From the Harford County Sheriff’s Office:
On December 12, 2012 at 7pm two black males entered the McDonald’s at 404 Constant Friendship Blvd. in Abingdon. Suspect #1 was a black male, 5’8”, wearing a black hooded jacket or sweater , a black beanie style cap and black gloves. Suspect #2 was a black male, 6’, wearing all black with white/gray work gloves, and a black beanie style hat. After demanding cash the suspects then fled the store in a white Chevy Impala.
Anyone with investigative information regarding the individual depicted in the photo is encouraged to contact Detective Tammy Burns of the Harford County Sheriff’s Office at 410-836-5043
Anyone with information regarding the crime who wishes to remain anonymous may report their information through the following methods listed below. Qualifying tips submitted to the tip lines below that lead to a conviction may be eligible for up to $ 2,000.00 in rewards.
Website/Email: Submit a tip online at http://www.harfordsheriff.org/wanted
Text message: Metro Crime Stoppers: Text “CRIMES” (274637)
Begin the message “MCS,” then add the information.
Phone: Harford Crime Solvers: Call 1-888-540-8477
Help us help you says
a persons walk and or gait is almost as unique as a finger print. When are you going to start releasing video clips and not just screen shots. Please help us help you.
What is Going On? says
Is it just me or does it seem like that while the cops are so busy in revenue generation mode lately, the crime in this county is just out of control. There seem to be robberies everywhere, everyday. I’d like to volunteer the duputy who sits at the corner of my street all day long writing nuisance tickets to transfer to the investigative unit. You won’t be missed. I know it is a lot safer writing stay at home moms tickets for signal use, than fighting criminals, but your time is needed in investigations. Full disclaimer, neither my wife or I have been written a ticket in 20 years.
AndyRooneysFerociousEyeBrows says
Any business can be robbed at any moment so that officer being assigned to investigations wouldn’t help. The reason you see crime increasing is that the economy is declining, the impoverished neighborhoods of harford county expanding, and prescription drug abuse becoming more prevalent. Unfortunately, very few armed robberies are ever solved because the identity of the suspect is concealed, they steal cash from business that obviously don’t know the serial numbers of their bills, and forensic evidence is next to zero because the entire general public has access to the crime scene. While you were sitting here commenting on that officer sitting at the end of your street, we were organizing the hundreds of requests from citizens asking us to sit at the end of theirs.
L6125Z says
I guess that makes you a major part of the problem Andy. Being in active military, I am constantly moving my family around so I have seen all parts of the country. In other jurisdictions where criminal activity is a priority, these types of crimes are solved and in some cases prevented by very aggressive community policing. I have to admit in my Maryland assignment, I have NEVER seen so many police officers doing traffic enforcement. My neighbor said the day I moved in to watch out for the cops because they are 100% focused on writing tickets. I had asked about the best route to work. I think the second poster on here has figured it out and obviously the criminals have too. Maybe you should get your rear end out of the office and on the street because it is obvious to me that you have too much time on your hands if you are sitting in the police station reading and responding to on line news stories.
BCPD says
Oh, here we go again with the “Active Military” who move all over and make functional relationships with each police department and know their Standard Operating Procedures in and out…
Community Policing only works if you have the budget for it, and each district has it’s own “take” on Community Policing. On many military installations, including APG and FGGM, Community Policing is found in the form of an officer setting up shop in a vacant set of quarters, putting a sign in the front yard, and giving out crayons and coloring books to kids in the neighborhood. Sure they may attend a community meeting or two, but in all reality it is just a way to get federal dollars to the department.
In contrast, a civilian police department has some stiffer and a bit more reality to deal with. With the average being one officer to roughly 100 square miles (or more), it is hard enough to staff an entire shift, let alone be everywhere the public believes that they should be.
So to take issue with your obviously ignorant post, here goes:
1. Each district is different, what may have worked in Minot, ND does not work for Maryland…or whever else you moved your family across CONUS to keep from getting deployed to a war zone.
2. More often than naught, neighbors who tell you to watch out for police have gotten several tickets for infractions themselves. Take it with a grain of salt.
3. Yes, traffic enforcement is a part of the job. However, it is the most visible to the public. How often is it that a member of the public, such as yourself, will take notice of an officer sitting in an unmarked car for 15 hours straight waiting for a suspect to appear? Waiting for 3 hours to get a warrant signed because the judge is out playing golf? Waiting through the lines a Central Booking to get the guy he just arrested off of the streets? The public notices traffic enforcement because that is when you see the pretty blue and red lights flashing, and that causes everyone to rubberneck and make casual conversation in the car while you pass about “why he got pulled over”. Since you are commenting the way you are, my guess is that you are worse than most.
4. Police Officers get days off, too. Just because they are posting here does not necessarily mean that they have their butts in an office, reading newsgroups and replying to ignorant idiots like you. No, more than likely they are sitting at the end of a street because there have been numerous complaints from residents like you about the garbage man speeding through the neighborhood.
5. Don’t comment with your idiotic ideas about policing unless you have been there. Much like your actions in the military, law enforcement is closely scrutinized by the “all knowing public”. With shows like CSI, Blue Bloods, Cops, etc…everyone in America became an instant graduate of both law school, and every police academy in the country.
For the record, traffic enforcement is an absolutely great way to catch the baddest of bad guys. Several years ago, State Trooper on 95 North, near the Exit for 24 pulled over a car for speeding and found 2 dead bodies in the trunk. Where was the community on that one? Guess they were sitting on their butts reading and responding?
How many warrants are served each day during routine traffic stops?
How many stolen vehicles are recovered each year from routine traffic stops?
How many lives are saved because an officer took the time to stop the 16 year old driving 80 mph in the rain? Mind you, this officer is standing on the side of I-95 during rush hour, in the rain, risking his very own life…
Then again, if that happened to you, you are probably the type of guy who would call the Barracks and bitch because a cop yelled at your son for exceeding the speed limit.
Before you comment back…yes, I have been active Army & yes, I have been deployed to war zones. I am also an active law enforcement officer, so I am not making this stuff up because I watched an episode of Women Cops of Broward County last night.
Edgewood Resident. says
I see you post all the time, so it must have been a slow day in the patrol car that you have time to write all of that stuff. Quite a few of your BCPD friends were indicted from this area for the towing scandal among other corrupt things going on in the BCPD. I am sure your just another shining example. Here is an idea, maybe you should get to work. I sure wish you and your friends had more time to deal with the gang bangers down here instead of arguing with people on-line 24/7.
CrazyHorse says
The towing thing was in the city (BPD), not Baltimore County (BCPD).
Also, not very fair to compare a few bad apples to the whole bunch. Living in Edgewood you should know all about that, I mean would it be fair to assume that since you live there that you are at home waiting on your welfare check while washing your Escalade and typing your reply on a smartphone that was stolen? No.
dumb says
Take a look at the blotter, once people stop calling the police for dumb shit such as “truck cut me off in wawa parking lot” calling the police about hunters, and the extreme paranoia in this county “suspicious” person walking down the street, maybe they can get back to actual law enforcement.
Kharn says
The reported suspicious people are also the most likely perpetrators for burglaries. Neighbors know each other, when they see someone that does not belong and is acting odd, calling the police can save the community from the pain of a neighbor’s house being robbed. Even if the cops do not find the person before they find a soft target and commit a crime, they’ll have the description provided by the caller so they have somewhere to start on a suspect.
ALEX R says
You have to be either desperate or dumb to rob a place that has cameras everywhere. These two yokels are probably both. They will probably get caught and then be sentenced to time in jail but with most of it suspended so the $2000 might actually be worth the chance they took.
Crimestopper says
Dumb–they don’t actually really investigate any of that stuff. Most of the petty crime reports are filed on line or on the phone without an officer even having to come out to a business or residence. Folks just need a police report number for their insurance company. The police are not going to solve your stolen bicycle crime unless you engraved your name and number on it and it shows up later as part of a larger theft ring. The real problem is priorities. If you talk to most officers on the street, they will tell you that they would much rather do real police work instead of baby sitting the driving habits of soccer moms. Many jursidictions that take crime seriously have a policy of enforcing traffic laws if you see it while you are investigating or taking some preventative action to try and stop crime. In this county, it is the main focus of police work to write paper all day and generate revenue. All of the officers appraisal scoring is geared to generating paper. You want to stop bank robberies , instead of a toroper sitting on 924 at Laurel Valley all day writing tickets, have him or her stop by every bank and business along 924 in an afternoon (even just driving through the parking lot) and the criminals will go somewhere else. That is what they do in Baltimore City and thats why bank robberies are down there but way up in the suburbs. You can believe that the banks in the city have the same amount of money as the ones in the suburbs. Now we can just wait for all of the officer on their county or state issued lap tops in the patrol cars to start responding to this on our dime.
Huh? says
How difficult can solving this crime be? There is a tag on the back of the car, there is an AVI sticker on the rear A pillar, clear view of their faces, it doesn’t get any easier than this. I have seen the high def images in McD’s. they use on their closed circuit system. Barney Fife could solve this one.
AndyRooney'sFerociousEyeBrows says
You guys (general public) can’t even agree on what we should be doing. Some people recognize that our being in their neighborhood may very well prevent property crimes from occurring there and that routine traffic stops often result in serious offenders being arrested. It amazes me that people don’t look over their electrician or plumber’s shoulder and tell them how to do their job but everyone thinks they are an expert on law enforcement. The way we do our job is a direct result of years and years of studies on law enforcement as well as responses to public request. If we are sitting at the end of your street, that is not a random assignment, that is the result of a request made by the public we serve or a need demonstrated by crime statistics. The fact that you have limited obvervations of patrol officers and vast experience with watching staged police shows (Alaskan Troopers) or law shows that are complete B.S. does not make you qualified to direct a law enforcement agency. As far as our time on the dagger, time on the computer, and your tax money is concerned…I protect your ass between 50-60 hours a week which leaves me 108-118 hours to do whatever I please within the confines of the law.
Engineer by Day says
Andy, are you that full of yourself. Years and years of studies. You are funny. Andy, let us just be honest with the people. Your job is driven directed anything you want to call it by politics. It is the political will of the governor passed down to the superintendent of msp. sheriff passed down to the field, mayors of towns passed down to police chiefs, just get serious.
You probably don’t know this but do you know that speed limits are only ever set for two reasons and only two, thats it. One is safety and two is political reasons (thats code for $$$$$). Every road has a road designed safe speed. Would it surprise you to know that the safe design speed of I-95 north of Baltimore is 85 mph. But for political reasons, the speed is set at 65 mph. Would it suprise you to know that accidents and highway deaths actually went down, when the speed went from 55 to 65 because the variance in speed closed with the increase. If they just bumped it up to 70 north of white marsh , it would close even more and be the optimal speed for the design capabilities and capacity.
Do you ever wonder why on Rt 24, the speed limit is 55 and yet on 895 south of Baltimore, a limited access highway with no exit or entrance ramps, the speed is only 50 even though its safe design speed is 65. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MD doesn’t quite follow the rest of the US on setting speeds for safety reasons, we set them for political reasons. Oh gee I wasn’t supposed to say that. Along with other northeast states, its all about $$$$$$$$$$$. When a new road is built such as Rt 100, the safe speed recommended by the traffic engineers is 65. Cant have that cause there would be no $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
You think I am kidding do some research. A former engineer executive at SHA caught a lot of hot water when he let the cat out of the bag on all of this in a story in the Baltimore paper. Funny he waited till retirement, smart move. So please, save us from your full of yourself, know whats best for everyone attitude. Perhaps focus your energy on solving some real crime like the McD’s story above.
Personally I am not at all confused on what you should do with your time. I will take a crime free environment any day of the week over all of your 42 in a 30 tickets for a road with the 30 mph politically set speed limit that no one lives on and there is no pedestrian traffic. The engineer and the MUTCD probably recomended a 40 mph speed limit on that road. Solve that McD’s crime.
AndyRooneysFerociousEyeBrows says
Thank you for pretending to respond to my statements so that you could get all of that off of your chest. The years and years of research I speak of is the trial and error of enforcement methods used by law enforcement as long as man has lived in a civilized manner. Also, the use of CompStat as created by NYPD and studied by law enforcement around the country, eventually being adopted here. To answer your question, yes I was well aware that engineers say a safe operating speed and then the state sets the speed limit much lower. Sounds like your issue is with the executive branch of government which I say proudly that I am not a part of. My post had more to do with the positioning of units around the county and the use of our time but you really wanted an opportunity to talk about your profession (engineering) in the limited way it interacts with mine. I would estimate that we receive between 20-30 emails a day from homeowners, parents of school age children, business owners, and other concerned citizens offering up their driveway or property to please come and pull over speeders. So not everyone shares your obvious hatred toward police resources being used for traffic enforcement. To suggest that all of these officers should be back at the precinct investigating crimes would only come from someone who has not had to think about the big picture. These officers need to be spread out and in a position to respond to routine calls for service and emergencies in a timely manner. If all of our officers were at Northern Precinct sifting through case files, what do you think would happen to the homeowner in North Harford calling about an intruder in their home? Maybe it would help if there was an officer in that area patrolling or conducting traffic enforcement to be able to quickly respond, and maybe thats why we do things the way we do.
AndyRooneysFerociousEyeBrows says
I meant to say legislative not executive*
Engineer by Day says
The big picture is real simple, someone driving 12 miles over a politically set speed limit of 30 mph that should be 40mph is really no threat to my life. I have the accident stats at my disposal to prove it. All of the increasing crime going on in this County right now including my own neighborhood is a threat to the safety and security of me and my neighbors. I read another story in here a person posted that at the exact time a bank was being robbed on 924, 2 troopers were running radar a mile down 924. I know the spot. No one lives along the road on that stretch of 924, aboslutely no one. There are no issues with the roadway, no history of fatals, nothing. So there is no possible way any neighbor is calling you up about speeders between wheel road and laurel valley. Its a bunch of crap. it is just a good location where the speed is set too low and you people can hide to quickly generate your quota numbers for the month. No lives are being saved at that location, nothing regarding public safety is being improved by their actions. It is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Compustat, give me a break. Its just a means to justify your existance and so you can set goals for officers based on numbers and nothing else. It is actually a “political” process that is being forced on you by the executive branch.
It will never replace information gained by getting your rear end out of the patrol car and talking to people. And that really is the problem. Far to much time wasted playing on the computers and no old school foot work. Kind of how you spend your day, on here.
And trust me the homeowner in north harford with the intruder, I have a feeling he has the necesary resources to deal with the problem himself. At the end of the day you are right it angers me that the bulk of police resources are wasted generating revenue and not aggresively working towards pushing crime out of the County. You must be part of the higher up problem Andy, because the front line folks tell me they would rather be doing something else besides making money for you.
Engineer by Day says
p.s…probably still haven’t solved the crime story above yet, have ya?
AndyRooneysFerociousEyeBrows says
You’ll never get it, Engineer by Day and Disgruntled Guy that Probably Got a Ticket and Is Pissed About It Pretending To Know a Little About Law Enforcement by night. I can’t speak to what the State Troopers are doing, there are so few of them and the area in which they respond to calls so tiny that in Harford County to me they are almost nonexistant. I’m am not a member of command staff, just an intelligent DFC that incorrectly thought I might see a little appreciation for the work I do for the public. The truth is person A asks for us to run radar in their driveway, person B wants us to break up a fight with her husband for the 53rd time, and person EBD wants to be a critic of everything we do. Writing speeding tickets is not what YOU want us to do, but it is something that we hear about constantly from the public so it is something we have to do. We have officers investigating this robbery and others, I’m not one of them. Then we also have officers that are out there making traffic stops, confiscating firearms found in the process, and locking up those with active warrants possibly preventing the next robbery. The unfortunate part is there is no statistic to show how many people chose not to drive under the influence or carry out a crime because there is a constant threat of being pulled over rather than just a risk of getting caught in the commission of the major crime.
Engineer by Day says
Yea Andy, thats always your fall back position must be some guy with a ticket. No Andy been driving for almost 40 years, no tickets, no parking tickets, no speed camera tickets no red light tickets, no arrest so sorry to disappoint you and ruin your wasted theory. Not everyone is bad and not everyone is some maniac behind the wheel. I know that is the position you come from everyday. One thing I have learned is that the good cops are out doing their jobs and the bad ones are on here all day insulting people.
I am just a person who grew up in this county and has seen the violence grow tremendously and watched politicians and sheriffs more worried about their next election then doing whats right.
At least you confirmed what everyone says that there are very few troopers working on the road, maybe less than 5 and they are all seem to be involved in some revenue enhancement. Everytime I see them raising $$$$$ they are always in a pack of 2-3, so I guess that is the whole shift.
I guess what we need is some leadership with some balls that says our number one priority is going to be crime and drive criminals out of the County. I hate to admit it but in some jurisdictions mean as it is that is a strategy to drive crime into the next jurisdiction. I’d tell those people that I have people dying in Edgewood and I need to put the resources where the issues are located. That takes leadership that is not worried about the next election. Now if in the process of that crime priority we see some driver doing something stupid we will deal with it. Having you people sitting around all day writing tickets for poitical purposes is just ridiculous.
And there are no statistics on how many people rob banks and stores because they know the police are so preoccupied with revenue raising activities. I say post all of the speed limits based on safe and prudent speeds, less people will speed and you all will have to find something else to do with your time. It is a fact supported by real highway studies that properly placed speed limits reduce speeding. Yea I know hard to believe but true. They also advocate increasing yellow light signal times to reduce red light collisions. In Maryland, we lowered them 1/2 to 1 second in order to shorten the yellow to get more $$$$$.
You can fill these pages on your WORK time with anything you want, but smart people in this area know your number one mission everyday is $$$$$$$$$$. You keep up the good work because the more $$$ you raise is the less tax money I have to pay.
St8Trooper says
Mr. Engineer,
While I can certainly see your viewpoint that financial gain and political motives are abound in the decision making with regards to “public safety” in this great state, I also don’t think that you see the bigger picture. I do, however, thank you for your last comment where you agree that through the revenue of citations issued by Maryland Law Enforcement Agencies, it is indeed less taxes that you have to pay as a citizen of the State.
A few things, just to bring another side into this conversation. First, I am judging by your tone that you think that all police officer’s are uneducated fools who have no insight into any type of engineering, mathematics, science or other such academic topics. I will tell you that many of the State Troopers, and senior Police Officers and Deputy Sheriff’s throughout not only Maryland, but the country, are well versed in engineering, advanced mathematics, forensic sciences, human behavior, etc…, etc…, etc… Given that most of these “gifted” personnel go through years of training and are assigned to Crash Teams to investigate traffic accidents, forensic scientists to pour through mounds of evidence…you’ve seen the TV shows, I am sure that you are smart enough to figure out the rest. Nothing political about that.
Next, while your point regarding the safe operating speeds that the physical roadways can support, I don’t believe that you are taking into account the factors regarding an increase in vehicle speed leads to an increase in traffic accidents. While there are drivers out there who can navigate our roadways at higher speeds, in a safe manner, it is the one person that can lead to havoc. One point you are failing to consider is the fact that higher vehicular speeds in collisions leads to a higher number of fatalities, and greater property damage (to both State and personal property). Are you an engineer that can speak to the design of motor vehicles and their safe operating speeds, or take into account the 16 year old provisional driver who is taking his first solo drive down the I-95 corridor during rush hour traffic? Also, you fail to include the dynamics of the materials in the construction of motor vehicles. Suppose that is bound by politics as well. I would say that the roadways speed limits are at a good setting, some could be a bit lower, but with a record 31 traffic deaths on Harford roadways in 2012, where more than 80% were contributed to advanced speed, I think it best to leave speed limit talks out of a robbery discussion, or politics in your case.
But, since you went there…let’s chat about the role of police agencies in Maryland. Each agency has their own unique operating guidelines, and their own responsibilities in their area of exclusive jurisdiction. Take into account Harford County, the State Police are 95% highway patrol, and 5% your typical police agency. This 5%, mind you, is only after the HarCo Sheriff and the State Police reach a mutual agreement (yes, a legal contract) as to what the State Police is permitted to do while enforcing law in these areas (outside of your “revenue generation”). This, is political. The MD Transportation Authority Police have pretty much ZERO enforcement ability in any type of residential or commercial area. They are, for the most part, dedicated to the tunnels and bridges of Maryland; several miles of major roadways around those areas; as well as the BWI Airport and parts of the MD Park Trail System. The Maryland State Police, for the most part, are highway / roadway patrol and other specific criminal activities. This includes the life-saving activities of the Maryland State Police Aviation Unit that not only supplies life-saving medevac services to a tri-state area, but also assist local law enforcement in tracking activities. Enough of history, now onto some specific enforcement activity. This, is political.
Yes, it is true what a person stated above in that traffic enforcement is the most visible to the public, and therefore is the most commented on. Heaven forbid you see a Trooper get something to eat during the day (I assume that you get a lunch break during your workday, right?) All you see is the Trooper in the cruiser just waiting to pull someone over and ruin their day. Far from the fact. A great many Troopers I know and work with often get their food to go, and pull over to the side of the road to eat in plain view of everyone on the roadway. Why? Well, we are near the radio to be readily available to answer calls for assistance (from people like you); we are in PLAIN VIEW of the public. While we may be eating and not paying attention to your actual vehicle speed, the fact is that we are doing some type of enforcement. When you are passing a marked unit on the side of the road, 99% of drivers will check their speed and adjust to the posted speed limit. How does politics play into that? They will flash their lights to alert oncoming traffic to the presence of a marked patrol vehicle up ahead, forcing that person to slow down to a reasonable speed. I ask you, is something like that worth it if we save just one life? If we make that one driver check him / herself to slow down and avoid a ticket, and be alert to the guy running along the shoulder of the road…where because of the presence of the Trooper you stopped texting while driving and avoided drifting over and crushing the runner under the tires of your car? Or am I sitting there, not to grab a much needed bite to eat, but because it is politically motivated? I think it is highly worth it…one life at a time. Seeing as how 31 people died in HarCo last year, I am doing anything in my power to bring that number down – death on roadways is senseless and ruins many lives. So I will keep doing my job, and “generating revenue”, until engineers like yourself can get off of the political high-horse and figure out a way to construct roads out of feathers so that when people crash, their skulls don’t shatter like an egg because they were exceeding the “safe” speed limit of the roadway (or windshield for that matter).
As far as politics, the Sheriff of Harford County is an elected position. Perhaps if you put such an active voice into your community rather than into your replies here, perhaps you can affect some real change.
As for the revenue generation, you know what…don’t blame me. I voted against Obama!
HCC Regular says
Must be a slow night out there boys. So has anyone solved the McDonald’s robbery yet?
Engineer by Day says
Wow, I have to agree with HCC. You folks have way too much time on your hands in those patrol cars to work on that thing all night. Really not sure what your main point was as you rambled about everything from what police agencies to what you eat to who you voted for in the last election. Wierd.
Speed limits in this state are set for political reasons to generate revenue. It is a irrifutable fact. In states where they are set for safety reasons, they have less fatalities and accidents. I get a reminder of this when I attend conferences with folks from other states. I am not going to give you a full blown engineering lesson, so I’ll just dumb it down to this example. When a speed is set correctly based on a vaiety of factors and not political, then the majority of the folks are doing the same speed. The lower the variance, the less potential for accidents. Its a bell curve. If 85-90% of the cars are travelling at or near the speed limit, then you have a good process. If 85% of the cars are going over the speed limit, you have a problem. I know of a traffic study where the speed set at 30 and should have been 40. Practically everyone 95% plus is going over 30 mph. You guys sit there 24/7 writing tickets. Its a shame. Personally, I would let those people go and solve the McDonalds robbery.
I applaud your ambition that you think you can impact highway deaths in the county but the reality is you can not. Most of the deaths are based on some combination of poor road design, congestion and inattentive drivers. And you can thow in some alcohol related deaths too that you could pull those folks over I give you that. Do you ever wonder why there are so many deaths on 543 and none on 24 in the same n-s stretch? I know why, you think about it some.
Here is a highway safety fact that you might not be aware. Let me say upfront that texting should never be done while driving, period even though the police do it all the time. I would never do it even when I legally could. Every state that has banned it has seen a spike in inattentive driving accidents and fatalities. When it was legal, kids held phones above the dashboard. When it became against the law, now they do it in their laps which is really bad. Again, texting and driving is wrong.
I find my active voice in the community often falls on deaf ears if it goes against the political agenda. But thats ok as I find hope in looking at states that do it right and see and revel in the poistive results. Just too bad no one wants to do it right here.
I’m done. Have a nice day.
AndyRooneysFerociousEyeBrows says
Your argument often falls not on deaf ears but on the ears of those that quickly realize that you don’t know what you are talking about. Specifically talking about he McDonalds robbery, the suspect is probably someone not from the area and therefore won’t be identified by anyone viewing the local news. Also, he probably doesn’t hang out with good professional people that would quickly recognize him and turn him in. More than likely, the only people that know him well enough to identify him have no interest in speaking to the police. As far as the plates, if businesses spent the money to get cameras that were clearer then we wouldn’t have to post this horrible picture to the public. They should talk to the people at Target, their digital recording system with PTZ (pan-tilt-zoom) camera system is amazing but for some reason even other multi-national billion dollar corporations don’t want to kick out the extra hundred. That is why this robbery and many others will go unsolved. Engineer, your strategy is good: keep hammering the one point that you actually have a clue about. We get that you know alot about road speed limits and design, however you know nothing about why our units are stationed where they are. This morning I read 21 requests for stationary radar and routine patrol requests for varying reasons. Your issue with speed limits must be taken up with your legislators and if you don’t like us writing tickets near your street you should take that up with whichever one of your neighbors asked us to be there.
HCC Regular says
Working real hard in the office Andrew? Yea thats the spirit Andrew, admit defeat. “Huh” (up top) wrote that there is an AVI sticker on the car. Thats called a clue. You will never understand “engineer’s” point. You are more worried about the 21 radar requests to help the sheriff get reelected, than catching a bnk robber. We get it Andrew. Keep up the good work.
BCPD says
WOW! How did this go from catching a robbery suspect, to the public caring about what the police do all day, to roadway construction and design, to belittling a trooper who offered a no-nonsense reponse to all of the other “fluff” everyone put out there.
Engineer – I don’t see where anyone was disagreeing with you? You want to make roads safer through better construction, more science put into speed-zones, etc. We are after the same thing. Perhaps less deaths on the roadways would lead to more officers being able to do some preventative enforcement, and perhaps catch the numbskull who robbed either the bank, the McD’s, the house…whatever.
The “rambling” that you so eloquently pointed out, was merely offering an inside view into what you claim as “laziness” on the part of law enforcement agencies. I guess perhaps you are one of those people that just likes things your way, and any other view is not worth hearing.
Onto your point about speed limits in this state. You mentioned something about facts? From where? Nothing I have read in the State Guidelines mentioned anything about politics being involved in the setting of speed limits, in fact the police play a very small part in that – thanks to the grumpy men running the SHA (probably to justify their jobs). However, I will agree that something is at hand in this, and it certainly is not the police or engineers (yes, I agree with you). Interstate 95 from the Newark Toll Plaza south of Exit 1 at DE 896 to the Maryland State line is 55 mph. The speed limit goes up to 65 mph at the Maryland line. The stretch of roadway between Exit 109 at MD 279 and prior to Exit 1 at DE 896 before the Newark Toll Plaza are identical roadways…you may be onto something. Have you contacted the media? You have a lot to say, and are obviously very passionate, perhaps 60 Minutes would love to tell your story.
As long as we are on that subject, you mentioned that other states (where they are set higher for safety, which makes no sense whatsoever)…since you are so well versed, I assume that you know that the highest number of traffic fatalities occur in California and Texas, right? The states with some of the higher speed limits, right? That, my friend, is a fact. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration calculates fatality rates by determining how many fatalities occur for every 100,000 miles driven. Massachusetts and Rhode Island have the lowest incident rates. Hawaii and Pennsylvania were the median, with the highest being Texas, Louisiana and Montana. Montana…Montana…oh yeah, where the safe driving speed limit is posted as “Reasonable and Prudent”. Hmmm, maybe there is nothing to that “Speed Kills” moniker, I mean the roads can handle that type of speed, can’t they? According to you, they can. Oh wait, but Texas has the highest speed limit in the U.S., and they were the lowe…wait, nope…they were one of the highest. Hmmm, those are facts…yet you say the roads are safer at higher speeds?
As for Maryland, they fell BELOW the median, so obviously something is working better than in other states. Speaking of Maryland Traffic Law, while I agree that texting and driving is wrong and dangerous, I will point out that Emergency Personnel are exempt. This includes talking on phones while driving as well. Why? Don’t know, but we are. Some choose to do it, but then again how is it different from being able to safely pursue someone at 90+ MPH, while handling a radio, lights and siren all at the same time? Some agencies are moving away from radios altogether, and are moving towards a secure type of BlackBerry device. Perhaps that is what you are talking about when you mentioned texting and driving by the police? Mobile Terminals are being replaced by wireless, handheld devices. Just something to think about as you sit there and snipe comments at others.
“I find my active voice in the community often falls on deaf ears if it goes against the political agenda.” Isn’t it funny how that works? Many of us feel the same way. However, you could move to one of those states that do it right? That would leave you with nowhere to go with these arguments, correct? Why not, apparently it would make you happier.
As for the snide, personal attacks against all of the law enforcement officers that post here…well, that is your right. It is your right to say that we are lazy, that we do nothing but write tickets all day, and to continually harp on the fact that the guy has not been caught yet. Well, that is your right and I hope you have fun doing it behind your citation-funded job in the State Highway Administration. Without the revenue generating activities of these police officers, you wouldn’t have all that money to go out and spend on “expense account” lunches to talk about roadway construction, or while you attend these conferences in other states. Conferences about concrete and painted roadways, must be riveting.
What you could do, however, is learn some grammar and spelling. If you are going to poke fun at people, the least you could do is be proper about it! Would come off better, and make you look like less of an imbecile!
WAIT!!! Maybe that is why the legislation is so f-ed up, you know the ones you keep whining about! You probably helped write them, and misspelled half of the words! HAHAHAHA! Since you dumbed your “roadway engineering” down by pulling the words straight from the internet, let me show you how dumbed-down your rant really was:
Wierd = weird
irrifutable = irrefutable
vaiety = variety
Its = It’s
where the speed set at 30 = where the speed was set at 30 (is that what you meant?)
Practically everyone 95% plus … = Practically everyone, 95% or more, …
poistive = positive
…and this is just off of your most recent rant alone. Thanks for the engineering lesson, while you begin your drive home and remain disgruntled at the fact that some Senator won’t return your calls about raising the speed limit, I’ll be out tonight scraping some kid off the roadway for inattentive driving.
As for HCC, get a clue, dude.
HCC Regular says
Must be tough to through your entire day with all that rage and hostility. You must have spent your whole afternoon sitting in your car angrily typing on the key board. Get a life pal.
Blame to other guy! says
My b@lls really itch… So why dont all you “know it all’s” come find the spot for me