Vandals armed with spray paint made not-so-subtle threats against the Aberdeen Police Department last night in the form of graffiti tagged on the S&S Market at 101 E. Bel Air Avenue.
The vandals wrote several statements along the lines of “F*** the Police” and “This is our city” and even referred to Aberdeen as “Sin City.”
But the taggers went a step further and painted “RIP: Reiber JR Helf”on the building as well. This appears to be a threat against officers Christopher Reiber, J.R. Adkins and Timothy Helf – all members the APD’s Rapid Response Team squad.
While pondering the seriousness of the graffiti and how APD will react to the implied threat against three of its officers, several other questions came to mind.
It’s hard to believe no one on the midnight patrol shift spotted the vandalism before the business opened in the morning. Does that mean no one patrolled E. Bel Air Avenue all night?
Secondly, and equally disturbing, what about the high-priced surveillance camera that sits right there and is displayed on a 46-inch television screen in Aberdeen Police Department dispatch 24 hours a day?
Perhaps the video footage can be rolled back and the perpetrators can be found before fulfilling the message they painted last night, but it must make for pretty low morale at APD to have threats against officers go unnoticed by patrol or camera surveillance.
Update 8:47 pm 8/5/08: Some of the graffiti is still present, while other sections appear to have been covered with a darker paint. There were people checking it out and talking, including at least one police officer.
Update 8/7/08: The leadership of the Harford County Municipal Fraternal Order of Police Lodge #128 issued a press release regarding the recent threatening graffiti found on East Bel Air Avenue. In the letter, the FOP calls the vandalism “extremely disturbing and inexcusable” and speaks directly to those who may have tagged the building by stating city residents should be “grateful for the proactive approach the police have taken.”
The full text of the press release is presented below:
August 7, 2008
Aberdeen, MD – The tagging/graffiti that was found to the rear of 101 E Bel Air Avenue in Aberdeen on August 5 is extremely disturbing and inexcusable. The police officers our lodge represent are dedicated to their respective municipalities in fighting crime, be it the traffic enforcement officer or the drug interdiction officer. The citizens of Aberdeen should be grateful for the proactive approach the police have taken over the past two years. The men and woman of the Aberdeen Police Department that our lodge represents took an oath to serve and protect. At times, this may mean an inconvenience however one should remember, these officers are doing their job to make the streets of Aberdeen safer for your children and you. The Harford County Municipal Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge #128 will push for appropriate charges should these vandals be caught. We will not tolerate any threat made against police officers and/or their families.
Jason Neidig – Acting President
Nice. Right near the school too. Maybe the bus riders will learn some new words this year…
wow a pre wa wa picture
My mistake…its there !
Go Dagger
It would appear the citizen’s, of aberdeen have little faith in the ability of our police department to perform there duty’s.they certainly’ catch there share of static. I under stand the sub shop beside s&s sell’s chicken.
Outrageous! Will someone be caught? Or will there be an over reaction and violations of civil rights? Hard to believe no midnight patrols in one of the “busy” areas of town. Morale must really be bad.
The message is one thing…the grafatti is another……
Both suck
Go Dagger
I don’t think there will be a trampling’ of civil right’s. as I recall one of our not so well thought of police officers. who is now long gone.made a remark while rideing shotgun. a call was received by them to respond to a call the officer who was eating “chicken” refused to budge. hopefully it was not a 911 call.
viet….only in the land of the free…..
God bless whats left of america….so sad.
go dagger.
I hope somone took some real good pics of the messages before desocrating them…the tags and such may give a hint as to who or why they were done.
Why did they leave it up all day? One would think something like that would’ve been covered up right away. Guess who ever did it got the effect they were looking for.
I agree passer by. gang related graffiti’ police threat’s etc should be removed as soon as possible,we don’t want the folk’s of brac thinking’ there comeing in to a bad area.
but in the same token. it would appear the boy’s in blue.are discourageing drug traffic in the area. too such a degree.there trying to ”scare” the police away.
Its called tagging, its all over the city, not just on the east side, it is up to the store owner to cover it up. any one drive by any of the schools or The target store it has been tagged several times, take a look at the great train station also.
I think maybe we should raise Taxes and start a anti graffiti unit, with high pressure paint remover guns!!
Why did the police wait to spray paint over it until late yesterday afternoon? And, if the police are doing their jobs in that particular neighborhood why didn’t anyone (or any camera) find it before the store owner opened in the morning? Sounds more to me like no one patrolled the area at all.
It only takes a few seconds and its up to the store owner to video his property…the major issue is the threats…are they credible?
Go Dagger !
Who ever did it has threaten the lives of police officers…Im sure many viewed it in person in the investigative phase…for signature markings ect.
Go Dagger !
if it’s vandalism of private property, the police aren’t responsible for painting over it–the owner is. if a policeman did see it on his patrol, what could he do at that point besides alerting the owner in the morning when the store opened? the owner would then have to file a report.
i know for a fact that the police patrol that area. when i take the late train home during the week (it gets in around 10) the whole east side is crawling with cops.
the offensive parts of the graffitti were covered the next day. it didn’t take months, and the school nearby is not yet in session. are you really outraged by it taking sooooo long?
I don’t think the graffiti is taken serouisly’ until something is said about it.. no doubt the work of kid’s.or wanna be gang member’s. north deen. skate board park became a prized area for graffiti. so did the end unit’s of the town houses. regardless it’s vandalism.which mean’s momey’s baby’s are still running loose to do mischief.
nameing name’s, is over stepping the limit’s. a threat that a police officer should could consider hazardous to his health. I agree with sgt budnick. they are taken it seriously.
Who spray painted over the offensive graffiti on the former mayor’s Route 40 billboard last year?
which graffiti, which time? state farm owns those signs, not the agent anyway. so if…say…the agent were to write on them himself…that would technically be vandalism also.
THATS WAT THEY GET STOP BOTHERIN INNOCENT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE ANGRY AND READY TO LASHH OUT THIS CRAP HAS BEEN GOING ON 2 LONG
That’s what who gets? The police or the shopowners that had their place of business vandalized?
As a resident of Aberdeen, and having a son-in-law employed with APD, I have had the opportunity to ride. I can tell you, the officers are all over the City and it is hard to catch the criminal at night with low light and the cover of darkness.
What is more amazing from reading these post is, blame the police officers…question civil rights. What is overlooked is the seriousness of the threats and no one cares. Secondly, thank you to all you civil rights supporters…the criminal has more rights than law abiding citizens…why the USA is the way it is, and Aberdeen City.
The vandilism is one thing…the threat is another….shop owner is responsible for the vandilism reporting…and the threat is just that…a threat….
Two different things.
Go Dagger !!!
I had to weigh in on this one. I have trained, supervised and most importantly worked closely with all three officers victimized by these threats; not mention many others before and many more to come.
These threats are the direct result of the relentless effort those and other officers expend on law enforcement and not the cameras or gun toting cowboy Mayors of past present or future, but yes the officers on the street who ensure all of you sleep well at night while they do not.
RichieC made the most accurate statement here. ” credibility of the threats” and “what is being done to investigate them”. I can’t agree more. Someone great said, ” We never know what evil lies in the hearts of man,” Even more true, which equates to each and every threat should be reported, investigated, documented and punished where possible.
Interestingly enough, I had proposed some four or more years ago that a shift from the Administrations view, “Aww, It’s just part of the your job” attitude toward a policy and practice of running these issues into the ground. So, on the heels of many threats against me, my family and many other officers, I produced a standard operating procedure that would initiate the reporting of threats against officers, the assigning of those responsible for investigating and establishing a written records of the incident and further to prosecute these criminals and or provide civil protections for the officers. I then forwarded that policy through he chain of command to Captain Cox who endorsed it and he in turn fowarded it to the Chief Rudy who also endorsed it and made the final decision to adopt. The Captain however returned it to me for corrections as it was “too wordy, shorten it up”. So I did and returned it in its less “wordy” format for adoption. print and implementation. Oddly enough, that never happened and surprised I allowed it to pass.
Something I can not understand is why this policy and procedure was approved, but never carried forward in ernest. My thoughts that motivated me to work so very hard to establish this absent tool was that of protection for my fellow officers and secondly that of the civil protections it would offer the agency.
Example: Scumbag X routinely threatens Officer Y and his family over a period of time. Officer Y despite the lack of concern by the Aministration stays alert to Scumbag X who at a later date engages Officer Y who promptly defends himself and shoots Scumbag X. Scumbag X lives and later sues Officer Y and the City (You in essentially) Officer Y meanwhile endures an internal investigation, but is not supported by documented incidents of past; a sort of he said he said. Meanwhile the City Attorney is working the civil grind and again has not documented instances of past and finds himself in a losing position which you the tax payer will pay for.
Was or is it prudent that our overpaid Chief failed to initiate this policy and procedure himself, bound by the moral issue of protecting his men, women, the agency and you the taxpayer?
I have my answer, I’ll challenge you to find yours.
Trice…tell us what your talkin about….we are listening !
Go Dagger !
Rick…well said..documentation…documentation…documentation……..it tells a story. Lesson learned…..!!
Documentation, set procedure, and policey that are memorialized in writing are your best friends ! Its basic…..some shy away from it for various reasons ….but a well run orginizattion embraces it.
Go Dagger !!!!
Tricee,
I don’t understand your post.
Is what you said is that innocent persons are tired of the police doing their job and so they (the “innocent”) spray paint threats against the police on the wall of some one elses property?
If what I’m receiving from you was correct, perhaps a review of right, wrong, innocent , threats and mailicious destruction of property is at hand.
Oh and I hate to say I told ya so (as if so many didn’t already know), The camera system was/is the most expensive and poorly crime reduction tool I have seen implemented by Barney and Andy. You can assign the names to the latter two…
Trice..
…I’ll say it again…tell us what your talkin about…..lets hash it out…see what the deal is…benifit of the doubt here…no pre dispositions…state your beef…you may learn somthin…we may learn somthing !
Go Dagger !
Here’s a link to the Baltimore Sun article on the incident, 2 days after it was reported here on The Dagger:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/harford/bal-md.ha.threataug07,0,1403036.story
people we have and excuse. there was a storm that may have ”knocked” the camera out of commision.
LEAVE THE POLICE ALONE RAISE YOUR OWN KIDS ITS NOT THERE JOB THEY DO ENOUGH!!!!!!!
PARENTS SHOULD TEACH THERE KIDS A LIL MORE RESPECT. AND WHATS UP WITH THESE LIL GANG PEOPLE JOIN THE ARMY IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT TO SOMETHING USEFUL
GO APD!!!!
and another thing, CITIZENS, IF YOUR TIRED OF OVERLY ZEALOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT WHY DONT YOU PUT ON A UNIFORM AND DO WHAT THEY DO YOU WOULDNT LAST A WEEK I WATCHED MY FATHER DO IT EVERYDAY FOR YEARS AND SAW HOW HIS JOB AFFECTED HIM AND OUR FAMILY YOU ALL WOULDNT LAST 24HRS STOP TRIPPIN AND HELP THEM. THEY DONT GET SUPPORT JUST GRIEF IF IT TOOK THEM 20MIN TO GET ACROSS TOWN BECAUSE THEY STOPPED AT THE RED LIGHTS THAT THE CITIZENS SAY THEY DONT STOP OUT OR THEY WERE EATING AND TOOK TO LONG MY NEIGHBORS DOG IS STILL BARKING. MAYBE AS ADULTS TRY AND HANDLE OUR OWN PROBLEMS FIRST THEN HAVE THEM HELP YOU OUT. AND HOW BOUT A SIMPLE THANK YOU WHEN THEY DO HELP YOU.
I can recall’ some issue’s. when I became a states witness, against a child molester. I was told the family’ would be protected. well they were not. he did his time. and came back confronting us. at our home. setting in his car curseing threatning to shoot the wife and & kid’s.
I was told by the porter admin. ( apd retired chief) theres nothing we can do until he commit’s a nother crime. the officers I spoke to at that time I trusted. they did the best they could under the circumstances. with out the support of the chief..
the felon died several month’s later of a heart attack. I have no qualms’ thanking the officer’s of aberdeen for agood job well done.
TO VIETNAM VET:
I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN, MY HOUSE WAS SHOT UP TWICE BY LOVEY CRIMINALS WHOM MY FATHER HAD HELPED PUT AWAY. IT WAS NOT FUN HAVING POLICE DROP YOU OFF AT SCHOOL. IT DOES HURT WHEN THEY HAVE NO SUPPORT AND IT DOES HURT WHEN THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH BUT IT MEANS THE WORLD TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE OTHER THAN THERE FAMILIES WHO ARE AT HOME PRAYING THEY MAKE IT HOME SAY THANK YOU AND JOB WELL DONE. I WANTED TO PUCK WHEN I HEARD OF HOW ANGRY PEOPLE WERE BECAUSE THEY SHUT DOWN ROADS FOR BEEBES FUNERAL PROCESSION, THEY JUST DONT GET IT
So what is being done to address the policy issue?
Nothing as before… Why are we even paying this Chief…he hasn’t accomplished one thing since the implemenatation of his BS “Community Policing Plan” when he some 7+ years ago… leader he is nor I can assure you.
It’s long past due for some real leadership in the police department, but unfortunately that decision is left to the elected officials of which some are doing nothing!
The leadership of the Harford County Municipal Fraternal Order of Police Lodge #128 issued a press release regarding the recent threatening graffiti found on East Bel Air Avenue. In the letter, the FOP calls the vandalism “extremely disturbing and inexcusable” and speaks directly to those who may have tagged the building by stating city residents should be “grateful for the proactive approach the police have taken.”
The full text of the press release is presented here:
http://www.daggerpress.com/2008/08/05/threats-against-aberdeen-police-officers-spray-painted-on-city-market/
proactive as meaning? lack of leadership.becomeing and individual unit separated from it’s parent unit.
Tired citizen..your caps lock is stuck.
Ritchie..Tricee is not gonna answer you. i think that she/he/it is out on the streets taggin another building.
Here is what i have observed:
1) The taggers can not spell.
2) The taggers have no artistic ability
3) It’s time to take out the trash.
Melissa,
You left out #4…they’re COWARDS!
Mr. Riley,
You are so right. i have a few other choice words for them..but will bite my tongue
I think these clowns have no idea what they are in for. If APD operates like most agencies, the heat is about to be turned WAY up. If the bad guys thought they were being harassed before…they ain’t seen nothing yet.
mr pike. we have such thing’s as civil right’s. for law abideing citizen’s. if it just happen’s to be late night’ I’am not impartial to cracking some head’s. 99% percent of the time. it’s the criminal’ that squeam’s his right’s are being violated. so turn up’ the heat. as the young lady said. it’s time too take out the trash.
OK now, let’s recap. Useless trash tagged a private building in the dark of night. The tag named three tough officers who have been doing a great job. The police, themselves, apparently painted over the remark. The building is private property, belonging to an Aberdeen citizen and leased by a hard working family as a grocery store. Now here’s where it gets tricky – according to MR DENU the chief of police is guilty of something and this proves that the camera system doesn’t work. Does anyone else have any trrouble with the logic in that?
Interestingly the one officer who supported Denu the hardest and hated the administration the worst, is now back hat in hand begging to work with the fines police force in the State.
No one will catch the scumbags who tagged the store. The only way to catch cowards like that is to see them doing a\it and grab them. Yes the ploice should take the threat seriously and while observing the rules of civel liberty and all the other politically correct crap, do whatever is needed to hold the crime to a minimum.
Written documents don’t help with crime prevention, getting off the rusty dusty and getting into the middle of it does.
Greeting’s Dave. who is trying to reinlist at the p.d.? I think it’s apparent the 3 mentioned men are stepping on toe’s.that area has been a known drug area for a long time.
we do have law abideing citizen’s in that area that I’am sure are gratefull that police are in that area. if we recall s. fred was approached in that area. if they think there that bad maybe they wil be foolish enough to come out of hideing and approach the mentioned 3
Dave,
Your ittelect is overwhelming, especially in an arena where you have absolutely no expertise!
Thanks for stating the obvious in much of your post, however the camera system has yielded little to no quantifiab;e results for its more than $150, 000 dollar investment and still that project remains unguided, unfunded and unused! If I’m mistaken here, please demonstrate to me and the other tax paying citizens what they’re getting for their dollar!
Secondly, he Chief is guilty of sitting on his ass and doing little to nothing to develop the agency, keep pace with crime trends and keep pace with the market and environment which other officers around the country do!
And yes, while it’s true paper wont become animate its self, those printed works couple with leadership that operates of those words, become action and protection…”gettin off the old dusty” won’t protect the officer or the agency during civil litigation or a give cause we’re beaten payoff by the city’s insurance agency which we are all to accustomed to!
If what I’m stating out of long term experience and much expertise is not so, then why do agencies have Standard Operating Policies, Training, Rules and Regulations, Etc… Aside from police agencies any sucessful organization operates on these principles.
As for the officer “begging” back hat in hand, Dave you are so wrong again. There was no begging, but a simple asking. That officer left because he wanted LEOPS and to depart from the “environment”. What he found was a worse internal environment that was not worth the twenty five year stay. You see some feel trapped in an environment of trash and others know who and where trash to part from, hence my leaving APD and side stepping you as far as I could.
It’s obvious that you should stick to helecopters and AFLAC, you’re good at that.
Sincerely…
Part II,
Dave if you want to embarrass your self again by talking out of school and not supporting your statements by facts realting to the Chief’s performance than quit while you can.
The Cheif has implemented nothing since his first three years… “Community Policing” the paper tiger you mentioned earlier…
COPS in SCHOOLS…not his idea or funding…
Pay Parity…not his idea or funding…
SWAT…not his idea or funding…
RRT…not his idea and funded by using existing numbers of officers…not adding…
Evidence Tech…more of the same….
New Rules & Regs..not his idea and pirated from another agency…original…
Bike Patrols…not his idea or funding…
Camera system…not his idea or funding…
My fingers are tired or I’d go on and on…
ALl he’s been good at is fooling the one term elected officials (or at least one enough) to hold onto his job instead of providing his men and women with some real leadership!
Oh by the way, you mentioned that ” these cowards won’t be caught unless you see them doing it” Did you know that post incident investigations by competent police officers and investigators lead to the largest majority of arrests and convictions? What were you saying that my fellow police officers are not good enough or smart enough to catch criminals without falling on them or watching a camera reel? It sure came off that way!
The great works of APD are not him and seldom anyone above the rank of Sgt., it’s the majority of good men and women struggling with what little they have and comin up roses.
Jason,
Great statement, act of leadership and brotherhood.
It’s a crying shame the Cheif didn’t make the statement as well.
As usual the tail waggin the dog…thank God for the FOP…we’d be worst off without it.
Melissa…noone can say he didnt get his chance…..
Go Dagger
Rick;
My point was and is, that the subject here is about a tag on a building, which may or may not be a direct threat on three good officers. All of the stuff about cameras and the competence of the chief, former Mayor and/or former Council persons is completely irrelevant. Your hatred for the three folk and camera system is well known. The fact that there is no middle ground with you is well known. The fact that yo have a personal axe to grind is well known. The problem is that none of that has anything to do with the subject at hand.
Back to basics: The tag was placed on the side of the privately owned grocery store. The camera is rendered irrelevant to the discussion because it is on the exact opposite side of the building and could not possibly have any view or site of the crime. Good police work, by competent officers will solve crimes (we do agree on something!) The problem is that hand writing analysis, fingerprinting, DNA evidence, etc is not the stuff of gang tags. If any evidence was there I have no doubt that Mark found it and will use it to advantage.
You lost your battle. Go find another war to fight, this windmill won.
Rick,
Again you appear in a blog to talk the same trash………You are no longer with APD. Please go away and stop embarrasing yourself. Same ole song……….everyone is tired of hearing it. November was so long ago now and this current admin has proven to be a mess. Let it go!!!!
Now on with the topic………………….
Isay put a sub station in that area…a work room…a police lounge…a police car wash…somthing…any thing to make a police presence…..in fact…make it a ralayeeing point….saturation presence….a police hang out…with and for all the departments…dod depts …the railroad depts…ect ect ect.
Can anyone answer this rhetorical question…how many police departments work that area on a normal bassis. Enough of this…we got a zillion cops when and if we work together…! Use them like a frikkin d-day to that neighborhood and clean it out.
I agree with Mr Yansen that the camera and the Chief are irrelevante to this thread. But I also agree with Mr Denu about the Chief’s lack of leadership ability and credibility. Maybe someone should another thread.
I work right on rt 40 and I see the police chief everyday……………That’s more than any other police chief of most towns. He is either riding a bike on patrol or talking to citizens. He has always been very easy to approach and from conversations very intelligent. I’m impressed with Aberdeen’s police chief….He has been the best we’ve had and I’ve lived here 30yrs.
Personally I think the Chief is out of control. He has a political agenda and he doesn’t care about anything or anybody but himself. He would purposefuly head-hunt political targets within the police department. He did it for Simmons and he does it now for Elliott and Bennett.
I have herd that now the Chief is turning on everyone. Only scared people do things like that. Could his days be comming to an end?
The real SAD thing about it (pun intended) is that everyone at the PD knows the Chief has lost all credibility. His own men mock him and openly ridicule his policies and actions at their roll calls. The problem is that APD is in need of a complete culture change and without replacing all the leadership, that will never happen.
HEY RITCHIE C WHY DONT YOU APPLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT! WHY DONT YOU GO HELP ANSWER THE THOUSANDS OF CALLS THEY GET FROM DOGS BARKING TO MY MOMS BOYFRIENDS BEATN HER UP AGAIN I NEED HELP. LETS SEE YOU EAT A 7-11 HOT DOG IN 2.5 SECONDS, OR HOW BOUT THE SAME OLD 911 HANG UPS. WHY DONT THE PARENTS AND ADULTS THAT LIVE OVER THERE IN “THERE CITY” AS THEY CALL IT HELP CLEAN UP, PICK UP SOME TRASH IN PUT IT IN A TRASH CAN, GET THERE KIDS INVOLVED IN ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN WHAT THERE INVOLVED IN WHAT HAPPENED TO FAMILY TIME AND RESPECT OF AUTHORITY!! WHY DONT THE COMMUNITY QUIT BEIN CRY BABIES AND HELP OUT OVER THERE. ITS EASIER TO POINT A FINGER THAN TO HELP SOMEONE. I WAS SICK TO SEE ABERDEEN ON THE NEWS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING TALKED ABOUT LIKE THEY WERE. THE PEOPLE THE NEWS INTERVIEWED OMG WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!! WE DONT HAVE A ZILLION COPS !!!!! GO LOOK AT THE WEBSITE LOOK AT THERE STATS FOR EACH MONTH!!!! JES WHATS THE MATTER WITH PEOPLE YOU CAN POINT THE FINGER EASY BUT COULD YOU DO THERE JOB
IF THEY WERE TO PUT EVERYTHING OVER THERE ON THE EAST SIDE PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN THEY HANG OUT THERE TO MUCH. THERES NO REAL ONE SOLUTION PEOPLE. THIS WHOLE THING DRIVES ME CRAZY I GET TIRED OF SEEING DENU ON HERE JUST STOP FOR A MINUTE PEOPLE LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOUR SEEING. LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. STOP POINTIN FINGERS, STOP SAYING WHAT THEY SHOULD DO GET OFF THERE BACKS. YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO SIT HOME ON CHRISTMAS AND HOPE YOUR DAD/MOM MAKES IT HOME FOR CHRISTMAS SO THEY CAN OPEN UP THERE GIFTS YOU GOT THEM. NO YOU DONT!!! PRAYING THAT THE VEST THAT THERE ISSUED KEEPS THEM SAFE TO SEE ANOTHER SHIFT. HAVE YOU EVER MET THE FAMILIES OF POLICE OFFICERS NO YOU HAVENT SO STOP IT, THERES ALWAYS GOING TO BE DRUGS THERES ALWAYS GOING TO BE GANGS ITS NEVER GOING AWAY, THEY APD ARE DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN
FYI- the cameras are pointed on the other side of the building. Therefore, they would not have been able to see the criminals.
tired…you missed my point totaly…so ill discount your reply…as it wasnt related to my statement.
Go Dagger !
And I dont point fingers !…………..
Since I didnt get an answer Ill answer it and you guys can correct me if im wrong….
1. aberdeen police
2. HC sherrifs dept
3. APG mil police
4. DOD police
5. Amtrack Police
6. Norfolk Southern police
7. Md State police.
…..And Im sure a few more….
Ever hear of overlapping Jurisdiction…ask for help….make a presence…put a portable substation in and ask for …invite others to use it…breaks…paperwork…. Pee Pee…it’s called….PRESENCE>>>PRESENCE…not excuses.
This would make it uncomfortable for the benee heads that think gang rule rules…thug rule rules…..
Your officers have had their lives threatened…by name…dont you get it….!!!!
Go Dagger !!
8. Dnr police..(they have no problem ticketing anyone who catches a fish in a crik)…so why not invite them to use it…make a presence….
Go Dagger
The last Rudy wants is for his officers to have a presence. Not with this mayor. The first complaint that comes in, that officer would be sent to the slaughter. Best thing to do is to act like it never happened. That way no one will get upset.
you got too love the ”dagger” it changes like the weather.issue or not the camera set the tax payer up for some big buck’s! & and it’s useless! we could have taken the money’ hired one or more police officers or improved there equipment & or training.
it’s just common sense to patrol, and area abit more when there known drug activity in those location’s. the druggies are getting nervous. they could be next.or maybe we could afford to pay a little more over time. just too watch the dealers squirm.
I DO APOLOGIZE RICHIE C BUT AGAIN IF THERE WERE TO PUT IT THERE, AND STAYED LONGER THAN THE EAST SIDE CITIZENS THINK THEY SHOULD STAY THEYD BITCH ABOUT THAT. AND YES THOSE OTHER AGENCY’S DO PATROL I HATE TO TELL YOU THE ONLY ONES I EVER SEE ARE HARFORD COUNTY AND A[PD PATROLLY THAT AREA AND EATING AT MS JOHNSONS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN APG POLICE OFF POST, NEVER SEEN DOD NOR WHEN I HAVE BEEN AT AMTRAK SEEN ONE OF THEM, SO AS I SAID THOSE LOVELY PEOPLE LIVING OVER THERE IN THE HOMES AROUND THE EAST TIME HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON THERE HANDS, DONT WATCH THERE KIDS, DONT DO ANYTHING. ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS SIT AND BLAME THE POLICE AND WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE THEM HAVE A SUB STATION SO THEY COULD BLAME THEM 10X MORE SO BRIGHT IDEA, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NUMBER WISE ARE IN ABERDEEN AND HCSO? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE ON A SHIFT? YOU WANT TO PUT A SUB STATION AND OTHER TAX PAYERS WILL COMPLAIN BOUT THE MONEY THEY PUT OUT OR THEY ARE THERE TOO LONG BLAH BLAH BLAH, THIS WHOLE THING IS A WIN LOOSE SITUATION. I JUST HOPE THE ” ARTISTS’ TAKE UP ART/WRITING CLASS BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT DRAW THEY CAN NOT SPELL AND THEY CANT SHOW THERE FACE, HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO MS JOHNSONS DURING THE DAY LIL KIDS AS YOUNG AS 3 ARE IN THE STREETS WHERE ARE THERE PARENTS SITTIN ON THERE BUTTS IN THERE YARDS? DO THEY MAKESURE THEY ARENT IN THE ROAD HELL NO THERE YELLIN AT YOU FOR ALMOST HITTIN THERE KIDS WHO ARE IN THE STREETS WITH NO SUP
AND MELISSA I AM SORRY I LIKE USING CAPS I TYPE FASTER AND IM REALLY NOT YELLIN I SWEAR SORRY FOLKS
a large area of the east side was sold to mostly low income family’s some rental property. some belonging to ( steve johnson) who is or was and auxiliary on aberdeen p.d.
he most certainly has interest in the going’s on in that area. he is not a man to tolerate drug activity. a side from the fact there is and elementary school very close by. there was hope it would bring the area in to being a part of the city rather than being known as the poor side of town.
I worked that area for many years’ And can attest there are some good honest people liveing there.
they are going too have too stand & report drug activity. & support there police.
Citizen…your most gracious apoligy is of course accepted…and thank you…your a BIG person for stepping up …if we did it more when we mistake somones point or speak too soon we would all be better off…THANK YOU….
As We all relize there are solutions that dont take an act of congress…..simply getting off our collective asses…..if a crime ridden area is got elements that have grown so brazen thatthey are willing to threaten police by name…theres a problem. Thats an open decloration of war.,..as a departmernt aberdeen must have allies in close proximity departments….and the call to armes made. This push does not mean the the other side of town is going to loose anything. as the presense…is multi departmernt. Its not impossible and its not unheard of.
Go Dagger !
I am sure I will get some “heat” from this comment, maybe a little support however here it is. As Jason Neidig, acting President of the FOP said, the citizens of Aberdeen should be thankful for the proactive approach to law enforcement.” Our police in Aberdeen do a great job. I am sure, like everywhere there are some lazy officers but for the most part, there are a good group of woman and men. They do a outstanding job with the tools they are provided. The citizens of Aberdeen need to unite and stand together, not tolerate the behavior of the gangs and criminals. The problem however is, the “loud mouths” who want to complain blame everyone else but their selfs when their children are arrested or questioned about drugs, gang activity, and crime. One should not be offended when pulled up by the police but thankful they are out doing their job…preventing crimes. The police don’t know you, you don’t know them…even the most looking honest person can be the most deceiving.
I’am inclined to believe s,fred ( ex mayor) put some effort in to aggressive policeing.but then we have law’s protecting the criminal. The first to ” scream” there right’s are being violated.
it’s not the tax payer on the corner’ at midnight. it’s trouble.
Your very welcome for the apology. Threats against the police go thru me I HATE IT. my dads retired thank god, the lil so called artist on the east side need to give it up. the parents either need to stop having kids there not going to raise or deal with there kids getting busted by the police, this is totally unexceptable. and as for the lil artists aberdeen is NOT YOUR CITY> its the tax payers city, its the citizens that work and beat good sense into those mouthly lil kids and to channel 11 news interview people that want to show there face and actually NO what is going on over there and not the people who see police lights and run out side and say but in other people buisness!! I SUPPORT THE LOCAL POLICE!!!!!
That part of Abeerdeen is different from the rest of Aberdeen. You dont have to pass through it as a rule to get to the malls or to 95. You are ether going to it or coming from it…its unique in this nature.
JNT and Jason are 100% correct. The police in this City are excellent and that comes from within the department. There have been rough patches, and there will be more but these guys and gals are trying there best to be professional. We had a few loud mouths who knew far better than anyone how to do the job. They are gone. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Dave thanks for recounting S Fred and yourself in truth…”a few loud mouths who knew far better than anyone how to do the job. They are gone. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Now moving along and again Dave made the point which show the fools they were…”the camera is placed on the opposite side of the building” hence one of two inanimate blobs hanging in space with no use at all. Perhaps another officer as I suggested funded instead of those useless “oracles” to augment our aggresive patrols, ie: RRT or somethng of the like would have been a beneficial “legacy” that could have been left.
Leadership is the key, we don’t have it, as is resonated among posts of citizen and officers alike. The Chief and a few other lying and cheating personnel along with him.
The Mayor and Council need the wisdom and action of its citizenry to get back on track..exercise your voice.
p.s. and a smal one at that…no Dave I have no hatred toward you Fred the Chief nor any others there… just distain for Bureaucrats like yourself who malign our political system.
GO RRT!
GO APD!
GO FOP!
GO GO FOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So let me hear a response plan…not political rhetoric…. from dave and rick…what immediate response…tactic…method..that wont blow back…should be the response to thugs that are gonna threaten police by name. I dont want to hear anything except on the street response….not city hall politics.
Go Dagger !
How bout a zero tolorance policey…worked in NY !
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RichieC,
I would have adopted a policy into action plan that dealt with these situation a long time ago…being threatened is not just “part of a police officers job”!
I would have instituted an electronic crime mapping system available to all the officers all the time…information is power in this business and it is presently so unavailable or compartmentalized that it’s of no use other than counting the number of tickets or arrests an officer has made!
Armed with the information above…I would shift resources the areas where there is an identified need and minimize the resources in areas that do not warrant it, but until stabilization is reached. A proactive policing is what’s needed in most situations, but is not the end all be all.
In this instance ideas such as:
Identifying locally where paint is sold to observe video of recent purchases and to also work with retailers on a sales policy that prevents it’s sale to minors whom are the largest portion of the demographic that comprises “Taggers” and “Gang” members.
Institute deliberate patrols during the times when tagging (in this region) is committed, ie: dark, to lawfully stop and investigate persons withing the identified areas subject to these crimes to search for evidence and or evidence of patterns of crimes associated with patterns of persons.
The use of querying community members, business owners and Informants regarding this type of or related activity and then move forward with the results.
Schools are another excellent venue to seek out “Taggers” and “Gang” members. They love to practice their “skills” on books, notebooks and other school property. Law Enforcement, Teachers and School Administartors should be very attune and trained to identify objects as more than mere doodling.
… I’ll go on but I’m out of time for now…
Dave. I know you need some time to get you answers from someone.
Actually I’d use the real professionals and let the peons actually get out and work. Hanger flying never accomplished much either.
Proverbs 18:12
Is everything on that wall…from the pics…whats in question? I see a recurring theme…does anyone else see it?
Go Dagger !
Let’s back up a few versus New Resident…..
The Lord is a mighty tower
where his people can run
for safety—
11 the rich think their money
is a wall of protection.
AND then there is…
12 Pride leads to destruction;
humility leads to honor.
they call me a narc in my neighborhood i dont care i feel safe at night knowing i helped get crap outta there so the kids can play since everyone else is scared of criminals im NOT and WONT TOLERATE THERE CRAP BUNCH OF LIL SISSYS WITH GUNS LIL PUNKS NEED THERE BUTTS SPANKED BUTT THEYLL GET THAT IN JAIL LOL ISUPPORT POLICE I WILL CALL THEM WHEN YOUR IN THE WRONG I DONT CARE WHAT MY PEOPLE THINK OF ME, now people know right from wrong why do people call for there neighbors trash cans blowin over in there yard just go pick it up, or when there dogs bark to much help them with a solution if people could get along things would be easier i may want to live in a fairy tale world but it can be done
Yensan
leave DENU alone, have you ever been a cop? what exactly is it that you do, have you ever done a ride along? please inlighten me SIR as I am a female and i think your pickin at him to make yourself look good and frankly i dont think you two should be arguin like this, instead you should work together and find a solution QUIT POINTIN FINGERS IT WASTES TIME
DENU thank you for your years of service, job well done
Tired….
good for you…you got B**’S to stand up for whats right, and not the flow.
The politics of policing and policey is not somthing that should be decided on the street…..thats for city hall.
We have a tendancy to mix the two. Good discussion and debate confuse the rank and file (foot soldiers) when the debate is DONE IN THE FIELD DURING BATTLE. This makes their job harder. Isnt their job hard enough? Does anyone disagree with that statement?
I too am a narc of sorts in HdG…although its with different issues and have been attacked for it……things have to change, attitudes have to change…I’m with ya….keep up the good fight.
Lets not discount input from anyone …. lets keep it intelligable by not clouding it with political rhetoric. I see many good points and counter points made from many that are lost in the noise of this rhetoric. When this happens all is lost!
Go Dagger !
Ps…still very little input here from HdG……the wall of silence is astounding!
Go Dagger !
In reading the FOP release I see it mentions vandells with minor mention of the threat………I would ask the lodge to publicly state that it recognises the threat ….by name as the greater issue….and will push for charges of threatening an officer (sic) if the taggers are found.
THANKS RitchieC
I am a young woman, and I have seen and heard enough crap and watched the police force get crapped on for tooooooo long both HCSO and APD. Officers being bashed because of those who choose not to do his or her jobs.
I am not a narc by choice I just pretty much was given the name in high school because of my dad, I always listened to both sides of the stories and I am so glad JOSEPH MEADOWS IS NOW SELLING FURNITURE!!!! Thank god for Jessie , I dont know Randy Rudy personally, I have seen him on the street and never acknowledge, now if he didnt speak to me I wonder how he treats just the OFC’s of aberdeen????? If someone is selling/dealing/and making my neighborhood a ghetto its my buisness Im in my twentys and I dont have time for this shit, and I really wish that people would stick together and quit being lazy and help the police out there not that bad, selling drugs is an easy living for lazy people who dont want to take the time to do something and when you threating the police and not showing your face you have no balls, law enforcement will forever be my family I support them 100%
for the people who keep pickin at Denu for voicing his opinon sit down shut up and let the police do what they do best its obvious you dont have the balls to do what they do on a daily basis
tired citizen hopes everone thinks about these threats and prayers for the officers who are out everynight when you lay your heads down, there protecting us, they are human just like us, they have families just like us, they love, laugh, win some and loose sum,
You should take the time to sit and talk with them and listen to the horror stories they have, what they’ve seen, its sad what they have to see,
to APD and retired APD thanks for all you do, thank you isnt enough I pray for each and everyone of you