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Harford County Executive Craig to Hold FY15 Budget Hearing at Fallston High School Nov. 25

November 22, 2013 By Dagger News Service 69 Comments

From Harford County Government:

(Bel Air, MD) – – Harford County Executive David R. Craig will host a public hearing on the FY 15 budget on Monday, November 25, 2013. The budget hearing will be held at Fallston High School located at 2301 Carrs Mill Road, Fallston, Maryland 21047. It will begin at 6:00 p.m. in the school auditorium.

“It is important to hear from the taxpayers when developing a budget,” said County Executive Craig. “This is a chance for citizens to express what they would like to see funded, and we always value the input provided.”

Members of the County Executive’s Cabinet and budget officials will also attend the hearing. The FY 15 budget will be prepared between January and late March of 2014. The proposed budget will be presented to the Harford County Council on April 15, 2014.

Citizens who want to speak during the budget hearing should arrive at least 30 minutes prior to the start of the session to sign in. Speakers will be given three minutes to comment unless they are representing a group in order to allow everyone an opportunity to address the Administration. Those speaking on behalf of an organization will be given five minutes to speak.

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  1. here they come says

    November 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    insert negative teacher comments below

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    • The Money Tree says

      November 23, 2013 at 9:50 am

      Rightfully so! Loads of new mandates, increased public scrutiny, multiple college degrees, increases in pension contributions/healthcare, and 1 contractual step i. 5 years! Meanwhile every single county around us has given steps and cost of living increases. How is it possible that a wealthier county cannot manage this when places like Cecil county can?

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    • Trolling says

      November 24, 2013 at 12:04 pm

      How about we insert comments about who to vote for in the primary. I’m considering my options, perhaps, Charles Lollar. June 24, 2014 the day Craig falls.

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  2. good says

    November 23, 2013 at 7:43 am

    Republican Larry Hogan has announced he will is running for Governor. Former Gov. Bob Ehrlich has said Hogan is “the only Republican in the state with a chance to win.”

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    • Erlich Sucks says

      November 23, 2013 at 11:32 am

      Ehrlich also supported Rommney during the Republican Primary process. He said Mitt Rommney was the only Republican that could win the white house. Ehrlich, McCain, Grahm, and the rest of the established thieves can go piss up a rope.

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      • Cdev says

        November 23, 2013 at 10:11 pm

        And Ron Paul and Hermain Cain had a chance in hell? Romney had a shot but tanked his campaign. He lost independents and moderates!

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        • quef says

          November 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm

          and conservatives

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          • Cdev says

            November 25, 2013 at 10:33 pm

            So you are saying more conservatives voted for another candidate in the general election? Who?

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          • quef says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:00 am

            They stayed home and many didn’t vote.

            Romney and McCain were laughable as candidates. Tax and spend Rinos and no better than Obozo.

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  3. Freestate? says

    November 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    Ehrlich a thief ? What do you call our current Governor ? And where did all that transportation fund money go ?

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    • George says

      November 23, 2013 at 3:26 pm

      He’s a politician. It’s one of the job prerequisites…

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  4. Previous Dave Fan says

    November 23, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    I really don’t think Craig has a snowball’s chance to win. Instead spending his second term doing what’s right for the county, he tried to make himself look more like something the far right would approve. He’s going to spend his last year wasting money on a lost campaign and being distracted with something that will never happen. David, you still have one last chance to do what you know would set us on a the right path. Stop trying to squeeze loyal county employees families. You’ll still live here next year. Your neighbors will be suffering from the posturing you’ve been heaving upon the county. It’s not too late to have a legacy that doesn’t totally suck.

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  5. Cdev says

    November 23, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Craig won’t even win Harford County in the primary!

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  6. Trolling says

    November 24, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-06-11/explore/ph-ag-letter-pierzchalski-0607-20130611_1_teacher-pay-maryland-david-craig

    Question for lawyers – Does Craig have to supply one lump sum to the BOA, or can he legal provide funds in two parts? One part for salary (including missing steps) and benefits. Another part for all other operational expenses.

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    • Cdev says

      November 24, 2013 at 8:37 pm

      One sum for capital and one for operations!

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      • Trolling says

        November 24, 2013 at 11:54 pm

        Yes. Craig argues that he provides enough funds, but the board misuses them. He offered to assist the board with budget management (which they declined) and states he has no control and/or power over the way the funds are spent. So I’m questioning the reality of his statement, and conversely, the reality of the BOE statement that he doesn’t supply adequate funds. Can the county executive legally disburse funding to the BOE and dictate the way the funds are spent? In other words, can he “earmark” a percentage of the overall budget for raises and missed steps with a legal expectation that the BOE uses them for this designated purpose? It seems both parties blame each other.

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        • Ryan Burbey says

          November 25, 2013 at 8:19 am

          He cannot earmark the BoE funds. All that needs to be known about school funding in Harford County is we are 19th out of 24 MD Counties. How mush waste can there be at 19th?

          The fact is that Harford County has a history of underfunding its schools.
          HCPS Funding Rank in MD by Year
          2002-2005 24th out of 24
          2006 23rd out of 24
          2007 16th out of 24
          2008 17th out of 24
          2009 18th out of 24
          2010 18th out of 24
          2011 18th out of 24
          2012 17th out of 24
          2013 19th out of 24
          While other districts are able to expand their programing and recruit the best teacher candidates, HCPS is forced to make cuts to programing and positions. This lack of funding is creating an impending disaster in HCPS.

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          • Arturro Nasney says

            November 25, 2013 at 9:38 am

            The data which you provided is useless, (much like the union.) How are the data developed? What are the criteria used? How many schools, how many students, how many BOE staff? What are the actual dollars per stident? Provide those data and then one can begin to develop the data needed for decision making. The fact that CE offered to asssit the board and was refused is a major data point. When you guys in the education industry get serious give us a holler, in the menat time go suck eggs.

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          • TR says

            November 25, 2013 at 10:01 am

            Ryan, what do these numbers represent? Total county funding? County funding per pupil? County + State funding per pupil? County funding as a % of total county appropriations? County funding as a % of total school system revenues? Something else? Whichever it is, I’m sure it’s the one which makes the county seem the worst. But at the very least tell us which one it is.

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 25, 2013 at 11:22 am

            Since that data applies to total per pupil expenditures it really does not matter how many schools, how many students, how many BOE staff? The rankings are developed by MSDE and the legislative report on local governments. Historically, the state of Maryland has contributed more to the education of Harford County’s children than Harford County Government. In FY 2013, the state of Maryland contributed 49.2% compared to Harford County’s total contribution of 46.4%. I believe for FY14 Harford County contributed slightly more than the state but not much the problem is that as Harford County’s wealth has grown, the contribution to education has not grown proportionally. Between 2006 and 2013, Harford County’s wealth per pupil increased by 61%. As our measured wealth has grown, Harford County has been expected to accept more responsibility for the cost of educating our children. Unfortunately, local school funding by percent of budget, has declined during this same time frame. These are not slanted stats. http://dls.state.md.us/data/polanasubare/polanasubare_intmatnpubadm/polanasubare_intmatnpubadm_annrep/Overview-of-Local-Maryland-Governments-WEB-COPY.pdf
            1. Baltimore City $16,879
            2. Worcester 16,605
            3. Kent 15,643
            4. Montgomery 15,467
            5. Howard 15,298
            6. Prince George’s 15,056
            7. Allegany 14,618
            8. Somerset 14,397
            9. Garrett 14,154
            10. Baltimore 13,677
            11. Charles 13,508
            12. Calvert 13,507
            13. Dorchester 13,452
            14. Anne Arundel 13,285
            15. Carroll 13,241
            16. Frederick 13,130
            17. Wicomico 13,077
            18. Washington
            19. Harford 12,924
            20. Caroline 12,726
            21. Cecil 12,666
            22. Talbot 12,502
            23. St. Mary’s 12,324
            24. Queen Anne’s 11,996

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          • DaddyRabbit says

            November 25, 2013 at 12:22 pm

            Ryan; Data are plural. It should be “those data apply.” I agree with Arturro and TR. Figures are totally irrelevant without explanation as to how they were derived. The stats above, showing Harford as 19th with 12,241 is also most interesting. Is that the cost per pupil to operate our schools? If it is one can deduce that the cost to operate a 25 student classroom is $30,025.00! I also must ask if that is the cost per year. If the average salary for the teacher is $50,000, and the benefits and other salary related costs are 43% (modest figure) it costs $71,500 for the teacher. That leaves $22,875 being spent to provide the overhead. There is where you find the money to support raises, steps, etc, etc. You can not take it out of the pockets of the non-government people who are actually producing. We have seen NO pay raises, no cost of living adjustments, nothing. Raising taxes is not the real answer but it certainly is a simplistic answer for someone who has proven to be overly simplistic.

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          • Trolling says

            November 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm

            There is no guarantee that an increase in funding will result in an increase in teacher salary. As it stands, the BOE can spend the money on whatever they desire. I am not taking sides, only trying to find a solution that benefits both parties, since they cannot agree on anything. Where is the compromise and how can it be accomplished?

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:17 am

            Actually, HCEA has negotiated contingencies for several years with HCPS that would guarantee the funds went to employee wages but the rather modest increases necessary have deliberately gone unmet, as Candidate Craig tries in vain to appeal to the far right constituency he covets in his run for governor.

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          • Kharn says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:35 am

            Or maybe the county’s broke due to the real estate bubble and other tax revenue shortages. HCPS has a budget of ~$400mil/yr, Harford County as a whole has a budget of ~$800mil/yr, when times get tough, a reasonable person would expect HCPS to absorb a significant portion of any cuts.

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 26, 2013 at 11:07 am

            Or maybe Harford County is taking in more revenue than ever before. It is just not going to schools.
            http://www.harfordcountymd.gov/Budget/

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    • Mr Pilkington says

      November 26, 2013 at 6:00 pm

      Burbey –

      $12,924 per student is an obscene amount of money. You should feel guilty that you are part of the wastefulness of HCPS.

      We are not going to give you more money.

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      • Ryan Burbey says

        November 26, 2013 at 6:42 pm

        Perhaps you just don’t understand the cost associated with educating children. I think the rankings speak for themselves. 19th out of 24.
        http://dls.state.md.us/data/polanasubare/polanasubare_intmatnpubadm/polanasubare_intmatnpubadm_annrep/Overview-of-Local-Maryland-Governments-WEB-COPY.pdf
        1. Baltimore City $16,879
        2. Worcester 16,605
        3. Kent 15,643
        4. Montgomery 15,467
        5. Howard 15,298
        6. Prince George’s 15,056
        7. Allegany 14,618
        8. Somerset 14,397
        9. Garrett 14,154
        10. Baltimore 13,677
        11. Charles 13,508
        12. Calvert 13,507
        13. Dorchester 13,452
        14. Anne Arundel 13,285
        15. Carroll 13,241
        16. Frederick 13,130
        17. Wicomico 13,077
        18. Washington
        19. Harford 12,924
        20. Caroline 12,726
        21. Cecil 12,666
        22. Talbot 12,502
        23. St. Mary’s 12,324
        24. Queen Anne’s 11,996

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        • Mr Pilkington says

          November 26, 2013 at 7:17 pm

          I understand that Utah spends half of what Harford County spends and they get better SAT scores.

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 26, 2013 at 8:31 pm

            Ahhh…The latest ridiculous, “Let’s not fund our schools talking point.” Completely inaccurate but who cares. No one looks this up. Look it up. Let’s not even examine that a lost as many kids took the SAT in Harford County as the entire state of Utah…That would not skew results would it???

            http://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/cb-seniors-2013

            http://www.daggerpress.com/2013/11/18/average-2013-sat-scores-exceed-college-readiness-benchmarks-in-most-harford-county-high-schools-fall-short-for-automatic-entry-to-credit-courses-at-harford-community-college/

            Let’s just ignore that the cost of education is much less in Utah and that Utah ranks near the bottom of the nation in every income or revenue category.

            http://www.nea.org/assets/img/content/NEA_Rankings_And_Estimates-2013_(2).pdf

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          • Poor Comparison says

            November 26, 2013 at 8:33 pm

            A very small percentage (less than 5%) of Utah students (as well as students in most western states) take the SAT and nearly all of those that do are in the top 5% of their graduating class. Most Utah students take the ACT which is required for acceptance to western US universities. Using only SAT scores as a metric of student performance makes for poor comparisons between different states. Also, regional costs per pupil cannot be directly compared. They must be adjusted for regional costs of living. Socioeconomic diversity of student populations in each state are another variable that must considered. This is the problem with evaluating the success of schools. There are too many variables that are not controlled to make reasonable comparisons.

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          • Mr Pilkington says

            November 26, 2013 at 8:39 pm

            Oh really!

            Utah has excellent schools at half the price of Harford County.

            Go ahead and spin it!

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          • Poor Comparison says

            November 26, 2013 at 8:52 pm

            If your statement is true, how about you figure out how Utah is able to make that happen and post the explanation for us? Then maybe you can get elected to the HCPS BOE and bring Utah here. Otherwise, just capping the current HCPS budget (or in your case you would probably like to see it reduced) is not a plan to improve or school system. Doing only that will do two things. One, reduce the effectiveness of our current school system. And two, keep more money in your wallet, which in the end, is what seems to be all you care about.

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          • Mr Pilkington says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:14 pm

            Poor Comparison

            So you can’t explain Utah’s success at half the cost per pupil.

            Okay I accept it.

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          • Cdev says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:41 pm

            Utah did not comply with NCLB and does not receive FARMS money!

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          • Because says

            November 27, 2013 at 7:14 am

            Move to Utah.

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          • Poor Comparison says

            November 27, 2013 at 8:59 am

            @ MP
            You are the one proposing that Utah has more successful schools at a lower cost than Maryland. The burden of proof for this conclusion falls on you. Any evidence you provide should be able to withstand the scutiny of others. The evidence should also suggest an explanation as to the differences between Utah and Maryland. So far, you have failed to provide the evidence or the explanation. Your short, opinionated posts add little to any real discussion on this topic…which should be expected considering the forum.

            Now you could turn this around and demand Maryland school administrators justify the costs of Maryland schools. But remember, no one on this thread suggested that Maryland schools are more successful than schools in Utah or that the costs of Maryland schools are justified. However, if I were to make that case, I would likely point to the fact that Maryland schools continue to be ranked #1 in the country and Utah ranks #36. Please feel free to be critical of those rankings by reviewing them at http://www.edweek.org/ew/qc/2013/state_report_cards.html, but those rankings have been consistent for the last 5 years. According to the rankings, Utah’s lack of success is due to the following: low student achievement levels, poor teacher quality/accountability/incentives, and total school spending. Maryland’s success is due to the following: high standards and accountability, high student achievment, high teacher quality/accountability/incentives, total school spending, and career and college readiness. The only metric that Utah exceeds Maryland is in their level of standards with Utah at a 100% score and Maryland at a 96.4%.

            To bring the conversation back to increasing funding for HCPS, Harford County ranks 19th out of 24 counties in per pupil funding yet Harford County ranks 10th or better on student performance on SAT, HSA and MSA. How much longer will it be before HCPS student achievement levels fall because HCPS funding levels continue to fall, as is the case in Utah? You may want HCPS funding to fall to 24th out of 24 counties, but do you want HCPS student achievement levels to fall to 24th out of 24 counties?

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          • Mr Pilkington says

            November 27, 2013 at 9:10 am

            Because –

            I lived in Utah twice and loved it.

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          • Mr Pilkington says

            November 27, 2013 at 9:16 am

            Poor Comparison

            I see your point that you think Maryland getting a B grade on spending is better than Utah getting an F. Not surprising that Maryland taxpayers pay twice as much as Utah taxpayers.

            You must be disappointed that Maryland and Utah had an equal grade of Economy & workforce: A (100.0).

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        • Ryan Burbey says

          November 26, 2013 at 8:14 pm

          Ahhh…The latest ridiculous, “Let’s not fund our schools talking point.” Completely inaccurate but who cares. No one looks this up. Look it up. Let’s not even examine that a lost as many kids took the SAT in Harford County as the entire state of Utah…That would not skew results would it???
          http://research.collegeboard.org/programs/sat/data/cb-seniors-2013
          http://www.daggerpress.com/2013/11/18/average-2013-sat-scores-exceed-college-readiness-benchmarks-in-most-harford-county-high-schools-fall-short-for-automatic-entry-to-credit-courses-at-harford-community-college/
          Let’s just ignore that the cost of education is much less in Utah and that Utah ranks near the bottom of the nation in every income or revenue category.
          http://www.nea.org/assets/img/content/NEA_Rankings_And_Estimates-2013_(2).pdf

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          • Mr Pilkington says

            November 26, 2013 at 10:47 pm

            Burbey –

            Utah ranks as one of the top states in the nation to live in.

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      • Mr Pilkington says

        November 26, 2013 at 9:45 pm

        Cdev –

        And your point is what?

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  7. plunker says

    November 25, 2013 at 8:25 am

    Raise taxes, get teachers more money, then they end up losing what money they got in a raise since it goes to higher taxes. Fartttttt.

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    • LOL says

      November 25, 2013 at 2:16 pm

      You and me both buddy, I fart as well.

      I never understood the idea of raising taxes to support just a raise, probably where most teachers live (Harford) that they will have to pay hundreds more per year whatever tax is increased (property), to see their “raise” or coca “cola” get nuked in the new tax. WTF, yo?

      The never ending up one ladder rung, up another. Shit hot dogs! Wait, what?

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    • thirdyearharcoteacher says

      November 25, 2013 at 10:11 pm

      I make less now than I did three years ago. My pay ends up actually decreasing every year, because taxes are getting higher. I’m not sure if this is the case with other workers in Harford County–I just know that I’m making less than I was when I was a first-year teacher.

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      • quef says

        November 25, 2013 at 10:15 pm

        so are the rest of us pal

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        • thirdyearharcoteacher says

          November 25, 2013 at 11:12 pm

          Good to know I’m not the only one, I guess? Either way, I’m just happy to have a job I truly enjoy. I love going to work every day, and I know not everyone can say that. I’m also pretty sure everyone would like to make more money…that’s nothing new.

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          • quef says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:06 am

            You can’t name 3 people who think they are over paid. We are all in the same boat except many of us in the private sector have no retirement plan.

            We are all getting squeezed and if we have to learn to do more with less, so to should the school system.

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          • Brianc says

            November 26, 2013 at 10:09 am

            Careful 3yearteach, the unionites will come and get you if they hear you say, you’re “just happy to have a job you enjoy.”

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  8. Brian Makarios says

    November 25, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    No, ‘data’ is not the plural form of what we define as information. The plural form of data is “datum” or, as Latin dictates, “datai” or “datas”.

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    • Pavel314 says

      November 25, 2013 at 7:34 pm

      Unless Latin has changed considerably since I had four years in high school some years ago, the singular is “datum”, second declension neuter; its plural is “data”.

      However, in current usage we tend to use “data” as a singular noun.

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      • Lack of respect says

        November 25, 2013 at 8:03 pm

        Actually a lot of teachers cannot afford to live in harford county

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        • Lack of Common Sense says

          November 25, 2013 at 9:15 pm

          At least I am replying to the correct post.

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      • Brian Makarios says

        November 25, 2013 at 8:17 pm

        Pavel, you are incorrect. You must have studied the common, street Latin used in the market place. I am referring to the Latin spoken by the upper-crust of society. The plural “datai” or datas”, the future tense declension being “datoi”.

        Hope this helps.

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        • Pavel314 says

          November 25, 2013 at 9:57 pm

          We read the works of Virgil and Caesar, among others, hardly street Latin.

          There is no future tense of a noun, only verbs have tenses. Nouns have declensions, verbs have conjugations.

          Google “Latin second declension neuter endings” for a quick refresher course.

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          • Cdev says

            November 25, 2013 at 10:27 pm

            What works of Ceasar?

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          • Brian Makarios says

            November 25, 2013 at 11:28 pm

            False. In ancient Latin, all words displayed action. Hence, all Latin words are verbs. There are also no consonants in Latin, only vowels, strictly speaking. So, when you speak of conjugations you’re really not making sense. In this regard, Latin is very different from French.

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          • Pavel314 says

            November 26, 2013 at 6:03 am

            @Cdev: Commentaries on the Gallic Wars

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        • Because says

          November 26, 2013 at 8:17 am

          A tremendous collection of sweeping nonsense Brian. Any quick lookup reveals you’re wrong about all Latin words being verbs and Datum being the singular form of data and the absence of consonants from Latin. Where do you get this stuff or do you just make it up to sound more impressive than you are?

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  9. OMG says

    November 25, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Speechless. Baltimore news just report that the County Executive Public Hearing lasted four hours and was primary dominated by an overwhelming appeal for education funding. Yet, he replies “Having 34 years experience in public education, it’s nothing new to see educators come and go.” Did a potential candidate just ignore the concerns of his local constituents, write them off? After 4 hours of comments. I don’t think he will win the election, but if he does. I will be writing a letter to his opponent suggesting they use that footage in their commercial champaign. His campaign slogan should be “I have all the answers, so don’t tell me!”

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    • Kharn says

      November 26, 2013 at 7:08 am

      Like a Republican ever had a chance of being endorsed by a union, much less the teacher’s union.

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      • Ryan Burbey says

        November 26, 2013 at 7:29 am

        HCEA is actively looking for Republicans who support education. We will endorse candidates, regardless of political party, who make our schools a priority.

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        • quef says

          November 26, 2013 at 9:25 am

          TRANSLATION – We support any candidate and we are willing to fund any candidate who will line our pockets with new contracts in return for campaign contribution dollars from the teachers unions.

          Who cares if it costs taxpayers more money.
          Who cares if we have to raise property taxes on citizens.

          Nothing but a bunch of whores who sell out to the highest bidder.

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:31 am

            No, we have an extensive endorsement process. Some candidates who have been supported in the past are not “union guys” but do or did believe in supporting our schools.
            Perhaps you have forgotten that teachers and parents of school children are tax-payers too. Don’t they deserve to have some say over how their tax dollars are spent?

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        • Kharn says

          November 26, 2013 at 9:29 am

          Mr Burbey,
          Who was the last Republican HCEA endorsed for office at the state level?

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          • Ryan Burbey says

            November 26, 2013 at 9:39 am

            HCEA has not endorsed any state-wide candidates recently. This year we stand with our state-wide affiliate in support of Anthony Brown.
            I think the larger question is she did a Republican candidate for governor last make even the slightest attempt to support education or teachers. Ehrlich certainly didn’t and Candidate Craig could not even find time to meet with the HCEA delegation at the MSEA convention. He was the only Republican to participate in the endorsement process.
            HCEA has begun to meet with candidates who have filed with the board of elections. Each candidate will be given equal consideration should they choose to participate in the endorsement process.
            About half of our members are Republicans. Three members of our Board of Directors are Republicans. It is not about Republican or Democrat. It is about whether you support public education, schools, students and teachers.

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        • Taxpayer says

          November 26, 2013 at 9:46 am

          Everyone supports the schools and having a good education system. Just because someone does not agree that throwing more money at the schools and expecting a better result it the correct way to go forward does not mean they do not support education.
          There are plenty of ways to reduce expenses and they have been provided via the website to the BOE. Some may be politically difficult and appeasing certain groups at the expense of all taxpayers should be shunned. We are into our 6th year of economic stress and every government entity should be taking advantage of cost saving measures before going after the public for more funds.

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  10. Backwards says

    November 26, 2013 at 10:37 am

    This is the least progressive county in the state. It has become the county of people yelling and no one listening. We are a “soapbox society” with an acquiescent majority. Nothing happens, and nothing will continue to happen. The reality is that no one really cares what happens to teachers because they do not have the foresight to see the true ramifications of what is being done. The lack of funding and proper budgeting is going to have some major effects in the future. It is truly a sad state of affairs.

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  11. observation says

    November 26, 2013 at 11:05 am

    I just saw three bumper stickers on the rear of a car in the grocery store. One for Obama/Biden, one for Art Helton, and the other – David Craig for governor. I think that says enough.

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  12. Cindy Mumby says

    November 27, 2013 at 10:16 am

    Harford County Board of Education President Reynolds: “…We Can No Longer Maintain Our Current Level of Services with the Funding Provided” http://www.daggerpress.com/2013/11/26/harford-county-board-of-education-president-reynolds-we-can-no-longer-maintain-our-current-level-of-services-with-the-funding-provided/

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  • “A plat revision reducing the number of lots is hardly worth you weeing your shorts over.”

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  • “You do know there is a system in the county called “Fast Track”. Ask your buddy Euler, he’s already used…”

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  • “Nothing at all suspicious about a property that has sat around for generations and then gets approved in record pace…”

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  • “Yeah, that's the whole point. He is not any other county resident, he is the county executive and he and…”

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  • “The amount of disinformation here is staggering. The land that is owned by Bobs family was actually platted for 14…”

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  • “$145,000 for a part-time job and then demand more money? Pretty cushy spot he's in...maybe he needs to spend his…”

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  • “@money tree OMG! Penman is paid the same sergeant's salary that every one else earns and a rate that is…”

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  • “Good lord man, go back and read the claim being made. You folks are all over the map. First it's…”

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  • “@Money Tree Since you are so much in the know, Did Bob authorize the Administrator to sign as Bob Cassilly,…”

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  • “All that money must have you high. No one said executive forged a document. It is Bob claiming someone else…”

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  • “I will repeat - you are aware that any approvals for development go through various county agencies to ensure whatever…”

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  • “He had plats expedited and also some things allowed to get more lots. His Planning Advisory Board appointee Amy O’Neil…”

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  • “Claiming the county executive forged a document could wind you up in civil court if you care to say that…”

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  • “You must be Bob with the name money tree since it seems to be raining down money on you and…”

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