well intended acts of human nature are not always perceived the same. Right now there is a lot of political slant being put on things.

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  51. I regret having to say this, but I believe the Inauguration should be held indoors under the Capitol Dome. Besides being safer, America might be spared the spectacle of hundreds, if not thousands of military troops, being front and center when our President takes his oath of office.

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  52. Pence is a spineless jellyfish. Conservative pansy, this guy licked Trumps boots and probably jerked him for the past 4 years…then Trump tells his cult to go get him…they were chanting “Where’s Pence”…”Hang Pence”…yet Pence is the loyal dog p#@#y and just sits there like a tool…HMMM..wonder why Trump picked him in the first place. POS.

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  53. As everyone is well aware we have just gone through probably the most tumultuous Presidential election in history. During the entire process I have repeatedly to no avail asked for someone, anyone, to point out the qualities of President Elect Biden which would explain why he is the best person for the job. During a good portion of the election process he remained in obscurity. His running partner was a woman that during the Presidential primary process could never obtain the support of over 2% of the support of the Democratic Party. He did have the obvious support of the MSM but why beside their obvious disdain for President Trump. I thought it would be interesting to open the floor to the discussion of two things. Why did the Democrats consider him the best available choice. I am even willing to give him a pass with regards to the very questionable conduct of his son. The second question is what people envision the country to be like under his leadership after four years. The outlook should be fairly promising. Here is a man that will not, at least for now, be maligned by he MSM on a daily basis for four years. Here is a man serving his term with a Democratic House of Representatives that will not shelf their legislative duties to pursue erroneous unfounded investigations to discredit him. Here is a man that the FBI and other federal investigative agencies at least for now, will not secretly investigate him and his family. The man has no political obstacles. He should be able to move mountains. I would really be interested in knowing what people think the results a Biden Presidency would yield in four years positive or negative.

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    • He has 47 years of service…Trump had 0. So “we” gave Trump a shot and now 350k people have died because he botched the Covid response (and yes he did…knew how dangerous it was and didn’t tell the American people instead lied…made the mask a political symbol, etc)…there has been an attack on Washington by his crazy cult where people died, and threats on every state capital building in the country over the next week. Ya really think it will be worse in 4 years with Biden?????

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      • First of all thank you for your response. As far as the answer to my first question you provided the same answer that most always comes up “47 years”. Nothing more to add? Then you go on your tirade about President Trump. He lost. He is out. It is not germane to my second question. I was interested in peoples vision of our country after four years of a Biden Presidency. I do thank you for responding even though I was hoping for a more informative response.

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    • OYE…The last time I wrote this in response to a comment I was censored. This is what I stated about the current situation, “Organizational leadership requires having the right people on the bus with a driver who knows where he is going and is headed in the right direction. At this time, I fear that we are in an Uber minivan driving down a slippery slope.”

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      • Good point but fear not he will have Schumer and Pelosi assisting his driving efforts from the back seat. You and I both know that whatever happens to that minivan, positive or negative, Mr. Biden will be heralded by the MSM as the next Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger lol. I pray that minivan has plenty of airbags and seatbelts.

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    • OYE, I’m curious. If the limousine incident had happened later in your police career do you believe your response would have been the same? Do you think that if the BLM poster incident had happened when you were younger you would still characterize the two police officer’s as “exercising momentary poor judgment?

      Your point about “…well intended acts of human nature…’ is a legitimate one. Remember, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. We need to ensure that our good intentions are followed up with good actions.

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      • In today’s world sadly I probably would have refrained from entering the limousine. In our new world order as it pertains to incidents being posted on social media it probably would not have been a good idea although I firmly believe that our actions at that time promoted police community relations and eliminated a potential conflict. In reference to the officers posing in front of the BLM sign with their fists raised I would not have agreed with it early in my career or for that matter ever but think I would have still dismissed it as hopefully “momentarily exercising poor judgement”. In light of the behavior this past year being displayed by members of the BLM movement to include rioting, burning, looting, etc. I think it would be extremely poor judgement for the officers to become involved in a similar photo session. Nice try though Bob. I’m sorry but I won’t take the bait silly man.

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    • On the 12th of this month I requested for someone, anyone, to provide me with data explaining the qualities and qualifications of Mr. Biden to be the best choice for the position of POTUS. What made him stand out from all of the other qualified Democratic candidates? What are is plans to heal our country and bridge the existing divides? The only answer that was proffered was his time of service in government. I was never a politician but I have seen several cases of people occupying various occupations for many years and being known by their coworkers as R.O.D. (Retired on duty) ….you know the kind of person that occupied a position for many years and never accomplished anything notable. It is kind of scary to me an individual who was supported by the establishment Democratic Party, the MSM, and a large portion of the population and no one seems to want to explain this support. Even Bob, a man that I often do not agree with but has my respect as an internet research Guru, has for whatever’s reason chosen not to offer any answers to my question. Then I asked for people to provide an example of their view of how our country will look and operate after four years of a Biden Presidency. I hope someone responds. You know the phrase “ inquiring minds need to know”

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    • In part, and only in part, do I agree with Bob. What is the big deal about the use of metal detectors. If you are legally licensed to carry a concealed firearm you would possess the appropriate documentation. We live in a world where you have to go through such devices in High Schools and I’m told even King’s Dominion. If it keeps people safe Great! Now let’s talk about the second amendment. I feel that law abiding citizens should have right to carry a concealed firearm after completing the required background checks. The reason is that all the gun buy backs (utter stupidity) and even government gun seizures (frightening) will not keep guns out of the hands of criminals. First of all I would doubt very seriously that a gangbanger would ever consider selling their semiautomatic back to a legal authority. Government gun seizures would most always involve people who have legally documented firearms. Criminals can and will get guns. The police can not be everywhere all of the time to protect innocent victims. I think think that the answer to illegal gun possession and or use is simple. Zero tolerance. Liberals and the ACLU will belch and fart but zero tolerance is the answer. You get caught in the illegal possession of a handgun you go to jail for a mandatorily ten years. No probation, no stets. Mandatory jail. No exceptions. Equal application of the law to all. It could be the case that certain groups could be more impacted than others but zero tolerance must be employed at all times. In the long run everyone would be better off. Prior to the implementation of the zero tolerance initiative there should be at least a six month public awareness campaign to educate, alert, and warn possible violators of the sanctions. This is the only way to solve the gun problem in this country. In China in the early 20th century there was a tremendous opium abuse problem. They decided to address the demand aspect of the problem and not so much the supply. If you got caught in possession of opium you went to jail for a very long period of time. No exceptions. In a very short period of time the problem was virtually nonexistent. If properly implemented this concept would not only protect the Constitutional rights of good law abiding citizens but also make them more safe.

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    • I only had the occasion to view a small portion of Tucker Carlson’s show. The portion I observed showed various incidents of politicians acting unprofessionally to include Senator Schumer standing outside the Supreme Court clearly threatening Justice Kavanaugh, Maxine Waters inciting people to harass any and all President Trump supporters and make them feel uncomfortable and threatened wherever they might be, Speaker Pelosi openly suggesting that people go out and protest and physically demonstrate, and clips of AOC suggesting that social disobedience needs to be employed all over the country to get the point across. I guess the Huffington Post didn’t feel the need to include that in their article. I didn’t see Mr Carlson’s comments made regarding AOC stating that she was extremely scared and felt that her life was in danger. The Capitol building is equipped with bunkers that reportedly could withstand a nuclear blast. The members of Congress were well aware of the demonstrations outside and could have at anytime retreated to the safety of same if they felt unsafe. After viewing the video where the girl was shot I began to think about the picture of Democratic Congressman standing behind the line of police officers and not seeking a safer location. Could that picture have been made to make a political point? I am not saying that it was but it seemed highly irregular that if the gentleman truly felt threatened why did he not seek immediate shelter. Since we are on the topic I would like to move to reported statements made by certain news sources regarding President Trump and the demonstration at the Capitol building. I observed enough of his speech to know that he did encourage his supporters to respond and make their feelings be known about the improprieties they felt occurred. Could someone please show me any evidence that he made statements which encouraged people to storm the building. If they were made I did not see it. Since I am on a roll I must tell you that I was totally disgusted by the antics of Mr. Tapper of CNN challenging the patriotism and the Constitutional first amendment rights of Congressman Brian Mast. To imply that Congressman Mast, a dedicated war veteran who lost both of his legs in combat, is unpatriotic because he disagrees with the narrative of the MSM is truly disgusting and shameful. I don’t like to debase myself to this level but I envision Mr. Tapper to be on the same level as poster Mike Callahan . A spineless little p—-y that needs to be bitch slapped. His comments infuriated me to such a high degree that I actually lowered myself to that of the liberal protestor or BLM mentality which has been a common narrative for over a year. Violence. There is entire too much slanted editorializing on both sides with important pieces of information being omitted by both sides. It needs to stop now.

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    • You left out the 4th virus and that is the Democratic “Not See” movement that everyone else is afraid to call it what it is. You can call it “wokeness”. You can call it “cancel culture”. You can call it “identity politics”. However, there is no denying the Democrats are acting like “Not See”s and that is just the way it is….

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    • Bob this post about an inauguration letter made me laugh, too. I am laughing at the idea that you believe this to be true. The content is similar to the opinions expressed on The Dagger by such a diverse group.
      I don’t intend to participate in any of the inauguration events. My birthplace, Washington DC, is now a policed militarized zone protecting corrupt politicians who think that social workers can protect and serve the rest of us. Why do you suppose they are so fearful? Is it because they called rioting, during the entire year of 2020, peaceful protesting…yet on January 6, 2021 a group of peaceful protesters are being credited for an insurrection?
      Your condescending attitude towards OYE regarding news articles and reference sources needs to be checked. It is difficult to find the truth anywhere! In this past year, we have all adjusted to sitting down and shutting up, but no one will allow a government to tell us what to think. I have my own “moral compass” and I will make my own decisions.

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    • It’s a Gallup Poll. The demographics of those who take the polls lean blue. Everyone already knows this and just because the Gallup Poll was covered by NewsMax doesn’t mean it isn’t the same batch of people they always seem to poll. If NewsMax would conduct its own poll I’m sure the numbers would be different. That’s just the way it is and even if the whole Country mirrored the opinions of the Gallup Poll it wouldn’t change my mind about that child touching, hair sniffing, Chinese colluding scoundrel that the Democratic “Not See” Party placed in office. I said “placed” because we all know the bureaucracy stole the election on behalf of the Democrats.

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    • Bob the poem is lovely. Michelle Obama has impeccable style and class. My heart smiles because we have a “Love Story” in the White House, after four years. Biden signed a stack of Executive Actions, his words not mine.
      Maybe the Inauguration Day of Joe Biden will get an Emmy.
      Excuse me, while Biden talked about destroying white supremacy, lies, and domestic terrorism Seattle and Portland were again under attack and destruction by liberal peaceful protesters. Where is a social worker when you need one? What you viewed as a positive, joyous celebration, others witnessed petty negativity. The whole event was a contradiction of unity.
      Intelligent people (Democrats and Republicans) can figure this out. Elected politicians need to do their jobs without all the drama and constant chaos. Good night.

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        • Thank You, Bob. Unity is so emotional. I woke up early this morning so that I can go shopping for a purple dress. What the heck, Antifa doesn’t like Democrats….look at Portland.
          Sarcasm aside, we have a lot of work to do.

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          • There will be no unity as long as Democrats use political discrimination. That’s just the way it is. No poems or stimulus checks will change that. Count on it…

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  71. The following is ABC’s take on Wednesday night’s riots in Portand and Seattle:
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/portland-police-arrest-rioters-damage-democratic-party-office/story?id=75398433

    The following video from is Sean Hannity’s Fox show last night of the same events:
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6224686986001#sp=show-clips

    ABC reported the events as “…largely peaceful…” with 8 rioters arrested. On his show Sean Hannity characterized it as “…chaos, violence in the streets of Portland and Seattle tonight…”

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    • Chaos:
      a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order. any confused, disorderly mass:

      The situation of chaos has no boundaries. You can have chaos in the kitchen, hallway, an arena, or a much larger area. Newsflash: the city of Portland has been in chaos all summer. Your liberal slant and justification for these and many other things is sometimes laughable. Let me ask just one question to hopefully open your liberal eyes. Would you have wanted to be in that area during that “mostly peaceful demonstrations“ with your wife, children, of grandchildren? Furthermore, a month ago I suggested that you take your family to Mondawmin Mall on a Friday night to gain insight on some of the subject manner you have been pontificating about in some of your posts. I would bet you never did. You have referred to former President Trump on numerous occasions as the “ Divider in Chief”. I don’t know if you think you are being cute with your back door comments and innuendos or it is your subliminal need to reenforce your intellectual ego but for some reason you feel the need to encourage further divide. Your comments rarely support healing or the pursuit of unity. Here it comes. Tell us how your only motive is pursuing other points of view. I certainly can’t stop you from posting but sometimes in the words of SoulCrusher I wish you would just STFU hypocrite.

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        • Bob, you don’t understand jack squat. You “Not See” traitors are now allowing financial institutions to close accounts because of political discrimination. We can’t have that here and what that bank in FL is doing to Trump is an act of war. Once your boy Biden started calling for healing and unity we all knew it would be nothing more than another Democratic lie. Bob, you scumbags will reap what you sow and it’s coming soon. You can’t see it because you’re a “Not See”. However, its coming and I’m sure you will all be sorry for what you’re doing. America First and China Last…..traitors!

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    • First of all Bob, the police were only able to apprehend 8 of the RIOTERS. That doesn’t mean they got them all. Since the rioters are part of the Democratic TREASON Machine, authorities won’t pursue them like they did those at the Capitol. Now, I warned you Democratic Traitors Against America that you created a MONSTER with these terrorist groups and that monsters can’t be controlled. Now, that you morons have gotten your way and crowned an illegitimate and unelected child toucher to the Presidency the riots are STILL continuing. Let’s be honest, BLM rioted in New York on Jan. 19th and now ANTIFA is TILL rioting. This is all part of the Democratic plan to eventually instill martial law and it looks like Portland will probably be the first place to do it….

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  72. The Spirit of 1776
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/the-spirit-of-1776/

    “Trump’s ‘1776 Commission’ tried to rewrite U.S. history. Biden had other ideas.”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-1776-commission-tried-rewrite-u-s-history-biden-ncna1255086

    President Biden (Uniter-in-Chief) signed an executive order to disband Trump’s 1776 Commission and its report was removed from the White House website.

    Denial doesn’t work. We must accept our history, both the good and the bad. We need to make amends for our failures and move forward to fulfill America’s destiny.

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    • You guys really are idiots. I don’t make amends for things that happened 300, 200, 100 or even 50 years ago. I wasn’t alive and couldn’t make amends for those who are dead. Why would I? Why would I make amends for the actions of others? Are you brain dead? There will be no reparations for those who were not subject to what the reparations are meant to repair. Slavery was a bad thing, but to tell every black person in 2021 that they have suffered harm from something that hasn’t existed since 1865 is not just wrong, it’s stupid. No one denies that slavery happened. No one denies that slavery was widespread in Colonial America, however, it was occurring in other places too. You morons are leaving out one other very important fact and that is that alot of those slaves that came from Africa were sold by the black’s own kings and chieftains into slavery in the first place. There hasn’t been a slave in America since 1865 and the only people that wish to keep using it as a tool of hatred and division are the Democratic Traitors Against America….

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    • Since we are on the topic of history please take time to read this

      61 Years ago !!!!
      ?This is how to boil a frog. Put a frog into a pot of hot water and the frog jumps out.??Put a frog into a pot of cold water and the frog stays there as you slowly turn up the heat until the frog slowly accepts the temperature and gets cooked.??Sixty years ago people said it will NEVER happen  here??Just think back on what we have personally witnessed since 1959. Old Niki told it like what all of us have witnessed.??WAKE UP AMERICA!!!??Khrushchev’s Message 61 years ago :??THIS WAS HIS ENTIRE QUOTE:  A sobering reminder.  Almost exactly sixty years ago since Russia’s Khrushchev delivered his message. Do you remember September 29, 1959???THIS WAS HIS ENTIRE QUOTE:?”Your children’s children will live under communism, You Americans are so gullible.  No, you won’t accept communism outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism.  We will not have to fight you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands.”  “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”??Do you remember what Russia’s Khrushchev said in 1959???Remember, socialism leads to Communism. So,how do you create a Socialistic State???There are 8 levels of control; read the following recipe:??1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people.??2) Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.??3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.??4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.??5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.??6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.??7) Religion – Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what is best for the people.??8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor. Hopefully the President and the squad read this too!

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          • I already checked out “Saul Alinsky” when I first read OYE comment earlier today and couldn’t verify it. I posted the links to a couple of fact checkers right after you last post. FYI: My comment with links automatically goes to “Awaiting Moderation”, so there might be a delay before it gets posted.

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          • Why the hell would anybody believe Snopes? Alinsky wrote a book on it you dumb moron. In that book he outlined the 8 levels of control that would bring a society to a Communist regime. To deny this is just plain dumb. Sure, Alinsky probably got some of his ideas from Stalin and Lennon, but he penned it and you’re political gods were into it. Just STFU and realize that WE THE PEOPLE don’t pay attention to idiots like Snopes. Bob, you Democratic Traitors can not re-write history and you have proven time and time again that you are nothing but a “Not See” moron…

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          • No, I don’t because both are unbelievable. No matter how many times you guys repeat the lie, it will never be the truth.

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          • No surprise , You’re usually ‘all about’ denying facts. Unfortunately, you wouldn’t know the truth if it bit your nose off.

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          • Really? I see the problem as lying Democratic Traitors trying to make up false facts and pass them off as the truth. Whether you like it or don’t like it, Alinsky put the 8 levels of control to pen in his book. Neither Stalin or Lenin put it in writing even though Alinsky conceived the 8 levels of control from the actions of those men. Hell, he could’ve gotten some of it from Hitler as well. However, Alinsky is the man who put it all together in print and you Democrats are following them to the letter. That’s what happens when you become “Not See”s, you just can’t help but “Not See” the truth…

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          • Obviously, you’re confused. Alinsky did not originate the “8 Levels of Control Needed To Bring About A Socialist State. Nor did he put it “…all together in print…” He wrote the “12 Rules of Power” popularly known as the “12 Rules For Radicals”.

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          • You are a complete idiot. The 8 levels of control are part of the 12 rules for radicals. They are all in his book. In hindsight, does it matter? What really matters is that you “not see” scum are trying to do everything outlined in his book. You’re also advocating most of “Mein Kampf”. Bob, you are NOT an American. You are a Communist traitor and no one should listen to what you have to say. When you Democratic morons completely destroy this country will you be happy that we will all become slaves of the government? This includes YOUR family as well. WTF is wrong with you?

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          • SoulCrusher, the more pertinent and pressing question is — WHAT is WRONG WITH YOU?? Between your usual T&T(Traders & Treason) tirades and your comments about “family”, it’s obvious that you have lost it and most likely require some psychiatric counseling. All that hate wrapped up inside your head is destroying you. I sincerely hope you find the help that you desperately need.

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          • Bob, you’re a moron. You couldn’t get under my skin even if you were a ringworm. You just have absolutely no credibility, reasoning or understanding. The only one of us who needs help is the moron pushing the Democratic Treason on this website…That would be you.

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          • SoulCrusher, there you go again with T&T and moron stuff. Sadly, I don’t believe you have much skin to get under. You a pretty cold and callous guy.

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    • OYE, Please! I’m not trying to be cute or witty. I just want to know who came up with the 8 points. If you don’t,, a simple ‘I don’t know will suffice. Thank you!

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    • Don’t listen to or even debate anything with Bob. All he is trying to get you to do is examine things that don’t matter. What matters is that he and the traitors he represents are all pushing a platform of treason. It doesn’t matter who came up with anything. All that matters is that Bob and the Democratic Party are acting like “Not See”s and/or Communists and are trying to destroy what is left of the Republic.

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      • From what I’ve been able to find out it seems the “8 Levels of Control” were authored in 1966 by Columbia University professors, Richard Cloward & Frances Fox Piven, appearing in an article for the “Nation Magazine. So far, I haven’t been able to find the original article online.

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      • SoulCrusher, apparently you don’t give OYE much credit. He is a smart guy, capable of deciding on his own what to listen to or debate. I’m sure the last place he wants to go is down the SoulCrusher Rabbit Hole.

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        • Let’s get it straight. It doesn’t matter who came up with it. Be it Alinsky or those two professors. They got their ideas from Stalin, Lenin and Hitler. That’s just the way it is…However, Alinsky put it in his book and the 8 levels of control are all included in the 12 rules for radicals.

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          • SoulCrusher, instead of chirping in with your usual misinformation & insults, when I first asked OYE the question a couple days back, you would have done better to not reply at all.

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          • It doesn’t matter. The 8 levels of control and the 12 rules for radicals are all created by Stalin, Lenin and Hitler. It should shock none of us that these are the principles of the Democratic “Not See” Party and the terrorist groups you guys support and fund. However, Alinsky penned it in his book and you can’t find the article about the two professors. You’re a moron and a traitor…

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          • SoulCrusher, your comment is pretty a rehash of your 9:31PM comment from yesterday. You know your normal stuff, Stalin Lenin, Hitler. I’ve noticed you have an obsession with getting the last word. Especially, when you know – YOU’RE WRONG! Try repeating over & over to yourself IT DOES MATTER.

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          • That’s because the truth is always repeatable while the Democratic lies of YOUR “Not See” movement are nothing but a fiction. I’m not wrong, Alinsky put in his book and your take on a couple of professors is wrong. Try repeating this, “Joe Biden is NOT the President. The Democratic Party staged an illegal and unconstitutional election to undermine the will of the people. Joe Biden is a child touching, hair sniffing, Chinese loving traitor”. Keep repeating that until it sinks in and for God’s sake STOP telling little boys that they are really little girls so the field hockey teams don’t have to start wearing jock straps and cups. Bob, you’re a complete Democratic moron…

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  74. “Biden must act to save Navalny’s life — and hopes of freedom in Russia”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/23/biden-must-act-save-navalnys-life-hopes-freedom-russia/

    Can you imagine having the guts to go back into the lion’s den after being poisoned with nerve gas. It’s beyond amazing. He could become a real game-changer in terms of Russian politics.

    “The Biden administration must do what it can to protect Navalny’s life — and the flickering hopes of freedom in Russia.”

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    • Navalny isn’t our problem. If he was so concerned for his own safety he would’ve never went back to Russia. WE THE PEOPLE don’t care about Russian Politics and that is because Russia isn’t our Country. If you care so much about Russia while our own people are under attack by China and the Democratic Party then you are not on the same page as the rest of us. We don’t care about Russia. End of story….Why don’t you care about our people you stinking traitor!?!?!

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      • Bob I know we have differed on many things. In fairness I too am in favor of sanctions against Putin. They should be implemented. As I said before Putin is just an annoying blowhard and a punk. Everyone should hopefully be aware that China is a real threat technologically, economically, and militarily. If President Biden and his Democratic puppet masters truly cared about the long term stability of our country and if they had a set of stones they would stand tough against China. I have genuine concerns and suspicions why Mr. Biden continues to give China a pass and to keep them out of the cross hairs of an investigative media outlet. There is an old saying…..” if yo have nothing to hide, hide nothing” Ps. For the record I played club ice hockey for over 35 years. Not to mess with you but I am a Penguins fan. As a kid I was a Baltimore Clippers fan when they played in the old AHL

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        • OYE, I share your concern about China. What they are doing to the Uighurs is nothing short of genocide. I hope the Biden administration comes down hard, very hard, on them. Also, we level the economic playing field. They are a serious threat to our country.

          Wow! That is so neat that you played ice hockey. The Penguins are my nemesis. They seem to beat my boys more times than not.

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    • Really? From the minute Trump was sworn into office the Democratic Treason Machine went into a full scale blitz of misinformation based upon hatred and now you guys want to preach unity after dividing the Country for FOUR long years. The only thing I can say is if stupid could fly, you’d be a jet….

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    • Fox has already betrayed the American people. Now, only select Patriots that still remain on Fox are watched by REAL Americans. Tucker Carlson is a perfect example of this. However, NewsMax has raised to number 4 in ratings and OAN is rising rapidly. The age of CNN and MSNBC will soon be over and it is the result of Democratic Treason being pushed on the public. Nobody believes the 2020 election results and nobody thinks Biden is a legitimate President. For that matter, nobody believes Biden is competent. The only question that remains is when id Kamala Harris going to go for the Presidential power grab she desires and she will do it because she knows that even with the Democratic Voter Fraud machine working overtime, she would never be able to gain enough support to win a National Election. She is literally hated by the American People for being the Democratic “Not See” scum that she is…

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  81. It never stops. You had people demonstrating in Tacoma Washington for reasons that they might not even know. People start operating their vehicles in a willful and reckless manner endangering “protesters “ and others in the area. The police are notified and respond. One of the police vehicles is quickly surrounded by unruly demonstrators blocking its ability to move. People begin beating and kicking at the vehicles in a very aggressive manner. One of the police vehicles had at least one window broken out. The operator of one of the police vehicles attempted to retreat to a safer area by first backing up and then reportedly driving through the crowd in an attempt to separate him/herself from the threat. While doing so striking at least two “protesters “ and running over another. In what I consider an act of political appeasement the incident was immediately labeled an “attempted application of deadly force” absent of a thorough investigation. I don’t know the race of those struck by the police vehicles but that would certainly be another point for the liberal MSN to have a field day with the associated divisive innuendos they frequently employ. I am at a loss as to the mindset of these “protesters “. They seem to feel that they are entitled to act and behave in any manner they wish with no associated consequences. If they assault police and the police respond per training guidelines (if allowed) it is police brutality, racism or fascism. Liberals have pushed a large snowball down the hill which may not be able to be stopped. To be honest, I am an older man with not an abundance of my life left. If people, with limited exposure to the real world want to be liberal that’s ok, but the world they are creating for my grandchildren’s well being and their quality of life really concerns me.

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    • When does firebombing, attacking, doxing and the of threatening the lives of police become classified as insurrectionist?

      I would like to see the full weight of resources that the fbi used on the capital protestors used on these people………

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    • Exactly, yet the Democratic Traitors Against America only see the Capitol incident as a riot. It was OK for ANTIFA and BLM to riot, loot innocent businesses and burn down both businesses and homes. What do we call a group of people who use violence against innocent businesses and people to effect a governmental or societal change? We call them TERRORISTS. There is a big difference between the DC Capitol riot and the BLM/ANTIFA riots and that difference is what separates people from being pissed off Americans or Domestic Terrorists….

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    • This is the trial of the century. This impeachment hearing is the most important thing that has ever happened in our country’s modern day history. The impacts that this holds are great.

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      • Note: I attempted to post the below described video on this site but experienced unknown technical difficulties. I strongly urge everyone to locate the video, if possible, and see what Mrs. Pelosi and other Democrats are trying to do. Unbelievable! The Democrats are so focussed on getting former President Trump one last time that they could let this multi-trillion aid package go through to some of the worst and most dangerous countries in the world. ……….
        Michigan Congressman Bill Huizenga, a Democrat, made a recent video and every American should take a few minutes to listen and absorb what he is saying. This is another one of those unbelievable elements being pushed by Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic majority.

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          • I apologize for the error regarding the Congressman’s party affiliation. I must admit that the sending source of the information is a personal friend, Physician, as well as a police officer (interesting ensemble) I read the passage prior to viewing the video which showed the Congressman standing outside of Congress. The passage indicated he was a Democrat. Possibly The video invoked pent up political frustrations in me from the Obama era. If it it has merit I question why we would ever consider paying any amount of money to countries that are not our friends. Obama gave incredible sums of money to countries such as Iran and Pakistan. Even after receiving these large sums of money they found a way to stick it up our ass. Obama’s administration on more than one occasion described it as “Exercising Goodwill”. I call it paying a ransom. I laugh when I see the MSM say that President Biden is playing hardball with Putin. In the grand scheme of things Putin is just an annoying punk. An American President who had a real set would set China straight from jump street. Maybe our newly elected President has personal reasons, if you know what I mean, to give China a pass.

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          • OYE, that’s the kind of personal friend I need. One that covers all the bases. Consoles me when I’m down in the dumps, fixes me up when I’m sick and protects me from robbers & bad guys. How did you get so lucky?

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      • Mr., Mrs., Miss, Ms. Bob
        Sir/Ma’am
        Your thoughts and statements on the importance of the impeachment trial are provocative. Though you are absolutely correct on the importance, for reasons you may not have considered. Authority for government in these United States comes from the people. Government is formed by that authority by the people, for the people. Those same people are then governed by their consent. It appears today that people are withdrawing their authority for government, and their consent to be governed. Please review the concept of the Black Lives Matter movement, the situation in Wisconsin where the state capital was stormed, the protests in Seattle and Portland and various other municipalities around the country. Also review the situation in the U.S. Capital. Review also the international situation in various other countries. It would appear that people are not satisfied with their governments. While I do not agree with the violence of the various protests, I am reminded a very famous quote, “War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means.” Carl von Clausewitz, On War. (Please feel free to fact check the source and the quote). From my perspective the impeachment is about authority for government. When the Government gives itself authority, a central, totalitarian government is formed. It may be communist, or socialist or some other designation it is however no longer accountable to the people. When does the will of the people to withdraw their authority to government and their consent to be governed become an insurrection? Former President Trump declared that he was going to drain the swamp, and in doing so return authority for government back to the people. He failed to understand how forcefully that all of those living comfortably in the swamp would resist. We will see how this plays out. I am sure that there are others who will offer their insight, perhaps you will too. No doubt it will be interesting. The subject is very important.
        THNX
        MALLAMO

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  86. “Rand Paul calls Trump impeachment trial ‘dead on arrival’ after 45 GOP senators vote against it”
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-calls-trump-impeachment-trial-dead-on-arrival-after-45-gop-senators-vote-against-it

    I hope all the Senators can manage to keep an open mind. Listen to the evidence as presented and render an impartial verdict. During the Impeachment Trial the Senators need to remember it is their Constitutional responsibility to sit as jurors, not politicians.

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  89. I just saw Matt Gaetz, apologist, cheerleader & supporter of the Despicable One (Marjorie Taylor Greene) on the TV. It occurred to me that he would make a perfect “Dracula”. All he needs are fangs and a black cape.

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  90. “Facebook’s ‘Supreme Court’ taking comments on Trump’s suspension”
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/29/facebook-public-comments-trump-suspension-463754

    I didn’t realize that Facebook had a board like this which could override content decisions by CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his executives. The Board is taking public comments until Feb 8 and their final decision will probably come in April.

    You have until Feb 8 to voice your opinion using an online forum.

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    • Before I go on my rant I would like to acknowledge that I am no where near the smartest guy in the world. I do think I am of reasonable intelligence and that my many life experiences have made me somewhat “worldly”. Probably one of the top things in life that annoys me is when person(s) attempt to play myself and others as punks. Some examples are but are not limited to “ Hillary Clinton did not break the law she just exercised extreme carelessness “ or “Democrats want healing and unity” or “there was no evidence of corruption during this last Presidential election process,” or “ the demonstration by the liberal protestors and BLM were mostly peaceful and nonviolent”. No one enjoys when someone pisses in their face and then are told it was rain. Now we are being told that Facebook has a review board or “supreme court” which has the authority to override the decisions of CEO Zuckerberg. Sorry but I call BS. There is a very strong possibility that he and his organization have knowingly violated first amendment rights of the US Constitution. They got called on it and now they wanted to put on this dog and pony show in an attempt to convince people that their primary interests are to be fair, equitable, and Constitutional. They knew then and they know what they were doing. I have little if any respect for Mr. Zuckerberg or Facebook but I would like to have them be mature enough to say “yea we did it because we could” instead of jerking people around with this facade. Hopefully this will one day end up where it belongs. In the Supreme Court. I think in a fair world where integrity still exists Mr. Zuckerberg will appropriately get caught speeding and hopefully will have to pay the price.

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      • OYE, you’re probably right. One day it will end up in the Supreme Court. However, that day might be a ways off. The social media issue is not so much about freedom of speech. It’s more about freedom of information. The task ahead of us is can we reasonably manage the ‘information’ without trampling on our freedom of speech? We’re just starting to come to grips with that challenge.
         
        My guess right now is that the Supreme Court would be reluctant to render broad, game-changer type decisions in this matter. Chief Justice Roberts doesn’t want his court in the middle of this situation just yet. I believe he would prefer to see what the businesses themselves, and the other two branches of government can come up with before the Supreme Court weighs in too heavily.
         
        We’ll just have to be patient and hope the social media companies do a better job of regulating themselves. Also, Congress needs to come up with reasonable laws to help the situation. It’s going to take a while. We have to be patient and work on it.

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        • The only law that needs to be followed is the 1st Amendment. This DOES apply to us all and it applies to those media companies whom are allowing publishing by individuals of one political party, while censoring the other. You can say a private corporation can do what it wants, but once we’ve crossed the threshold into the limiting of free speech being published on the internet by a company that specializes in harvesting the speech and data of it’s users, the 1st Amendment applies and the company should be regulated to not allow censors to use political bias.

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    • Today, I was watching Republican Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, on TV. He was asked about Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene (The Despicable One). He said the people of her district voted for her and that should mean a lot and went on to say “I would not vote for her”

      I’m sure the majority of the voters in her district got what they expected when they elected her. Since expulsion or even censure is not likely, the best course of action would be to keep a close eye on her to ensure she not packing.

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  93. The Bel Air/Abingdon area seems to be experiencing a serious mail delay problem. For example I pay some of my bills using Bank of America Bill Payer service. In December the Bank mailed out a paper check on 12/24/2020 with expected delivery of 12/31/2020. The payee did not receive the check until 1/15/2021.

    In January my bank sent out a paper check on 1/22/2021 with expected delivery of 1/28/21. The payee did not receive the check until 2/2/2021.

    “Calls Mount For President Biden To Shake Up Postal Service’s Leadership”
    https://www.npr.org/2021/01/29/961667755/calls-mount-for-president-biden-to-shake-up-postal-services-leadership

    Please Mr. President, do whatever is necessary to get rid of DeJoy. The Postal service has gone down the drain since he became Post Master General.

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      • I have mixed emotions on this. For one, I feel that police are not a necessary component of the school curriculum. However, the policy was enacted because of school shootings. People want their kids safe but the mere presence of a cop in the schools can be un nerving. I do not believe that police should be in schools but I don’t believe in leaving kids unprotected from psychotic nut farmers. In my day, this wasn’t an issue because people weren’t shooting up schools and we didn’t bring guns or knives to school other than maybe a pocket knife. Even a pocket knife was frowned on. This is a problem that should not be a problem. When did we go so wrong that we have to worry about kids in the schools being murdered? It’s sad…

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    • There is a price for Freedom and if that price is the danger of catching COVID while attending church, then so be it. Maybe those whom are older or have health conditions should stay at home, but freedom is what allows us to choose. I’ve applauded Kagan’s decisions in the past regarding privacy in the home, but I must disagree with her on this issue. Taking our freedom in the name of safety is not necessary. Why did we ever quarantine healthy people to begin with? Besides, I thought if we were wearing masks, practiced social distancing and limited the number of people who could attend services was already proclaimed enough…if we use Kagan’s current opinion then why are grocery stores and Walmart still open? You can’t make the cure worse than the disease and we can’t keep people from living their lives. Policy based on fear of living can only lead to the end of freedom. Is that what we want?

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  97. Fox News is at it again. The following is the headline for their link:

    “Antifa members threaten to ‘burn’ down DC during Black Lives Matter march”

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-members-threatens-to-burn-down-dc-during-black-lives-matter-march

    What’s interesting is that their link has a picture/video of Portland on Jan 1 2021, which has nothing to do with what happened today in DC. Rupert and his hacks are desperate to deflect attention away from the violence of the Radical Right.

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      • I agree that Fox News has been changed. Its reporters have been reeled in and they are no longer allowed to speak as freely as before. The news stories are also being toned down and any allegations of voter fraud are being dismissed as “unproven”. Leading me to the Mike Lindell Election Machine errors segment now being played on OAN. There was without a shadow of a doubt, widespread Dominion Voter Machine errors in Michigan. It is VERY bad as votes were changed from Trump to Biden on a massive scale. The evidence is right there and is being handled in local courts in Michigan. Look, the Democrats should be ashamed of their actions in Michigan and in my opinion these actions are criminal. Bob, you can say “there is no evidence” all you want, but what we are witnessing is a NATIONWIDE COVERUP of intentional voter fraud, both electronically and manually. Everyone should watch the video and the results will disturb you. In anticipation of Bob coming up with some stupid comment about this, “Hey Bob, STFU and watch the video”.

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        • The Mike Lindell (Pillow Talk Clown) film promoted by OAN titled, “Absolute Proof” is ” Absolute Hogwash”. It is filled with nothing but lies and unfounded conspiracy b.s. Lindell’s crazy theories are nothing but nonsense and a complete waste of time. OAN was smart enough to run a lengthy disclaimer saying the film was not the product of OAN reporting and was being presented as opinion.

          Also, “YouTube took down “Absolute Proof” on Friday, saying it violated the company’s presidential election integrity policy, which prohibits false claims that widespread fraud, errors or glitches changed the outcome of the vote.”

          There was no widespread voter fraud in Michigan. See below AP Fact Check:
          https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9847904839

          To everyone — Facts & Truth Matter! Don’t allow yourself to be fooled by unfounded conspiracy theories!

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          • OAN’s disclaimer was to prevent lawsuit. They don’t want to end up in a place where they can be controlled like Fox News, regarding a lawsuit which Fox is currently litigating right now. OAN simply doesn’t have the money Fox has. The information contained within the video is accurate a shows how the Dominion Voting Machines were rigged throwing votes into Biden’s tally and stealing from Trump’s. The litigation in Michigan is still underway and you Democratic buffoons have been caught. There is nothing false about the allegations as the information comes from the actual evidence the court is weighing in as we speak. Bob, when are you going to give up YOUR treason against our Country?

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          • Don’t let yourself be misled. Dominion Voting Machines were NOT RIGGED. There was no significant voter fraud in the Election. Remember, those that cannot accept the TRUTH are a desperate bunch.

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          • Just for the record, the APNews is part of the State run Media Machine. Bob, you and your kind are disgusting criminals and putting the Democratic “Not See” Party in control of our Country means that we are now being controlled by China. Bob, just shut up…

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          • Hey Little Man, FYI – If I don’t mention you directly my replies are usually meant for everyone else. I fully realize that TRUTH & FACTS are not YOUR cup of tea. Your comfort zone is LIES & CONSPIRACIES.

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          • I don’t care who your response is for. I owe it to the everyone and give them the truth instead of YOUR Democratic propaganda. There is no conspiracy that election fraud occurred all across the Country and if the election was just as corrupt all across the nation as it was in Michigan, then the election was not only stolen by the Democratic Traitors Against America, it was also stolen by our foreign enemies your scumbags represent. Bob, you are a disgrace to all humanity…

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          • Hey Little Man, Bingo! I must be getting to you yet again. Usually I’m just a disgrace to our country. Now you think I’m a disgrace to “all humanity” I feel much better now that I know I’m really getting to you.

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          • No. I just find it completely disgusting for any person claiming to be an American that actual approves of the way this election was stolen. Since the theft of this election did nothing but aid our enemies and harm our freedoms, which the rest of the world looks at us with envy, we must conclude that people like you are a disgrace to all humanity. After all, you are supporting the “Not See” Party. There is no difference between the “Not See”‘s of Germany and you guys, except for your propaganda machine use to call what you’re doing “Information Control” and you guys call it “Fact Checking”….

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          • Hey Little Man, you’ll feel much better if you just wave the white flag and scurry on off with you tail between your legs.

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          • No can do. I don’t support “Not See” traitors and I don’t back down from little bitches like you.

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          • There you go. More “Information Control” and that is a typical “Not See” tactic you guys call “Fact Checking”. Who fact checks your fact checkers? The voter fraud in Michigan was rampant and most of it occurred in the actual machines. You Democratic Traitors will never get away with it again.

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          • Little Man, I’m still waiting for something, anything that actually supports your ridiculous views.

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          • The Lindell Video is all the proof anyone needs. The evidence is outlined in the video and it is pending in County Courts as we speak. We will see where this leads and if that one County found that much error in the voting machine counts then it was massive fraud in all of Michigan. Boob, your just so overcome with treason that you can’t see the evidence when it is placed right on the damn TV. Watch the damn video and understand that the County’s hand recount exposed you and your traitor Party as the cheats that you are. Until you watch it, you need to shut your mouth and no your role….traitor.

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          • No one believes anything the Main Stream Media reports. The Michigan elections were manipulated by foreign reporting agencies using the Dominion Voting Machines and the Democrats knew and took part in it. The voting count errors discovered in the one Michigan County is incredible. Bob and the rest of the Democratic Traitors Against America don’t want you to know what really happened and they don’t want anyone questioning their narrative of fraud, war and treason. WE THE PEOPLE have had enough. The litigation is still in the Courts on a County level and Bob wants you to believe this is a farce. The election was stolen by the Democrats using foreign reporting agencies who did manipulate the vote totals in favor of Biden. Just watch the video and don’t listen to anything Bob has to say because he is a traitor against our Country.

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    • BLM has acted as a domestic terrorist organization during most of 2020 and will continue this in the future. The audacity that BLM has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize after all the incredible violence and destruction perpetrated by this terrorist organization is incredible. Shame on Fox for whatever, but if you want the American people to believe BLM is a peaceful protest organization then you will be left wanting. Nobody believe s that BLM is peaceful and that goes ten fold in regards to ANTIFA. You all seem to think that one act in WASHINGTON D.C. is far worse than a YEAR of terrorism being displayed in many States through out this nation and that is just untrue. In one act the Democratic Traitors Against America want to proclaim everyone involved an insurgent and a terrorist, but wants BLM and ANTIFA classified as peaceful protesters. This is ridiculous. I also want to say the weaponization of the DOJ and Financial Institutions against the Capitol protesters is reprehensible and an act of war against the American people. The government has no authority ordained to war against the people. That is all…

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  99. You got love it. The Super Bowl features entertainer “Weekend “ during halftime. The guy has an arrest for assaulting police. He pleaded no contest which is basically the same as a guilty plea. What a great role model. Check out some of his interviews. Jeep and Bruce Springsteen didn’t make many points tonight either. How about this Einstein, keep the politics out of the Super Bowl. Way to go Brady! Way to go Bucs!

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    • Fuck the National Fellons League. Bunch of whining kneeling bitches. Got other stuff to do on Sundays like Bob’s wife. I do allow her to take a knee or two(for different reasons).

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    • Bob (Another Bob), Liberal or otherwise if he took part in the riot then he should indited. BTW, “Politico” is my favorite sites – both factual and balanced in terms of their opinion pieces.

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      • But we don’t indict BLM and ANTIFA rioters who actually caused harm to innocent people and businesses all across the nation. Interesting. VERY interesting. It’s OK for people to riot under the false pretense and to further anarchy, but people can’t riot when an election is stolen by the use of mass voter fraud. The people can’t riot when their votes are changed electronically or imposters mailed in a ballot that the actual voter never requested. When you undermine the will of the people thru false elections you deserve a riot. You need to really think about what you’re saying. Furthermore, they are indicting people who didn’t take part in the actual riot and were there peacefully protesting. Not all of that crown was rioters. It is my opinion the Democratic Traitors Against America have ordered the DOJ to indict peaceful protesters and alot of them are being identified just because they were in DC and used a debit card. That’s not proof of anything and this is nothing but political persecution. Quite frankly, your call to indict the Capitol rioters and protesters, but not the BLM and ANTIFA terrorists makes you nothing but a political terrorist and an enemy of WE THE PEOPLE.

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  104. “Schumer, McConnell reach deal on Trump impeachment trial”
    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/537876-schumer-mcconnell-reach-deal-on-trump-impeachment-trial

    Apparently if both sides agree to not call witnesses the Impeachment could be over in about a week. To not call witnesses just to speed up the process seems like a mistake to me. Like I’ve said before witnesses are an integral part of a trial. If it takes longer to have witnesses so be it.

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      • What trial? This is an unconstitutional political display of madness that Congress, nor the Senate, has the authority to carry out. You can affirm in the delusion that this Administrative Action is a trial, but WE THE PEOPLE all know that this is nothing but political theater. Whatever the outcome, whatever penalties brought forth and whatever theatrical tirade made by this kangaroo court will always be remembered as an act of fraud, war and treason by WE THE PEOPLE of these United States.

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        • I agree with SoulCrusher on this one. This really isn’t anything more than gross political retribution not justice or fairness. Donald Trump is no longer President. You won. Why do Democrats continue to want to bury this man. Where is “unity and healing” BS? I have seen no recorded evidence that anyone was directed by President Trump to storm the Capital. None! Did some fanatical followers act inappropriately? Yes, but it was not at the President’s direction. I am not going to get in to the other shit stirrers that participated. Maxine Waters is on tape specifically targeting political figures associated with President Trump to include suggestions of threats, harassment, and violence directed at anyone associated with his administration. Why did she not have impeachment proceedings brought up against her? Most reasonable people have a pretty good suspicion why she got a pass. Again, I personally feel that the Democrats say they are a party that supports healing and unity but their motives are clear by continuing this impeachment effort. This is a message to over 74 million voters that made an informed personal decision to support President Trump. It has nothing to do with true justice. It is an effort to admonish, chastise, and berate anyone, who in their minds, had the audacity to support President Trump, Unity and healing is not even being considered.

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          • OYE, during the past month or so you have mentioned Maxine Walters in several posts. When you started talking about her in early January you said, “she openly called for her to constituents to harass any Trump supporter”. In your most recent post, you included “…violence directed at anyone associated with his administration” in your description of her remarks.

            Below is a link to a video of her comments made in Jun 2018. Is this the tape/video that you reference today in your post? If not, can you please provide a link? Thanks
            https://youtu.be/-1Fu3g1MGHY

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          • Bob there you go again and excuse me for being graphic and profane. Respectfully sir, if someone is going to try to jerk me off I would prefer it to be a large breasted blond in her twenties and not an elderly man who has no life other than walking and aggravating people on the Dagger. You know exactly what point I was making about this taxpayers money wasting impeachment sham. End of my response. Good evening.

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          • OYE, Again my question is very simple. Is the tape/video link I provided what you referred to in your post? A simple yes or no would suffice. Or, if you don’t know, just say I don’t know Why are you so paranoid? Maybe it’s not really the questions that bother you maybe it the answers that you have a difficult time accepting.

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          • Well, WTF do you call getting a crowd together, tell them they’re not welcome and push back? That is calls to incite mob violence. Furthermore, she’s calling on them to do it ANYWHERE you see a Trump official. She’s basically telling her “mob” to surround Federal officials with a crowd, verbally harass Federal officials and push them anywhere you see them. That’s assault moron…and yes I answered a question of yours not directed toward me and yes I will continue to do so in order to combat your Democratic TREASON. This is a public forum, moron. Also, WTF do you call the way that “mob” attacked Rand Paul and his wife? If I remember correctly, those were BLM idiots doing that against a man who does not condone systemic racism, unlike Biden who created it. Boob, you got some real shit for brains….

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          • YES, it is the video, moron. It is clearly much more than any incitement you are accusing Trump of.

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          • If you were 1/10 as smart as you think you are, you might be able to figure it out. Obviously, you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you, Little Man?

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          • Figure out what? There is nothing to figure out except you’re a moron spreading the propaganda of the Democratic Traitors of America. So, you’re a “Not See” Party member and an enemy against WE THE PEOPLE of these United States. I don’t side with TRAITORS, scumbag….

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          • I decided to give you a new name. From this day forth I will address you as,:

            “LittleMan (aka TheClown – TheDesperateOne). How’s that work for you?

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          • You can BOB and weave all you want peter puffer, but we all know what you’re real motivation is…

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          • C’mon, you know you want to play with the chaps. C’mon and place your edits at whatever time you want, but you can’t script shit better than this….Bob.

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          • Blinding Lights
            Song by The Weeknd
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            Yeah
            I’ve been tryin’ to call
            I’ve been on my own for long enough
            Maybe you can show me how to love, maybe
            I’m going through withdrawals
            You don’t even have to do too much
            You can turn me on with just a touch, baby
            I look around and
            Sin City’s cold and empty (oh)
            No one’s around to judge me (oh)
            I can’t see clearly when you’re gone
            And I said, ooh, I’m blinded by the lights
            No, I can’t sleep until I feel your touch
            I said, ooh, I’m drowning in the night
            Oh, when I’m like this, you’re the one I trust
            (Hey, hey, hey)
            I’m running out of time
            ‘Cause I can see the sun light up the sky
            So I hit the road in overdrive, baby, oh
            The city’s cold and empty (oh)
            No one’s around to judge me (oh)
            I can’t see clearly when you’re gone
            And I said, ooh, I’m blinded by the lights… More

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          • S.O.B.
            Song by Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats
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            I’m gonna need someone to help me
            I’m gonna need somebody’s hand
            I’m gonna need someone to hold me down
            I’m gonna need someone to care
            I’m gonna writhe and shake my body
            I’ll start pulling out my hair
            I’m going to cover myself with
            The ashes of you and nobody’s gonna give a damn
            Son of a bitch
            Give me a drink
            One more night
            This can’t be me
            Son of a bitch
            If I can’t get clean
            I’m gonna drink my life away
            Oh oh
            Oh oh
            Oh oh oh oh oh
            Oh oh
            Oh oh
            Oh oh oh oh oh
            Now for seventeen years I’ve been throwing them back
            Seventeen more will bury me
            Can somebody please just tie me down
            Or somebody give me a goddamn drink
            Son of a bitch
            Give me a drink
            One more night
            This can’t be me
            Son of a bitch
            If I can’t get clean
            I’m gonna drink my life away
            Mhm, mhm
            Mhm, mhm, mhm, mhm
            Mhm, mhm
            Mhm,… More

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          • Bob, you’re time stamps are very telling. I’ll beat you’re ass if I ever meet you, just for being a bitch.

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          • Did you know that the knuckle from the middle finger will knock you out faster than nitrous oxide? Seriously….

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          • If you’re not an editor then you’re a predator…..170 proof shots…twice distilled….my,my,my….my stupid libtard girl broke up with me for telling her she’s a fuktard. Imagine that.

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          • You’re so blatant it isn’t even funny. So, seriously, what is you’re recommendation for the future? Just lie down and become a slave to the government? You really need to give up your treason.

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          • You are such an asshole. It’s funny tho. I have new respect for you. In regards to the time stamps. Not your ideology…

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          • I tell you what, You’ve gained some respect. I’ll leave it at that. The time stamps don’t lie….very impressive. I almost thought I was in the matric there for a minute…

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          • So, just out of curiosity, why push the line your currently pushing? I mean, are you really that impressed with the beginning of the end?

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          • Remember, “This is not the end. It’s not even the beginning of the end. It’s the end of the beginning”

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          • Sleepy? No. I’ll get all the sleep I need when I’m dead. Open 7 days a week, we never sleep.

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          • I’m sure the best is yet to come in a time stamp on a different date. We’ve ruined this thread.

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          • That is one hell of a delay. Unbelievable. Blatant. Down right rude. I like it. Much respect…

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  105. Trump is still a threat to the swamp creatures and they all know it.

    Oh and for those trashing on teachers, you need to be tbagged for your ass backwards thought process.

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  107. Jamie Raskin said, 83 times today, “black…black…black…black…”. He realy misses the good olé Jim Crow days. Misses something to define himself with.

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  108. Raskin…two time Impeachment Looser! Trump will use the examples of how SHAKEN the DEEP STATE was at truth to power..as shown in this “kiddie trial”. Can we recall Raskin? He is a disgrace!

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        • Thanks Jacktard, I just deleted all the news apps and canceled my cable subscription. Just come here for breaking news from Bob. Did you get some good rest area action last night???

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        • Did anyone ever think that Trump wouldn’t be acquitted? We were ALL certain of this before it even started and the Democrats desperate attempts of editing video and distributing “Fake News” to the Country during this charade, didn’t change the minds of anyone but 2 moronic Senators that betrayed their party. The election was rigged. It was illegally and unconstitutionally conducted. When you do something like this, which normally only occurs in 3rd world Countries, you will get a riot. However, people were amassing at the Capitol as early as 10:34 am on that day and the Capitol was breached before Trump was even done his speech. The FBI, the Capitol Police and the DC Police were all well aware of this. Trump even offered 10,000 troops from the National Guard days before this happened because of this intelligence and those in charge refused the assistance. The impeachment was nothing but another Democratic sham and was based on the lies of the Democratic Party, pushed by the State run media of the Democratic Party. Maybe, if the Democrats hadn’t “cried wolf” during the entire Russian Collusion Impeachment Hoax, they would’ve gained more support. However, the American people had already seen through the Democratic idiocy and no one believes the 2020 election was legitimate. It is what it is….

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  114. “Opinion: In office, Trump was the greatest threat to U.S. democracy. Now it may be Tucker Carlson.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/12/tucker-carlson-conspiracies-fox-news-dangerous/

    Max Boot, who wrote the above opinion piece, is a pretty conservative guy. Yet, he is critical of outlets like Fox News and guys like Tucker Carlson who propagate outright lies. At the end of his opinion piece Mr. Boot sums it up rather well when he writes the following:

    “I welcome a debate that features conservative views. But that is not what Carlson represents. He is peddling lunatic conspiracy theories that endanger people’s lives and shred our social fabric. The executives at Fox News — and at the cable systems that carry it — should be ashamed of themselves for beaming this dangerous claptrap into millions of homes”.

    Amen!

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    • Seriously? Like the opinion of anyone working at the Washington Post matters. The State run news agencies, which are nothing more than Democratic run news agencies and have been for quite some time now, are trying to silence other news agencies to institute total information control in this country. CNN is even petitioning Cable Providers to literally remove certain news agencies, that are not conforming to the “Fake News” outlets, from it’s channel line ups. This is straight up “Not See” tactics, developed by Goebbles, adopted by Communist Countries and will NOT take place in the United States. There is nothing wrong with Tucker Carlson and the truth is those whom are calling for these “bans”, should be the ones removed from the TV’s. There is a freedom of press and freedom of speech that is being attacked by the Democratic Traitors Against America and this is just one example of their treachery.

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  116. On the evening before the rally, Trump discussed the security situation with Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller. Trump told Miller 10,000 soldiers would be needed for security. Miller then told Trump, someone would have to ask for the troops. Trump could have, but did not, issue an order THEN to activate troops. He made the situation even worse the next day when he told his rally-goers to march to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you.

    Trump foresaw the likelihood of violence and yet did nothing to prevent it. Even though he was acquitted of insurrection, a bipartisan majority of the Senate refused to vindicate him. According to an ABC News/Ipsos poll released today, 58 percent of Americans believe former President Donald Trump should have been convicted in his second impeachment trial, Also, it looks like there will be a 9/11-type investigation.

    The bottom line is history will find Donald J. Trump GUILTY and will hold him to account.

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    • After reading what you said, I realize that 58% of Americans are fuktards and the rest of us haven’t been brainwashed by the Democratic Traitors Against America. The CIA did research back in the 60’s that showed if you repeated a message about 500 times, 58% of those researched would believe what they repeated. Unfortunately, I am of the 42% and my I.Q. is probably 42% higher than those whom were tested. My real question for you is, do you take pride in destroying America in order for 58% of Americans to feel like they won, when in reality they lost?

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    • Wrong. Trump offered the Capitol Police and the D.C. Police those 10,000 National Guardsmen to protect the Capitol, but the Democratic Traitors Against America refuse in order to instill the false narrative of an insurrection that really didn’t occur. The insurrection was a staged event where Democratic Traitors took part in the protest to create a riot that the Democratic Traitors Against America used as a fictional reason to try and impeach the Greatest President in the last 50 years.

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        • No. I don’t think so. He offered it because of the intelligence provided by the FBI, the Capitol Police and the DC Police. OAN has already aired the documents stating exactly what I’m typing and I’m not mistaking anything.

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          • Hey Soul. You have a grasped on the real world. Do you think President Trump would get the same kid glove treatment from the MSM that Governor Cuomo will receive whether he was right or wrong?

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  117. There is a rumor circulating on the internet that Governor DeSantis told President Biden to …… go f- – k himself. This did not occur. Please feel free to fact check it for yourself. The Governor did voice his displeasure regarding actions that he perceived to be political retribution directed against his administration and his state.

    Generally speaking this type of rude and obnoxious language has been primarily used by liberal outspoken Democrats although it has often been virtually ignored, overlooked, and unaddressed by the MSM.

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