Despite a bitter internal feud, no review of the Aberdeen Police Department is needed. Despite being severely fined and penalized in the past, the city should once again pursue sucking more water from Deer Creek. Despite its being in day-to-day control of the city’s multi-million dollar budget, direct observation of the day-to-day operation of the city’s Finance Department is needed.
These are just a few of the highlights from a report on the City of Aberdeen’s operation and health, as conducted by the 28-member Transition Team formed to help new Mayor Mike Bennett transition into office.
The report was unveiled to the public Monday night – nearly three months after Bennett’s November election to office. Put another way, one-eighth of Bennett’s two-year term in office has already been spent compiling this report and it will probably take the remaining seven-eighths of his term to implement its recommendations.
Seated behind the dais next to the rest of the city council Monday, Art Helton – a former state senator and local businessman who initiated and supported Bennett’s run for mayor and was later charged with helming the Transition Team – unveiled the report to a crowd of about 35 people, mostly comprised of Transition Team members and city hall regulars.
Helton said hundreds of hours had been spent compiling the report and he estimated it would have cost $100,000 to hire someone to conduct a similar study and produce a similar report. Helmed by Helton, the transition team, of course, conducted its work pro bono – or at least it didn’t charge any money from the city for its work.
I had a problem with Heltons’ boasting about the money the city saved on the report by getting the document done by in-house volunteers. The thing reads like, and essentially is, an audit of citywide operations. And the thing about audits, as everyone knows, is that they HAVE to be done by a disinterested, unconflicted third party entity. That’s just common sense. You don’t want the city auditing itself and in the case of the Transition Team you are as close as you can get to that.
I’ll beat Art to the punch here and admit, yes, he did go out of his way to find and recruit people from outside of the city to participate, but if you run down the list of Transition Team members again, you’ll find more familiar Aberdeen names than disinterested, unconflicted third party members.
Anyhow, without further ado, here are some items of interest I found in the report (which I quote directly from the document) – accompanied by my own personal take on each offering:
Quote: “The transition team was initially charged with reviewing the processes and procedures used within the Aberdeen Police Department. Upon reflection by Mayor Bennett, it was decided to forego that review at this time. Since Mayor Bennett has 37 years experience including management positions in law enforcement he did not think the need for an extensive review was warranted. He felt comfortable with his knowledge and experience in this area.”
Comment: First off, despite what you might think, I didn’t make that quote up. It’s right from the report. And it’s unbelievable. Second, does this confirm the rumors we were all hearing that the Police Department Review Team did in fact disband and break up before it completed its review? Third, this sounds like an awful lot of responsibility Bennett is putting on himself. Not only does he now bear the burden of having a budget hung around his neck, but the mayor is essentially saying he will personally decide what needs to be done with the police department. And we all thought former mayor Fred Simmons ran the police department as defacto chief when he was in office.
Quote: “The Budget Review committee, which was charged with looking at the fiscal condition of the city, has reviewed fiscal year audits from 2004, 2005 and 2006, but has not had access to the last budget year 2007 because of an ongoing investigation by the state’s Special Prosecutor.”
Comment: Helton pointed out the 2007 audit was the first year of budgeting done by the Simmons administration. Former friends now turned bitter enemies, I bet Helton was salivating while waiting to get his hands on that 2007 audit and pour over it for any minor inconsistency he could blame on Simmons.
Quote: “The Ripken Stadium has lost between $495,000 and $590,000 (rounded) annually since 2004. This Team recommends that a volunteer task force be established to address the Ripken Stadium financial issueand identify three reasonable solutions to the Ripken Stadium financial issue.”
Comment: That’s fine. But doesn’t the city already have an appointed Ripken Stadium Management Board to sort of do that?
Quote: “Currently no formal job/position descriptions exist for positions in the Finance Department. For reasons too numerous to outline, it is imperative that position descriptions are drafted and adopted.
Comment: I wonder if one of those currently undescribed Finance Department positions belonged to Simmons’ business partner and former Aberdeen contractual accountant, Steve Wright.
Quote: “This Team believes that further research, including direct observation of the day to day operations of the City’s Finance Department, will lend more insight into improved operational procedures and internal control.”
Comment: Wow. Day-to-day monitoring of the Finance Department could turn into a full-time job for someone. Maybe Steve Wright is available to be contracted out for the position. Or Bennett could just move Simmons’ police surveillance cameras, which he seems to despise, from out on the streets and into the Finance Department in city hall.
Quote: “Record keeping within city government is a weak spot. A records retention program needs to be developed as per State of Maryland requirements.”
Comment: They might not be able to find a copy of the city’s lease agreement with Ripken Baseball or a legally signed copy of the final special referendum election annexation vote, but I’d be willing to bet copies of this Transition Team report will be floating around city hall for the next few decades.
Quote: “Planning Commission recommendations should be considered for acceptance by the City Council. Modifications by the council should be made in open session and made a matter of public record.”
Comment: Call me naive, but I always thought the purpose of the Aberdeen Planning Commission was to convene until the wee hours of the night taking the brunt of citizen ridicule and lawyer rhetoric so that the Mayor and City Council didn’t have to.
Quote: “Web Site – This is an area of concern. The site is not being updated on a regular basis. There is need for the city to provide consistent and timely updates on the web site.”
Comment: I think it’s safe to say there is a problem with Aberdeen’s web site when, with a click of a button, I can find Mayor Chuck Boutin’s Nov. 19 1996 report on the city’s economy to the Aberdeen Chamber of Commerce, but I can find neither a photograph nor biography for city councilwoman Ruth Ann Young.
Quote: “Revisit the [Susquehanna River Basin Commission] to up the water allocation from Deer Creek to [Aberdeen Proving Ground].
Comment: The last time Aberdeen took on the SRBC, I followed Mayor Doug Wilson and city attorney Don Brand up to Scranton, Pennsylvania – a three-and-a-half hour ride just to watch the water commission smack down the city officials who put up little more than a whimper. Wilson and Brand didn’t survive long in public office after that. My bet would be neither will anyone else who seriously tries to drink more water from Deer Creek.
Quote: “CNA identified several water source alternatives for the City of Aberdeen. Three may warrant further study:
1. Pump water from the Chesapeake By near Havre de Grace to the Chapel Hill Water Treatment Plant
2. Pump Susquehanna River water at the Deer Creek entrance to the raw water pump station at Deer Creek, then to Chapel Hill
3. Pump Baltimore City raw water to the Deer Creek pump station, then to Chapel Hill”
Comment: If these are the three best alternatives for Aberdeen to get water, it seems like we’re really grasping at straws at this point (ugh, pun entirely unintended). Suddenly, Simmons’ plan to drink sea water doesn’t seem all that unpalatable.
In the interest of full disclosure, I didn’t stay for the whole presentation of the report. I didn’t stay for half of the presentation. All it took was for Joe Swisher, chair of the city’s planning commission and an all-around good guy, to announce that, out of himself and the other few members of the water and sewer review team, “none of us are water people.” I knew it was going to be a long night.
So I didn’t stay and maybe some of my questions and concerns were addressed. If so, please correct me or set me straight here. And if not, I sure hope they’re addressed as part of the Transition Team Report Implementation Period – or where ever Aberdeen goes from here.
In The Know says
The report vindicates the Police Department and makes Denu look like the liar he really is. Still planning the run for Mayor in ’09 Rick?
Punisher says
Vindicates?
Certain officers and the Chief caused so much disfunction to block anyone from looking and uncovering some truths…that Bennett decided to forego the “justifcations” and just do what he needs to do.
It’s just unfortunate that Kup, Young and Hiob choose to ignore the facts as presented by about half of the officers and not just Denu.
Melvin says
I think Mayor Bennett was correct in saying that an extensive review was not warranted. All he had to go on prior to the election were two disgruntled FORMER employees. Once he was elected he quickly realized he was being lied to. Since then he has met with members of the Department and I am sure he now has an accurate view of the day to day operations.
As for half of the officers, try maybe four or five that were trying to obtain a position they didn’t deserve.
Funny how the truth always comes out.
In The Know says
Where is Rick Denu on all this? Why is he remaining quiet on the report? Could it be that people found out he was not telling the whole truth? And what about his sidekick Joe Bray? What ever happened to him?
They both made some pretty big promises!
joshua says
Nice. Sounds like a real masterpiece of buck passing. The solution for every problem the city faces is to appoint yet more volunteer teams to find “reasonable solutions”. One would hope in a reasonable time.
This is my favorite part, “The Ripken Stadium has lost between $495,000 and $590,000 (rounded) annually since 2004. This Team recommends that a volunteer task force be established to address the Ripken Stadium financial issueand identify three reasonable solutions to the Ripken Stadium financial issue.”
1. That is a lot of money. A whole lot of money, yessir. But does it seem a little low to anyone else? Does that include the money that was counted on from the development debacle around the stadium that has yet to exist?
2.Volunteer again. Are there any experienced lawyers out there who feel like taking on a few years of grueling court fights with a multi million dollar industry? Oh, and you’ll be fighting one of the most uniformly worshipped and admired Americans in history. Pro bono?
3.Three reasonable solutions? Why not ten? Or thirty? Saying you’ll find three solutions is the same as admitting you will not find one.
In the Know (the real one) says
where is rick denu in all what? he LEFT the PD! why don’t you all get over that? or can’t you? the man has a very busy life from what i understand. you always see him with one of his children going somewhere. that what he is doing, the right thing. isn’t that one of his slogans?
Dell says
Joshua, I think I know why they settled on “three” solutions to the stadium problem. The answer can be found in a reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:
“Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, “Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.” And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals … Now did the Lord say, “First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.”
See? Three is the number of the counting…
joshua says
Dell,
If I were the type to type a LOL, rest assured I would have.
And if I might add, the only thing the report lacked was the formation of a ministry of funny walks.
vietnam vet says
as far as the mayor handling the police department. it ‘s ridiculous. the transition team turned out to be a joke. of which I think was expected.
I would like to have seen the initial finding’s of rick denu. or should I say changes he would have made in the police department.
Dave Yensan says
I have requested a copy of this report and am assured that I will have it within a few days. (sic) From what has been made available through the papers it seems to me that the team found that the previous administration was on the right track with the City finances and that it may be really hard for them to in fact make good on the promise to reduce taxes. The water issue really concerns me. If the City goes to Harford County to get water with or from them there needs to be some open and honest discussion about numbers. The water from the bay concept is now said to carry a cost to the City of $25,000,000 for about 6 million gallons per day of capacity in construction cost. Two or three years ago we talked with the County about combining with them to get water together. They quoted us a construction cost of $8,000,000 per 1 million gallons of capacity. The City needs a minimum of 4 million gallons of capacity. That means we could save $25 million by spending $32 million. Any half a CPA can see how that works well. After spending the $32 million to construct the plant we will then be permitted to buy the water at whatever O&M cost they wish to charge. Now that’s a really good regional solution. One fact is absolutely clear: if Aberdeen gets its water from anybody other than itself then the anybody gets to dictate haw and when the City grows. The no growth folks would love that.
The bottom line is that the transition team saved the City $100,000 dollars to tell us what we already knew. The only cost according to king Art is the printing cost for 50 copies. How about the staff time gathering stuff for the team?
RWinger says
Is it just me or is it that the report doesn’t really report a whole heck of a lot. Furthermore it doesn’t report any conclusions or solutions, so what was the point? Now that the report is done and it’s time to move on, does anyone know when the water and sewer rate will be decreased (as promised) and when the property tax will be decreased (as promised)? I won’t hold my breath.
Brian says
In fairness, and also partially because Art already yelled at me, my story just touches the tip of the proverbial iceberg. The Transition Team report is of significant length and scope and there are far too many numbers and words in it for me to adequately dissect it. So I just chopped it up for you all.
It’s my understanding a digital copy of the report may soon be made available to those interested.
Steve says
You know, I was thinking. Since the city needs a new and better website, maybe they can just lease space on The Dagger? Even if we just give them a small piece, it’s gotta be better than than what they have now.
In all fairness, the current website is better than the last incarnation. I mean, they did go from a 1995-based design to a 1997 design. That’s pretty good progress for our city’s government 😛
And since some of the county’s other archaic institutions have been sipping on some fresh brew, would aberdeen dare start a blog? maybe one for public works, planning and development, etc., designed to keep the residents up to date? I might know some people available for a decent consulting rate, since certain CPA’s are no longer needed.
vietnam vet says
greeting’s
fatalistic here. the transition team did what was expected expelled alot of hot air’ every thing will remain the same. tax increase’s are likely. no reduction’s and a shortage of water. hey’ dave I’am one of those people who does not believe in expansion with out solutions. ( water) do you know’ what’ it’s like liveing with heart trouble. breathing is serious problem. chest pain ( angina) sometimes so severe it feel’s like a heart attack. no disability payment’s. just work. I don’t use v.a. service’s. it’s not my to habit to sponge from our goverment. the elder’s lowered the boom on s fred.it look’s like it will happen again.
Dave Yensan says
Brian;
If Art yelled at you, wear it proudly my man. The transition report appears to be a huge smoke screen and just another reason for Art to puff up his chest. Face it Art has never done anything that wasn’t good for Art. How will he react now that the Ethics report is out on his Council President puppet?
February says
Dell,
Book of Armaments and Monty Python and the Holy Grail….good one.
You know, whenever you’re writing about religion, and another responds “but mindless worship is good for some people!” Moderates are those people.
Harry Potter has morals. A series of unfortunate events has morals. Mein Kampf had morals. Does this mean that they should be given a special standing over you or me?
Think about it…acknowledging that the Bible is not literally true is not a significant step if one still believes that it is a valid moral source.
February says
Here’s another one Dell, Just like the movie, “The Number 3”
Water, ice, jar with water in it and covered in plastic, and/or a cup of hot water. Allow the water in the jar to set for a few hours in the heat so that water droplets form on the inside of the plastic top.
Dell says
Ummm……What?
Brian says
Allow it to set, Dell !!!
Dell says
Deep….
Melvin says
Dave Yansen: Ethics report on the council president? What ethics report? Is it published somewhere?
Dave Yensan says
Melvin:
I just received my copy yesterday. I would imagine that it is in the public domain. Believe it or not the City spent quite a bit of money on legal fees for this so it belongs to the people. Basically she was found to be guilty of violating Section 9-3 A. of the Aberdeen Code, in that she used information for the benefit of herself and others.
Punisher says
Oh Dave and you didn’t. You used information and relationships to manipulate your way through your uneventful term and to seek a failed second attempt.
The thinking of the voting public was …”if you can’t help us, then don’t hurt us.” You and the rest of your dream team didn’t read them correctly and now your gone.
Dave Yensan says
Nameless, faceless one:
I still have my chosen profession. How are you doing?
Punisher says
As am I. I’m great thanks for asking.
I, like everyone else is waiting for your anwers about your aggressive anti-drug and anti-gang programs… or do you still need more time to make them up?
The fact is folks the Aberdeen Police Department doesn’t have a School Emergency Plan of their own, Homeland Security Plan, Anti-Drug Plan, nor a Anti-Gang Plan. Additionally, had they jumped when the issues arose, Aberdeen could have been funding these programs of Federal dollars, but they didn’t and won’t. So much for the wonderful Chief and his Command Staff.
In the know says
Punisher, you are misinformed. If you would like to see copies of the Department’s emergency plans stop on down for a visit. I’m sure they would happy to meet you and answer any questions you may have.
Or, you can continue to annonymously post false information on blogs hoping someone, somewhere will believe you.
Punisher says
Oh really, as of yesterday I’ve not seen them, nor a general order or any training for that matter.
Further if you really wree in the know, you would not that according to FIOA, ERP’s are not to be disseminated to the public.
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Punisher says
BTW…Post the Anti-Drug and Anti-Gand Plans here and now…I’m sure everyone would love to see just how well Aberdeen is prepared for these long standing issues. I’m sure everyone would also love to the grants that have been awarded for these two initiative… I can’t seem to find any grant awards on the State’s web page, nor DOJ’s.
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Punisher says
In the Know,
We’re all still waiting? I guess you need more time to pirate something from State Police Policy or maybe IACP.
It is hilarious how you plug some silly inuendo about someone and then fade when when asked for some hard evidence.
The answer is that you have NONE!
I wonder says
I finished reading all of the ‘opinions’ posted on The Dagger and I can’t help but wonder why Yensan doesn’t release his posture into his reclining chair with his wife nestled beside him and watch TV instead of debating with “who knows who” on The Dagger.
Poor lonely man.
Dave Yensan says
I Wonder:
I get plenty of time for that too. The problem is that I still care deeply about this City. The what’s in it for me crowd who never understood the concept of society and the common good make me a little crazy.
Somewhere there must be a text book that directs that once you lose an election you are supposed to move away and quit caring, like Wilson and Hanson. Unfortunately I didn’t read that one and since my daughter and grandson live in the City I continue to be concerned about the future.
Brian says
Great answer. What’s worse than someone who comes out and whines publically about the goingson of their government?
Someone who stays home and whines privately about the goingson of their government.
It’s tough to make a difference when no one can hear you.
Dave Yensan says
Thanks Brian! I cannot help but shoot back responses to this drivel. Someone without the intestinal fortitude tossing grenades without having to be concerned about truth or honesty are amazing. The Joe/Rick team failed so miserably that they obviously are ashamed to use their own names. It’s OK the City doesn’t need people like that anyway, any luck they both go back to the New ______ roots and try to pull the wool over the eyes of the folk back there. Oh gosh maybe that’s why they left.
Punisher says
Brian,
Where would you suggest being heard? The City Council Chamber was and is full of the regulars who do very little to effect any kind of real change.
Brian says
That’s true, but if you speak in public there is a chance, however unlikely, that a reporter may quote you and put you in the paper or at the very least consider your point when framing a question to an elected official.
There’s also a longshot chance some other like-minded meeting attendee might agree with you and strike up a conversation. That’s how movements start.
Even coming to The Dagger and spouting off about one thing or another will guarantee you an audience of several thousand a week and perhaps the ear of someone who can help affect that change.
But mumbling under your breath to yourself at home is a surefire way to guarantee no one will ever hear your opinion – no matter how valid it might be.
vietnam vet says
start a rumor’ it spread’s like wild fire. speak of a fact, there are willing ears to listen. but no action taken.
home land security plan for aberdeen? very unlikely. were left to our own devices. and as for the council. they can’t accomplish anything positive’
Punisher says
Totally agree Vietnam Vet. Does everyone notice that “In the Know” and or Yensen have yet to post anything that resembles fact…
Empty talk and lies is all they can offer. They like to spout that I’m full of it, but anyone willing to check will find the truth!
An Aberdeen Voter says
Brian,
Your comment is very true. A similar comment could be made about voting, whether in local, state or national elections. Many folks say they don’t vote because they don’t believe they’ll make a difference. And yet, they are often the first and loudest to complain about how things are being run. My thought is that if one doesn’t vote, one doesn’t really have a right to complain. At least in voting, one is attempting to effect change or confirm the status quo. An interesting poll here on The Dagger would be to see how many folks who complained about Mr. Simmons’ administration and/or are complaining about Mr. Bennett’s administration actually got out in the last election and voted. Of course, given a single individual may have multiple identities on The Dagger, such a poll might be meaningless. 🙂
Sad says
Hey Punisher! I checked….The truth is….Your still a lier!
Sad says
I also noticed Punisher(Mr. Denu or his likes), that Yensan hasn’t spoken on the facts he knows about you. Wow if only the public really knew what was in your closet. That shows me that he would be more believable than you. You sir do all the “empty talk and lies “.
In the Know (the real one) says
sounds like you sad, (Dave A.S.) know these so called “facts” that Yensan knows as well, or you wouldn’t be spouting off. Unlock the closet and bring them out.
Punisher says
SAD,
I notice you share the same “facts” as Yensen.
Belive me they tried to share the “skeletons” about Denu during the election and the fact is he has none.
What I do notice is that you, he and “In the Know” still haven’t posted these programs here. Are they not all in saved in Word format to be emailed around and placed in the “Rules & Regs”.
I think they should be pretty easy to get or do you all still need more time to pirate some up?
In The Know says
Internal “Rules&Regs”, as you put it, are just that internal. And not to be shared with someone looking for propaganda. It’s funny how you pretend to be a police officer on some of your posts and a potential cannidate in others. It doesn’t take a detective to see through you!
If you are running for Mayor in 09 like you said you are, make sure you’re prepared to take the heat. You lost your sense during your council bid (and lost the election as a result). You won’t have half the support you did last year Punisher. You lost ALL your credibility (both internally and externally).
In The Know says
Hey Punisher, how’s that train ride for you? As a frequent passenger, you should post a little on the station. I’m sure by now you’re an expert on it (like everything else).
BIC says
I am not sure who these FEW people are, nor would I want to know them by the sound of their evil spirited comments toward Rick Denu. I am sick to death of these shallow, small minded people on this blog.
I have known Rick for over fourteen years and let me tell you this, he is one of the most down to earth people I have ever met. I have been a friend of Elaina’s for over twenty three years. I am involved in almost every aspect of their lives. They have so many friends that have been a part of their lives for over a decade and more. I have watched Rick Denu as a husband, father (of seven) and friend. Elaina and Rick have an amazing marriage and their first priority is to each other and their children.
They have been through so very much and I can now see why they kept close over the years to only but a few of the officers. I see many officers where their entire world revolves around the department. Rick and Elaina have so much more in their lives than his workplace.
I was a large part of his campaign and again I witnessed his strong “support network” ban together. I witnessed officer after officer come to his home complaining about one thing or another and asking him for help in certain situations. People of Aberdeen, Rick Denu put himself out there for everyone of those officers many times and they have the nerve to say these rotten things about him? They really should look in the mirror as they are the turncoats. How many of you sat at Elaina’s dining room table after being invited for one of many of her homemade Italian meals? Rick Denu cared deeply for that department and from what I saw , because he spoke the truth, there are a certain few that couldn’t stand the heat and obviously still cannot.
I was there at the Meet the Candidates Night for support and hands down, Rick Denu stood out as one of the most impressive candidates. Whether you want to admit it or not, even though he did not get into office, he did very well for first run. If he ever decides to run again in the future, he not only will be the shining star, but he will have a little experience under his belt. No, he has not lost ALL of his support. Perhaps just in your little circle of “friends”. But this is not reality.
Rick Denu has moved on and this was something he has been contemplating for many years now. He is not the same as that other officer, Joe Bray. Rick Denu left the department to pursue what he has been working for. From what I understand, Officer Bray was asked to leave. Very different.
I am appalled at the comments you make about this fine man, Rick Denu. Jealousy must be a horrible thing to live with each day, very SAD.
Ol Man says
Here’s an interesting rumor for all you posters, critics or just plain anthropoids.
Our new Mayor Bennett was not satisfied with the unnecessary expenditure of funds replacing the things that the past mayor touched but now Mayor Bennett may have scheduled a “volunteer dinner” at the Aberdeen fire hall for approximately $14,000.00. No looking around, just hire friends to cater? This of course may include the “Transition Team”, They did work really hard for the citizens of Aberdeen. I understand the invitations were already sent out!
Last volunteer dinner get together cost the city about $2300.00. By the way, held at the Wetlands Golf Course and nicely done. I don’t know for sure if this is all true. Perhaps someone close to the inside can get better info. If it is true, you might ask “how come Aberdeen has all this EXTRA money”. Could expenditures such as this not be put to better use? Enact promised tax cuts, lower sewer & water costs? (election promises by Mayor Bennett and The Council President and Kup).
Sad says
Punisher,
It is my opinion that Charma is a real B****. I choose to sit back and watch those with little ethics or ability to tell the truth either hang themselves or become exposed.
Steve says
charma charma charma charma charma cha-meleon…
sorry, quite childish of me but I couldn’t help myself…
you come and go… you come and go-o-o-oooo
Punisher says
“In the Know” and “SAD”,
You post often, cast apsersions and always avoid backing up anything you post.
Again, if you had the dirt on Denu, you would have posted it.
Where did you hear Denu was running for Mayor in 09′?
I speak to him often and he has never mentioned that. In fact he isn’t even considering running for Council again.
I guess S. Fred was right…”People get the governemnt they deserve”. I hope you enjoy the politicians and the Chief you have.
Keep those hats on or you’ll be charged.
Punisher says
In response to “In the Know”,
Rules & Rugulations are an internal policy, however they are not a protected document and can be aquired through F.O.I.A./M.P.I.A.
The Anti-Gang and Anti-Drug Programs you and Yensen spoke of are also not protected documents.
Also not protected would be the other programs the Aberdeen Police Department doesn’t have like Homeland Security and Public School Safety.
The only protected documents the police department would posses would be personnel and Emergency Response Plans (ERP’S)
I thought I’d enlighten you since you don’t seem to know.
Thanks for restating my point.
vietnam vet says
Bic
I have too agree with you’ I have personally never met. mr denu. it was just by chance his trail’s crossed mine. he was working as a police officer for aberdeen.
he never likely’ new he made in a difference in the people’s live’s he touched
mostly people who were less fortunate in life. who more often than not ”fear” the police. a tough no nonsense officer’ who could display’ kindness humor.& a quite strength. and certainly a loss to the department. he would have made a fine marine officer.
& there looking for a few good men.
semper-fi
Brian says
Regarding Mayor Bennett’s alleged $14,000 Volunteer Dinner, the rumor from on high is that the entire event has just been called off. Take that for what it’s worth.
Punisher says
Brian,
It’s been my experience that when the heat is on, justified or not, Mike shuts down.
He needs to get some balls and use them.
In the Know says
What, Punisher speaking against Mayor Bennett?????? What happened to all the love you had for him?
BTW Punisher, if you are a policeman (as you stated here before) you would all ready have a copy (or access to) the rules and regulations. Or are the policeman that quit because you were afraid of an integrity investigation? Interesting.
Anyway, if you are the policeman you say you are, then post the rules and regulations (and any other documents) that you say are inaccurate or not up to date.
Oh, and you so hard on Mayor Bennett. Why? He had a difficult task; come into City Hall with a bunch of crybabies filling his ear with inaccurate information. Note: Just because he didn’t give what you wanted is no reason to bash the man. He just realized you were playing him.
Punisher says
Thanks again for restating my point…there is no reference to any of these “programs” in the rules and regs you and Yensen spoke of…can’t post what you dont’ have!
As for Mike. He’s a good guy, but when things get hot, he backs down for some reason. I nor anyone else asked him for anything and it wasn’t offered either…I have what I want.
As for “integrity investigations” is there one and why would I be afraid of it?
BTW I heard that a certai Sgt. was in the Legion causing such a fuss on Super Bowl Sunday…that they called the station several times and the police didn’t show up?
Investigate that integrity!
In the know says
If that’s the case, make a complaint down at the old station. Or better yet, go the Council President. (Wait, you already did). If it’s accurate, it’ll be be dealt with. If it’s not accurate, I’m sure the officer involved will seek civil relief. Punisher, did you witness this? Maybe you could stop into the PD and make the complaint. Do the right thing for a change.
But then again, it’s customary for Punisher to throw around anything that takes the heat off him.
vietnam vet says
mayor bennett came in as mayor. picked a transition team from all walks of life & then expected them to get a long. well it did’nt work.
depending on who’s view point your looking at.
mr bennett might be a nice guy” often as not nice ”guy’s loose. no doubt a state trooper in every’ respect.
except street smart’s. send me a man that’s tough ” intelligent” & street smart a leader among men. you don’t even have to like him. well guess what? were going by the ”book” continue that attitude & and you will wind up dead. a man that will be there when sh-t hit’s the fan. sorry he’s gone, because of some petty bull sh-t. rick denu gained the respect’ of the people of the street.& that my friend’s is very hard to do.
The Man says
Punisher,
I actually have to laugh at even calling you that because you’re more of a wanna-be. Your plan failed miserably and you “punished” no one. A couple of points, 1 SAD is not DS…his middle initial is W maybe you should have researched that a little more before you jumped to conclusions and started spouting off, 2 you’re talking out of school on your last post (as usual) about the Super Bowl complaint. It is yet another weak attempt to attack adversaries and has already begun to fall apart. It always amazes me how much people think they know and how little they actually do. Good luck with your attempt at Customs.
Hangin' Around says
The volunteer dinner was actually going to cost a hell of a lot more from what I hear. The City would invite the entire “transition Team” all of the volunteers, and all of their wives plus give them some memento. All told this would have been somewhere in the vicinity of 250 people (the las dinner 2 years ago had 100 volunteers, paid for by the City). Leave it to a hose beater to sole source the entire deal to the fire hall and have it catered by Art’s buddy form the Bistro. The entire Helton administration is beginning to fall apart. Count on Art to turn tail real soon and leave his puppet dangling.