From the Rick for Congress Committee:
Rick for Congress: Impallaria Announces Candidacy for 2nd Congressional District (MD)
After careful consideration and overwhelming encouragement from friends, family and other supporters, I am proud and humbled to announce my decision to run for Congress against Dutch Ruppersberger in the Second Congressional District.
I am asking for your vote, and your family’s support in the Republican Primary on April 3, 2012.
My Decision to Run
I have been contemplating this for the past ten years.
Over these years I haved watched Congressman Ruppersberger move farther towards the left, consistently voting with Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. He no longer reflects the values of the people he is supposed to represent in the Second Congressional District. I am not sure who the Congressman does represents, but obviously it is not us.
Now is the time, and I am the only candidate who has a proven record of beating Dutch. I led my community in defeating his ambitions in the 2000 presidential election year. And with your support I believe I can do it again. I want to be a representative for the people of the Second Congressional District who truly represents his constituents’ views.
I do not fear debating the Congressman; I want to challenge him on his liberal voting record and the failed policies of Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, whom he defends. It will be a daunting challenge, but I will not back down from the job of beating Dutch Ruppersberger.
Dutch and I Have a History
My first dealing with the Congressman was back in 2000 when then Baltimore County Executive Ruppersberger was pushing legislation through the Maryland General Assembly to confiscate private property from homeowners and businesses to give that property to his well-connected friends. I, along with my neighbors, formed “Citizens for Property Rights”, of which I was the Chairman, and our organization collected over 40,000 signatures to take it to referendun, and we defeated Dutch’s unconstitutional land grab. Our victory set me on an unexpected path to run for office and to represent the people of both Baltimore and Harford Counties.
Legislative Experience
In my ten years in the Maryland General Assembly, I have a clear voting record against:
irresponsible state budgets, bloated, wasteful spending and repressive taxes that are bleeding our families, out of control government regulations, benefits to every group imaginable except for the hardworking families who have to foot the bill.
I have fought for lower taxes, rational government spending, family values, pro-business values.
I have been endorsed 12 times by the Maryland Right to Life, the NRA, the Family Values Institute and other conservative organizations. I am highly rated by Small Business and the National Federation of Independent Businesses.
I am a member of the House Economic Matters Committee, the Subcommittee on Energy, the Prolife Caucus, the Veterans Caucus, the Rural Caucus and founder of the Budget Reform Caucus.
What I Want to Accomplish in Washington
As a congressman, I will vote to repeal Obamacare, oppose all bailouts and higher taxes, which only serve to expand government. I will support protection of marriage, the family, the right of religious organizations not to be infringed upon by Government, stiffer crackdown on illegal immigration, modernizing our military, and protecting private health care and doctors from a government takeover, and protecting Social Security.
I will introduce legislation that caps the number of Federal employees in proportion to private sector jobs. The number of federal employees should not be more than 5 percent of the number of private sector employees.
I will move energy to be part of our national defense and create a Manhattan-style project to promote the rapid construction of nuclear power, coal, natural gas and oil plants. This is the only true way to reduce our dependency on foreign oil and its strangle hold on our economy. This will make America competitive on the world stage once again in the manufacturing sector, and create new jobs.
It is also time to eliminate many Government agencies and return authority back to the states, especially the Departments of Education, Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency, and others.
Yet, he is polling at 3rd in his own primary. this thug has no chance!
What are you talking about?
There haven’t been any statistically reliable polls conducted.
You’re making stuff up!
Internal polls my friend. Impallaria is behind Smith who is behind Jacobs…
Nancy is too cheap to do any polling.
I hope he gets embarrassed in every way. I can’t stand Impallaria.
Rick doesn’t get embarrassed. As long as he gets attention, he is happy; like a child.
How did you get elected as a Delegate in the first place? Wake up people and start paying attention to whom you vote into office. Yikes!
From his public persona I can see that he is filled with hate, plain and simple. No one needs a person like this representing them in a legislative body intended to work together to improve on the country’s condition.
Does “The Situation” Rick understand that Dutch is on the INTELLIGENCE Committee in Congress? Why would he expect we would replace one of the smartest Congressmen with one of the dumbest Delegates?
Being on the “intelligence” committee has nothing to do with someone’s IQ….
George: Perhaps, but it helps.
So happy you have decided to run–you truly have your constituents’ bests interests in mind when voting. I think some people are negative towards you because you are brash, outspoken and don’t back down. I don’t see those qualities as faults at all. Good luck and you have my vote!
You could also praise him for being willfully ignorant and self serving. If that is who you want to represent you in congress then I guess you have your man.
See what happens when Rick writes his own posts. At least use your own name Rick.
You act as though Del. Rick Impallaria has no supporters. He doesn’t have progressive liberals like PTBL, but he does have a huge following who reliably return him to the Maryland House of Delegates election after election.
If you wish to send money to Rick Impallaria visit Rick4Congress.NET
It’s time for Rick Impallaria to replace Ruppersberger in the US Congress.
Why are so many voters not affiliated with either political party? Well, here is half of the answer. Good luck GOP.
The problem with most of the “conservatives” on this board is that they are only “conservatives” when it does not clash with “being a Republican” or to be “fair and balanced” a “Democrat”. Do as I say not as I do? I am proud to be a “small government fiscal conservative” who would love to hear that case made for either the Republican or Democratic Party based on recent past performance. Don’t give me the my party is better than the other party crap, your feelings, politician BS, or something from 20 years ago. Either put up or shut up. Now is your chance, so let me hear it.
Why replace Dutch? He’s done such a great job so far. The country is sure in great shape. No bailouts, no unemployment, no useless wars, no 15 thousand billion dollar debt, no housing crisis, no illegals, open borders, no massive government expansion, etc. Let’s put him back in so we can have more of the same.
HYDESMANN: You speak as if all the things you list were not caused by REPUBLICANS under Bush.
Everything is Bush’s fault! Gas taxes in Maryland, failed Solar Panel Company in California, and 18 vacations by Obama in three years, you get it;
all Bush’s fault.
Yes it is, glad you see it that way…. I mean two wars off budget, giving away the surplus because it’s your money but not your debt, playing banjo in Crawford while New Orleans is flooded, Enron unraveling and revealing God Forbid corporate emphasis on short term profit versus long term viability,and then of course the bursting of the housing bubble because we were all impressed with our home values and the ability to get things with no money down and finally the realization that everyone’s wealth was based on other people’s financial losses. They appealed to all your weaker and less noble motivations and you lapped it up like a hungry pig at a trough. So if you want to, you can also blame yourselves. Sometimes the best person you can have on your side is the person that tells you you are going the wrong way – if you would only listen.
FREEMARKET: You want to talk about vacations? “Bush spent 1,020 days of his presidency on vacation. To put this into context, John F. Kennedy spent fewer days in office, 1000, than George W. Bush spent on vacation. Bush spent 487 days at Camp David, 490 days at his Crawford ranch, and 43 days in Kennebunkport. George W. Bush spent 69 days in Crawford during his first year in office. In contrast, according to FactCheck.org, Obama spent all, or part of, 26 days of his first year in office on vacation. This was less than all three previous Republican presidents, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush, but more than the two previous Democratic presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.”
The Office of the President doesn’t take “days off”. Its a 24×7 commitment and it doesn’t matter where the the office holder is to still be the President. But it seems like President Obama goes away from the White House quite often, maybe the fact that he doesn’t really have a place such as a ranch or estate to go to makes it seem like he is “off” work, but as I said, the President’s responsibilities travel along as well.
Great rebuttal Proud. Everyone notice that he uses the tired and false arguments of MSNBC. This is so typical of a Marxist.
Great rebutal Arturro. You sound like someone from Faux or the Tea Party that attacks with name calling rather than offer an argument to counter me. Give me statistics that show Bush was not the president who took off the most.
Proud, I am neither affiliated with the Taxed Enough Already nor do I watch Fox. The interesting thing is that you toss those at anyone who pokes a hole in your flawed and ridiculous arguments. Now we all know that yo are a devotee of MSNBC and spout the rantings of a Marxist.
We could give statistics about the amount of time Obama is on the golf course. But why bother because they are all crooks…
ARTURRO: If you read my comment closely you will see that I stated that “…you sound like someone from Faux or the Tea Party that attacks with name calling rather than offer an argument to counter me.” So what do you do? Prove my point. Where are your statistics?
What statistics? I don’t need a Gallup pole or an MSNBC scientific study to state my opinion that you write like a raving Marxist. Quite simple. No data. Just an opinion.
ARTURRO: You must have a very short attention span or you are unable to read. Go back and see what this string was about: presidential vacation days. Your answer to every argument is, “Marxist.” Wow, you impress me with your analytical abilities and debating skills.
BTW name calling is a benchmark of the tea party.
PTBL you should be proud to be called a Marxist, I am. Social collectivism is what the United States needs.
PTBL, I’m sorry you feel this way. I will continue to proudly support social justice and collectivism.
Sorry proud. Your brand of rocks just don’t sink in any more. I did not call you a Marxist. I pointed out that you repeat the Marxist viewpoint. It is absolutely no different from referring to all others as tea baggers. Actually your use of tea bagger is repulsive whereas referring to you as repeating the Marxist line is not in the least.
And by the way proud, the string is not about vacation days at all. It is about Impallaria taking on Dutch. The title sort of tells it all: “Del. Impallaria: “It Will be a Daunting Challenge, but I Will Not Back Down from the Job of Beating Dutch Ruppersberger”. The attention span award goes to PTBL!
Proud to be more Liberal: except that you are as liberal as Stephen Colbert is conservative.
ARTURRO: I cannot understand why the term tea bagger would bother anyone in the tea party as it is a term they conceived of and used. Here is a lesson in this party: On January 19, 2009, Graham Makohoniuk, a part-time trader and a member of Ticker Forum, posted a casual invitation on the market-ticker forums to “Mail a tea bag to congress and to senate. “
The TEA BAG PARTY wrote: “Please tell your friends and neighbors about the Tea Bag Protest Party. Today! This is a grass roots movement that relies on your participation for success. After you send your tea bag protest letter please register your protest here. This step is completely optional, but will help to ensure that your message is not ignored by Washington and the Media. For each individual tea bag protest that is registered here, we will also add another tea bag of our own to a large bundle of them that will be used for a public protest ceremony in the near future. The information that you provide will be compiled to demonstrate the scope of this grass roots movement. The TeaBagParty was conceived by a small business person who has been working day and night to keep the business running and people employed for the past 7 years.”
So if they do not like to be called tea bagger, they should complain to the folks who started the party. But, as is usual with this group, they do and say things without a whole lot of thought.
And you can parse your words all you want, but saying I repeat the Marist line is calling me a Marxist (as if you even know what that is).
Since you do not seem to remember what comment started this string, I’ll remind you: “Everything is Bush’s fault! Gas taxes in Maryland, failed Solar Panel Company in California, and 18 vacations by Obama in three years, you get it”.
PTBL, I would respectfully ask if you would explain to your young daughter the derogatory conotation of “TEABAGGING?” I dont think you would like to.
I think we need to keep the debate respectful. That’s part of the problem with the world today..
PTBL- I didn’t say the republicans were not to blame also but we were speaking about Dutch. I know he supported Obama care, the Afghanistan war, increasing the debt and the bank and auto bailouts as did Babs and Ben. But they’re another topic for discussion.
HYDESMANN: You can’t blame the President for trying to mitigate the mess he was given by Bush.
Lord yes Proud. It is always Bush at least that is what they try to convince us on MSNBC.
Arturro: The only “…earthen jar full of fecal matter” is your mouth.
And now we have a perfect retort.
Clarification. Afghanistan began under Bush. Noble motive initially until we all got caught up in the excitement of shock and awe over Iraq – an elective war. The resources and attention was diverted from Afghanistan to Iraq… which is why we are still there – because we didn’t finish it before we engaged in a war that was elective. Chrysler has paid off its bailout. GM just had a record profit. What would you have the President do? Put them out of business just to prove a point about the self correcting success of capitalism and the needs of the free market and supply and demand? As for the debt, it began under Bush and he simply enjoyed his first term popularity to do things off budget. And we are all paying for that pride now – not just you.
“The Obama Energy Department is loaning a foreign car company $3.5 billion so that it can pay the Treasury Department $7.6 billion even though American taxpayers spent $13 billion to save an American car company that is currently only worth $5 billion.”
Conn Carroll – Washington Examiner
Pesky things those facts and figures!
Several major airlines have entered bankruptcy without government bailout, and emerged much stronger and better as a result. The only difference was, the airline unions were not owed any political debts by a just elected president.
Wow — If ever there was an indication of just how dense Impallaria is, this is it. After seeing just how much of a train wreck Andy Harris has been since taking office, he thinks we’re somehow dumb enough to double-down on that bad decision and replace a sitting gang-of-eight representative who is one of the most powerful people in Washington with Impallaria — who is clearly only half as smart and four times as ineffectual as Harris on his worst day. The Koch brothers are clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel when funding this campaign.
Rick Impallaria consistently votes conservatively on both fiscal and social issues. Nancy Jacobs has not and Larry Smith has no record.
Rick4Congress.net
Rick Impallaria likes to abuse his office and sue the sherrif! Then gets told by the judge he was wholey wrong and has no standing!
@Cdev
There you go again lying about Impallaria’s suit against Sheriff Bane. The judge didn’t hear any of the evidence in the case and subsequently the Maryland State Police sent a directive to all law enforcement stating tow companies could not hold vehicle owner’s unattached personal property.
Rick Impallaria was right and Sheriff Bane was wrong.
Paul, Rick, Tim whatever you name is. Rick is a bully who has accomplished nothing in office
LTC Larry Smith is the ONLY choice when it comes to defeating the long time incumbent Dutch Ruppersberger. Larry has the experience, credentials, and thoughtfulness necessary to win the race. Check out larrysmith4congress.com.
Larry Smith doesn’t have a good plan to fix the problem. His ideas are out in left field. (However, I would vote for him over Impallaria any given day and twice on Sunday (wait only dems can do that))
How is writing legislation to bring back fiscal sanity, altering Obamacare so it doesn’t bankrupt current policy holders, and caring about the 2nd district residents considered out in left field?
K: No it is far right field. I would bet money that there are very few that would want “Obamacare” to stop.
Speaking of which, when your side stops using “Obamacare” I will stop using “tea bagger” even though it is your term and not mine.
If only I could make clear to you that I’m an independent thinker. There are no labels attached to my lapels.
Dutch is definitely NOT a liberal (although I wish that he was), but I’ll vote for him over that whack job Impallaria any day (or night!) That being said, Ricky won’t even survive his primary, so I guess it’s a moot point anyway….
Uggg… so my comment is entirely about the “Manhattan-style project” statement in Rick’s comment.
First, the Manhattan Project was a research project, not a development project, it was about developing new technology, the atomic bomb, that would be used to end World War II. Rick goes on to list a bunch of technologies that already exist to develop energy.
Rick got this rhetoric from a suprising source, the Obama Administration. Energy Secretary Chu wants to do the same thing as Rick, except he wants to use research (keeping it in-line with the Manhattan project) to develop Green energy jobs, something definitely not in line with Republican thinking.
Rick needs to stop following the Obama line of thinking and ditch this research project of government spending on research or building and instead just reduce the amount of regulatory hurddles needed to build additional energy generation. But despite Rick’s rhetoric, he has voted consistently in Annapolis to spend money it doesn’t have. He didn’t start voting against the Capital Budget (the one that involves borrowing tons of money) until 2009 despite being in Annapolis since 2003. So when he realized that the Tea Party was a serious group, he decided to follow.
Energy
America must become less dependent on foreign oil-producing countries and more self-reliant. We ought to be drilling for our own oil, building nuclear power plants to produce clean, cheap electricity. Even coal-fired plants can be retrofitted to remove any harmful pollutants.
I will move energy to be part of our national defense and create a Manhattan-style project to promote the rapid construction of nuclear power, coal, natural gas and oil refineries. This is the only true way to reduce our dependency on foreign oil and the strangle hold it has on our economy, and make America once again competitive on the world stage to create manufacturing jobs.
Source: Rick4Congress.net
Paul,
As I said, this “Manhattan-Style project” is the same language adopted by the Obama Administration. And again, the Manhattan Project was a research project, not a construction project, so Rick’s analogy doesn’t make sense.
Watching the two of you randomly use words like research and development in the contexts you are trying to force them into is painful to watch. The Manhattan Project was a Research AND Development Project with the objective of creating a weapon using atomic theoretical physics. It involved Research and Development to find new technologies that could help create a reliable and useful device that could be delivered by the existing technologies to a target – initially in Germany – but ultimately used in Japan. The ability to separate fissionable isotopes within Uranium was just one of the many technologies pursued in the course of that program. Another was the design of the Exploding Bridgewire Detonator which provided the microsecond accuracy necessary to send the Plutonium segments into the formation of a critical mass. The first design for the atomic bomb used a Uranium Cannon. The second design which was actually tested at Trinity in 1945, and used over Nagasaki, was based on the Plutonium sphere design which was an improvement over thew Uranium design which was a further manifestation of the continuing development of new technologies to do the same thing better. And if you wonder why I am making a point of this… listening to people use these words as poorly as I have read here is like watching multiple blind men describing an elephant.
Good one Dave:)
Typical, try to educate someone around here and you get a thumbs down. I love willful ignorance.
Actually the “Manhattan Project” was a research and development project.
Paul, development is not construction. A better comparison for what Rick wants to do would be the Interstate Highway System, or perhaps the New Deal Construction Projects during FDR’s time. Two projects that only a spend and borrow politician would be supportive of.
FACT CHCK: You need to go back and check your facts about the spending policies of the BORROW and SPEND GOP/Tea Party.
We Dems are in favor of paying for what we spend and not expecting future generations to pay for it, e.g., Bush’s war that was off the books.
You are joking right, you don’t really believe that do you?
Proud that comment is an earthen jar full of fecal matter!
A “Manhattan Style Project” is simply a descriptor and development can be construction. I’m done debating this topic.
Brianczaw: All I would tell her is that The Tea Bag party was conceived and named by a bunch of ignorant conservative losers who were too stupid to know what they were talking about and continue to SHOUT about what they hear from the Faux propaganda mill. I will tell her that I roll on the floor with laughter whenever they get their collective panties in a bunch because of the name they themselves chose. I will show her the immature replies they make whenever they get frustrated with the idiot things they say and do. I will tell her to thank God for Democrats who will protect her from these hate filled, hood wearing racists who disregard science and work for billionaires against their own best interests. Does that answer you?
OK, I did get carried away – sorry.
Wow! I won’t bother with a reply because I just can’t compete with that. Since you seem to be a big first to call names lib, I just lost my job, So I am sure you are willing to take care of your fellow citizens. Will you come over my house and clean it for me, leave a couple of steaks in the fridge for me, make sure I get unemployment for as long as I need so I am not motivated to get off my butt. Maybe pay my electric bill for a few months, oh yeah, drive me to the voting poles so I don’t have to use my own gas??? Please. IF so, I will rename myself “proud to be liberal II”
Brianczaw: You do not even the slightest idea of what you are ranting about. All we liberals want is a level playing field where big business and billionaires pay the same tax rate as I do. If you can get your nose out of Faux “News” read the article by Warren Buffett: “Warren Buffett: High Corporate Taxes Are an American ‘Myth’”. In this article he states, “Even while enjoying record profits, corporations last year paid just 12.1 percent of those earnings in taxes, their lowest tax rate since 1972, according to the Congressional Budget Office.” We would like it if these corporations would move American jobs back to America such as Apple who has 45,000 American workers and 750,000Chinese workers. I guess that you lost your job makes no difference in your support of the party that cost you that job?
Moreover, while we respect the beliefs of fundamentalist, we do not want them to dictate our religious beliefs to us. Remember the First Amendment guarantees freedom OF religion as well as freedom FROM religion (regardless of what Gov. Haley Barbour has said.) What the tea party advocates is a plutocracy and a theocracy form of government and you just go along with that. What does that make you?
I fail to see how raising Apple’s taxes will help move all/some/or most of those 750,000 Chinese jobs to the US.
I’m not really unemployed. I own a small business that I take risk to run. I employ 6 other people with salaries between 36k and 80k per year. I make over 6 figures-yeah that’s right and I am not ashamed to say so. Do you begrudge me for that? I noticed when you thought I was unemployed, you did not extend your wallet to me–you only want “mean,greedy, big bad” corporations and others to do it… you might be liberal but you’re certainly not sympathetic or compassionate…
Every good liberal loves a welfare bandit, it’s mandatory I think!
FRED: So what you are saying is that corporate welfare is better. Do you support the $3 trillion plus bailout of the financial industry that can most certainly be termed as corporate welfare? Are the hundreds of billions of dollars given away each year to these corporations with no end in sight so much better than to lighten the tax burden on us? Big Oil will get $32.9 billion in tax breaks, subsidies and other handouts to the oil & gas industry by 2013. Do they really need that?
Come on think this through and stop screwing yourself.
PTBL,
$40 billion dollars? Are you kidding? Have you seen the debt and deficit lately? What impact do you feel that will really have?
CUT SPENDING!!!
If I make $5000 a month and spend $7000 a month – I’m spending more than I make. If I cut my food budget by $300 and place it into my entertainment budget instead – the bottom line is flat, but I’m still spending more than I make. If my employer gives me a generous raise of $1000 month I’ll enjoy the extra $$$. But, the problem is that without a real spending cut I’m still in the hole. Does this make sense?
If I take the extra $$$ each month and don’t really cut my spending habits – why take the extra $$$?
I feel confident saying that unaffiliated folks like me and Republicans as well, would gladly pay more to pay down the debt. However, when the president is going to propose a budget that merely moves numbers around, refuses to cut programs that are expensive and could really make a difference – can he be taken seriously?
I swear, if every household functioned in the same fiscal manner our government does, we’d all be broke. What is so hard to understand?
What would you cut?
Cut it all including defense.
@Proud
TARP was paid back.
Top three oil companies paid $43 Billion in taxes last year plus their dividends paid to shareholders were taxed as well.
GM an Chrysler bailouts were a travesties for taxpayers and bondholders.
GMs bailout deal has left the taxpayers with a $23B hole AND GM does not have to pay federal corporate income tax for five years. GE paid no corporate income tax last year.
Pays to be a friend of Obama (and Geitner).
and Bush as it was he that gave all that money away…or did you forget?
Actually, it would have been the Democrats in both cases, as Congress controls the finances and both houses were controlled by the Democrats. The 110th Congress was from 1/3/07 – 1/3/09; both houses were Democrats.
The 111th Congress was from 1/3/09 – 1/3/11; both houses were Democrats.
Anyways, have a nice day.
Didn’t the President just last week boast about how he saved the auto companies?
Sooner or later, you all need to stop blaming Bush for everything and start taking some responsibility.
“CHARDON, Ohio — Two more students have died after a shooting rampage on Monday at a high school outside of Cleveland that left three other students hospitalized with serious injuries, the authorities said Tuesday.”
Let’s hear it for the “more guns” and we need to make it easier to carry concealed weapons crowd.
I can always count on you to stay classy.
Peter: I wish I could say the same of you.
Proud, do you think this individual was lawfully carrying the weapon?
PAUL: Of course not but do you think he should have had access to a gun? My point is that the mere access to weapons breeds tragedy. As I asked before, unless you can guarantee that all gun owners are responsible AND trained, you can’t make a case for the prolific spread of weapons in this country.
Hey Proud,
I am all for mandatory training and stiffer punishments for violators. There is no way to guarantee this, nor is there a way to guarantee anything in life (Including guaranteeing those that drive vehicles will do so safely, etc.) If you make owning a firearm illegal, only the ‘bad guys’ will have the weapons.
Anyways, have a nice day.
PAUL: You are putting words in my mouth as I never said I wanted to make owning a weapon illegal. That is a straw man.
I only want the same thing as you, more responsible ownership. Perhaps, in time, the idiots will not have access to something that can only result in death.
Proud,
Honestly, have you not taken a bad enough beating on this topic already?
Question: Was it legal to have the guns in school?
If yes – then the shooter was not yet breaking the law.
If no – then the shooter was already breaking the law.
Question: Was it legal to use them against other people?
If yes – no crime was committed.
If no – a crime was committed.
Would you feel better if they were all stabbed?
Would it be less tragic if the killer used a baseball bat?
If you answer yes to either of these two questions you would be one sick person. Proud, the guns used did not walk into that school on their own and take aim and fire. Crimes are committed by people – not objects.
Once you understand this concept perhaps we could focus our attention and effort on the young people doing these crimes and do something proactive to help them not want to hurt others. I understand it is more compassionate to deal with the weapons employed rather than with the people doing the crime, and in this we disagree. Oh yeah, I do volunteer several hours a week to working with young people. There are plenty of kids – you helping out? I hope so.
Oh yeah, a couple days ago a guy in Goose Creek, SC tried driving his car through his home because he was angry at his girlfriend’s infidelity. Ban on cars in your war cry? If not, that’s called hypocrisy.
LOCAL: The difference is that a gun’s only purpose is to kill, while a car’s main purpose is transportation. Your analogy is a red herring. Nice try!
Hey Proud,
A firearm has numerous purposes, one of which is to kill. The same can be said you a sword, a bow, a spear, a harpoon, etc. Furthermore, other objects out there can be used to kill, and kill efficiently.
Anyways, have a nice day.
PAUL: Are you trying to say that a harpoon and an AK47 are the same thing? You are using a false analogy between them. How many people were killed by harpoons as compared to guns?
Many things have multiple purposes. When I shoot targets nothing dies. That alone proves you just told a lie.
Helping young folks? You didn’t answer the question.
People commit crimes. Punishing their weapons will not change their intent to harm others. When you understand this, perhaps you’ll understand why I work with young people. Why I find it valuable to instill in them a sense of worth and value. If their parents forsake them, it is important to me to let them know I have not. Someone cares for them and even loves them for no other reason than that they are alive and that makes me happy. Tell me Proud, are you actively doing this? Are you DOING your part to reach the next generation?
When a person picks up a firearm and decides to kill multiple or even just one person – that is a failure of his/her family. Well, for 40 years the government has declared war on families from the utter failures of the Great Society and the ills it has bred to the unbelievable coldness of declaring that our children are mere choices and not valuable and loved people. (Yeah, I’ve adopted children – yes more than one – so don’t go there!)
I don’t mind you being liberal or proud of it. What I mind is when people of any political flavor use a tragedy to advance some alternative agenda. Banning guns from law abiding people will not stop murder. Kids will not stop killing each other because they don’t have access to guns. You seem to suggest that murder entered into society with guns and if guns go it will stop. Sad news – it didn’t and it won’t.
What might? Making the difference in a young person’s life. Are you in? I work with 10 young people on a routine basis. How many do you work with?
LOCAL: You said, “When a person picks up a firearm and decides to kill multiple or even just one person – that is a failure of his/her family.: You see that is my point. That boy in Ohio should not been able to just pick up a gun. Yes it was a failure of his family but it was equally a failure of government to allow an incompetent person to own a gun in the first place. There are too many people who have guns in their homes and are careless or lazy and they allow children to have access to them.
What is so hard to understand that I have never advocated, “…Banning guns from law abiding people.” I have been consistent in my pleas for regulating weapons to qualified and TRAINED owners. “Kids will not stop killing each other because they don’t have access to guns” Perhaps, but guns make it infinitely easier to kill. As I stated before, “from 2001 through 2007, over 4,900 people in the United States died from unintentional shootings.” These would not have happened if there were not guns in the home or if they were locked away. As you know the most dangerous situation a police officer has is a call for domestic disturbance.
Just because you have adopted children does not give you the right to dictate a women’s health choices if that is what you were getting to. But at least you have put your actions to where you mouth is and acted. Are any of your children minorities? Most unwanted and abused children are minorities. You are so good to work with children, but the Great Society was NOT a failure. If that is what you teach these children, you are not helping them. If you are indoctrinating them with tea party propaganda, you are not helping them. If you are teaching them to love guns and violence, you are not helping them. Of course I do not know what your work is, but my point is just working with children does not confer sainthood upon you.
I must have misunderstood the title of this article based on the hyperdivergence from topical subject. By the way, is President Bush still in office? I thought he served two full terms and left the White House three plus years ago.
K: No Bush is not in office but the damage he caused will last for a generation.
Go for it Proud. When you delude yourself into thinking all of Barry’s miserable failures are the fault someone else, it’s easy to continue to admire him. the problem is that you can form dog crap to look like a rose but it still smells like dog crap. Only the dems with a perverted sense of smell can to admire this guy and his cronies.
You should thank your lucky stars for term limits then, because had Bush been in office for another four years I’m sure he would not have corrected all the things that happened in the previous 8 years of his presidency. And then who would you have to blame?
Mr. Liberal, on this we can agree; any leader of the Executive Branch who makes bad decisions, the effects will be lasting. In the case of the current CEO, who for whatever reason declines any responsibility for erroneous choices such as backing needless, murderous, money wasting wars, the negative ramifications will be multi-generational.
K; You mean the “…erroneous choices such as backing needless, murderous, money wasting wars…” that Bush started? I agree with you.
No, I mean sending military personnel into the far depths of Africa, bombing the people of Bosnia and intentionally setting afire American citizens (Waco-Clinton), substantially increasing troops in Afghanistan, you get the picture. Until you Mr. Liberal are able to slip out of the Democrat Party’s strangling grip, you’ll never be able to understand and discuss the true nature of this country’s problems.
K: You think that those poor diluted, right wing nut jobs at Waco didn’t set fire to themselves? You need to wake up, read, and think for yourself instead of accepting far right wing propaganda. Man, are you out of touch with reality.
Facts are my reality. I wasn’t at Waco and am highly skeptical of partisan reporting, whoever the news deliverer or the source. You Liberal, on the other hand, appear to be everywhere, all the time.
Well K you will NEVER find and of those facts on FOX.
I’m beginning to think you stalk the commenters on this site. You always seem to know, without doubt, what tv stations people watch, what radio stations they listen to, what newspapers and books they read, who they vote for, etc., etc.. It’s kinda scary, albeit way off base and factually erroneous.
No K. You will never find the facts on Fox. You have to watch MSNBC first and then CNN to get the unvarnished and absolutely true facts. After that you will be as well informed and well rounded as Proud.
just curious Proud, what were those poor demented souls DILUTED with before Janet Reno and her boss decided to exterminate them?
President Obama pulls off another great feat of diplomacy: “North Korea has agreed to stop long-range missile launches, nuclear tests and uranium enrichment at its main facility!”
What do you want: more of Bush’s failed policies?
Proud, you must get a tingle up your leg about this one. The great part is that the North Koreans, like all good communists, can be trusted no matter what.
Does Rick’s comment about not backing down from beating Dutch mean that he will support other Republican candidates with the same vigor if he loses the nomination? I doubt it, but I doubt we would see that from LTC Smith or Nancy Jacobs either. It’s a nice statement, but it would be nice if we had people running for office less interested in themselves, and more interested in promoting the ideas they claim to support.
It would even be better if he were to be more interested in promoting his constituents rather than grandstanding.
Mr. Liberal, you have no idea what “side” I’m on. My concerns are for the American citizens and how we are going to get out of the tragic mess created by both political parties.
The incessant insult throng you spew Mr. or Ms. Liberal is counterproductive to problem solving. I suppose that’s the point. You don’t have any desire to right the wrongs. Your modus operandi is name calling and degradation.
And just what “insult throng ” are you referring to Mr. K?
Why is a citizen who has grave concern for the state of our Union and attempts to alter our course via representation of a constituency self-absorbed, uncaring, and an egoist? Those elected officials that keep running and running and running instead of serving the public then going back into the private sector have ulterior motives. It’s pretty darn cushy once you reach the federal level. Those that do sure as heck don’t want to give it up!
K: You stated, “Those elected officials that keep running and running and running instead of serving the public ….” I agree with you, but where we part understanding is what party has the best interests of those people. I believe it is the party that does not ALWAYS vote for big business against the regular citizen. You may say “both parties” but that is equivocation. You say I am under the “…Democrat Party’s strangling grip…” and that tells me (in an insulting manner) that you are a GOP/Tea Party follower.
Until you can be civil to me and my beliefs, please don’t get sanctimonious and lecture me about “right(ing) the wrongs.” It is the far right wing that drives the Republican bus these days. If you don’t believe me, just listen to Romney, Santorum and Gingrich. Can you name one positive thing any of the GOP has said lately
“Make Obama a one term president!”
PTBL –
You continually use vile sex act terminology to describe people you despise who are part of the Tea Party or who you wrongly think they are because they are conservative.
You should be ashamed, but it’s obvious you are so deluded by progressivism and collectivist redistribution poppycock that you are blind to your own disciple behavior.
James
PTBL – Despicable behavior, a disciple of the radical far left you are as well.
Well James you should complain to the Tea Bag Party who first used this term to describe themselves. I will admit I love the SCHADENFREUDE of the Tea Party for using this term in the first place. However, I will cease using it if the right stops using Obamacare. Deal?
PTBL –
Your arguments fail and all you have left is shameful vial gutter speak.
By the way liberal newspapers like the NY Times, TheHill.com and President Obama himself have used the term “Obamacare” and Obamacare is not alternately used as a term for a typically gay-sex act.
James
Approximately 75% of your commentary involves some sort of personal insult, PTBL. It’s an art to have the ability to persuade or disuade folks in a debate type forum.
Proud,
First, yes both minorities. Thank you for asking.
Second, take your first paragraph and insert anything that can cause harm to another person where you put “gun” and the statement works. Singling guns out is not addressing the problem – that is my point.
You said: “As I stated before, “from 2001 through 2007, over 4,900 people in the United States died from unintentional shootings.” These would not have happened if there were not guns in the home or if they were locked away.
Actually I’ve been consistent backing you up on this idea – because everything you say is already the law! I’ve also consistently said something unintentional is the result or stupidity or carelessness. Doesn’t apply to me. (You must LOVE the Eddie Eagle program, huh?) I think the operative word you cited was INTENTIONAL. What happened in Ohio was intentional, not unintentional. Please tell me we don’t have to school you in the meanings of those words…
Great Society not a failure? Yup, tell me again how well Medicare and Medicaid are doing financially… really beat poverty into the ground with all those billions and billions, haven’t we? Glad to see that cycle of poverty finally ended… Of course you also said somewhere in this thread or another that you and your Democratic like despise deficit spending… Did your history book skip the section on FDR’s 12 year presidency? At least you make these discussion entertaining.
Hmmm… you said: “If you are indoctrinating them with tea party propaganda, you are not helping them. If you are teaching them to love guns and violence, you are not helping them. Of course I do not know what your work is, but my point is just working with children does not confer sainthood upon you.”
Never been to a tea party or a TEA Party event. Not exactly sure what their platform is… Oh yeah, there is none – it’s just a grass roots movement. There is great similarity among the various groups claiming to be a part of it, but no unified party or anything like that. Of course, if there was and I was a member it’s nice to know how accepting you are of differing philosophies. That is one thing I notice about liberals – they are all for thinking independently – as long as it mirrors everyone else’s (their) thinking. Might be true among TEA Partiers as well, but like I said, I have not hung around them.
Nice comment… “If you are teaching them to love guns and violence, you are not helping them.” Did you feel like a nitwit typing this one? Let’s see, the focus of my working with young people is to keep them from destroying their lives and others. Think I explained that earlier… let me check… yup, Feb 28, 2:59 post said it… and again Feb 29 7:24. Yes, the healthy recipe for encouraging young people to live good lives is teaching them to destroy it. Tell me, do you just knee jerk respond with your MSNBC cut and pastes, or do you really read what people are saying?
I’m not looking for sainthood. Nice to think you believe I might be worthy to seek it, though. I see a society that discards its children and feel that is wrong. Whether that discarding is in the trash bin of an abortion clinic or a juvenile justice system that does more harm than good – it makes no difference to me.
Hate my guts, guns and beleifs and make every accusation of how I want to limit “women’s health choices” (I swear that sounds so stupid) because I feel ALL children should be viewed as more valuable than human garbage or an unwanted wart. If that perception separates us – FINE. I can live with that.
Since I’ve asked a few times and you have not asnwered, I will safely presume you do not work with young people. That is sad – there are many hurting young folks that need people to demonstrate that someone cares about them. I guess it is easier to stockpile quotes and statitics for the 345th Regiment of Key Board warriors. My work doesn’t make me a saint, and many people I know don’t know I do it – I don’t do it for recognition, I do it because I care and it matters to me to get my rear end off the chair and put feet on my beliefs.
I respond to you because you sound like an idiot. You embarass yourself time and again by sounding off like a broken robot. You deflect conversations into topics that are off topic in some effort to make some ridiculous point that routinely cannot stand up to scrutiny. I don’t expect to win some internet argument and have no desire to. I care about people and feel compelled to help them overcome ignorance. Some fight it…
Hey Local Guy, you sound like a real American patriot. i would bet we could find areas of disagreement, but would spend much more productive time discussing our areas of agreement. I’m glad you wrote this response to Proud. You are eloquent and articulate in your writing without resorting to demeaning the reader. Keep posting here, I enjoy your stuff.
Well, thank you. (Blush) Ha! I feel certain we could find disagreement.
I try to remain civil because that is how I was raised. Again, thank you.
I am sorry if anyone feels that “…75% of your (my) commentary involves some sort of personal insult.” I admit that I give as much as I get. If someone attacks me, as many of you who are now complaining do, I hit back. So insult me and expect retaliation.
I do not apologize for my beliefs that the electorate should come before corporations, that women deserve to control their own health care and that a man must not even have an option of gainsaying her. I believe guns must be regulated and only allowed to responsible and trained citizens. I believe that our immigration laws are unsustainable and must be changed to make it easier for productive, law abiding foreigner to join us. I believe in universal health care. I believe that the only thing that can protect us from voracious corporations is the government. I believe that the many services provided by the government must be paid for by those that can best afford it. I think it is an abomination that only 400 families have more wealth that 150,000,000 Americans. I think that people in the GOP/Tea Party vote against their own best interests because they hate the idea that a Black man is president. I could go on, but you get the picture. My only criticism of Obama is that he is too close to Reagan and not close enough to FDR or LBJ (my heroes.)
If any of you fault me for this, I will only say that I don’t care: Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Democrats
PTBL –
You have described European redistributive socio-political systems that for Greece and other European and non-European countries have been financial and economic failures.
Interesting quote by Edmund Burke the father of modern conservatism, unfortunately he never said the words you posted. He did however say these words “when bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
You should also read and then quote Milton Friedman and Fredric Hayek and you then might begin to open your mind and learn the error of your failed ideology.
James
“Most economic fallacies derive from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another.”
“So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system.”
“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand.”
“I am in favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it’s possible.”
Milton Friedman
Of course you neglected to mention Germany. Then again, your intention to provide Greece by name while characterizing the other members as simply other “European” countries was an attempt to stigmatize what you feel is a system inferior to our own.
The only reason that Germany has survived the socialist mess is because of the tenacity of the average German. The system is an absolute mess however. The easy life that a pensioner was supposed to enjoy is now a nightmare for the average seasoned citizen. None of my relatives can live on their pensions and are having to find “creative ways” to make it from month to month.
European political and governmental systems are inferior to the US system.
The failed ideology you speak of managed to regulate for cleaner air and water and improve working conditions over the last 100 years. I would hardly call it failed just because you don’t like it.
Clean air and water are not the province of Democrats.
But their is no question the EPA and federal/state enviromental regulations we have in place today have gone too far.
If these regulations existed during the industrial revolution in the US, at the time transcontinental railroad or when we built the interstate highway system none of these things would have happen and we would be a third world country.
No one on this blog is the least bit surprised that your heroes are two failed socio-marxists. FDR dumped us deeply into the mire of socialism and is now thought of as slightly to the left of Lennon. LBJ was a despicable human being who was interested in feathering his and Lady Bird’s nests. His “great society” has cost us trillions and the stated goal of eliminating poverty has never even come close to being reached. The only way to eliminate poverty under our current thinking is to define poverty downward as we have done with education and all other unattainable goals.
Awaiting moderation by whom?
A good lib wouldn’t hit back, but simply give his attacker a nice hug.
It’s so refreshing to see the writings of well-read Dagger commenters!